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James Holmes Massacre First Lawsuit (Man Sues Over "Dark Knight" Shooting)
TMZ.com ^ | 7-24-12 | unknown

Posted on 07/25/2012 9:56:27 PM PDT by Houmatt

One of the victims in the James Holmes mass murder spree has lawyered up and plans to file a lawsuit ... because he feels the theater dropped the ball in a very fatal way.

Torrence Brown, Jr. was in Century 16 Theater when Holmes let loose. One of Brown's best friends, A.J. Boik, was shot in the chest and died. Brown, who was not physically injured, claims to now suffer from extreme trauma.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: holmes; jamesholmes; lawsuit
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To: Cyber Liberty
What theatre chain doesn't alarm the emergency exits?

My local Cinema, Carmike, encourages people to use the exit doors when leaving the movie instead of going back into the lobby..

61 posted on 07/26/2012 5:01:42 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (Bigamy: Having at least one wife too many. Monogamy: Definitely having one wife too many.)
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To: mylife

How did Holmes get through the emergency door?


The critical function of an emergency door is to allow people to exit the theater in an emergency. It also should prevent people from getting in, but that is not the primary reason for its existence.

I can just imagine all sorts of measures being taken to strengthen the emergency door against unauthorized entry. And, next time there’s a fire, they’ll find they did their job too well when people can’t get out.


62 posted on 07/26/2012 5:06:34 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Ingtar; mylife; HiTech RedNeck

The thought was that Holmes bought a ticket. Parked his car right out back. Not far from the door. During the beginning of the movie. He faked taking a phone call. Walked out. Got dressed. Got his weapons and came back in and started the attack. No where have I read that someone came back in and sat down and then the shooter came. I definitely have not seen that someone knocked on the door.

Evidence suggests Holmes acted alone.


63 posted on 07/26/2012 5:23:22 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: DoughtyOne; agere_contra

I see your point. I think our justice system lacks common sense. Our country is so far from personal responsibility that it is sickening.

The conservative approach would be that it is my responsibility to provide for my families safety in the theater. They SHOULD NOT be held accountable for my safety (although I agree with you that a judge would wrongly, probably say they did).

Now if that theater banned guns, then they ban my personal responsibility to protect my family. In which case, they are responsible. Which IMO would be a correct assumption and a judge should rule towards that.

So yeah. In both cases the judge would probably rule against the business/theater. One justly, the other not.


64 posted on 07/26/2012 5:33:47 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: justice14
"Now if that theater banned guns, then they ban my personal responsibility to protect my family. In which case, they are responsible. Which IMO would be a correct assumption and a judge should rule towards that."

The bolded sentence stuck a thought. If it were legal(or a law) for every US citizen to carry a gun and that theater banned the carrying of guns on its premises, then they would be responsible for your protection.

Since this country is anti guns, the theater was right in banning guns, they obeyed the law of the land.

No one forced any of those people to go to this movie, at midnight. They were there of their own free will.

Gun free zones have been around for a while and stuff still happens. Time to test guns required zones.

As to the stupid lawsuit, dude went to see a violent movie. He got his money's worth. He should be thanking the theater for this unique experience.

65 posted on 07/26/2012 5:58:06 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
Since this country is anti guns, the theater was right in banning guns, they obeyed the law of the land.

This country isn't "anti-guns". So that doesn't make the theater "right" in banning those guns.

Nobody forced someone to go to that movie, but the Theater did "force" the movie goers to disarm themselves.

As to the stupid lawsuit, dude went to see a violent movie. He got his money's worth. He should be thanking the theater for this unique experience.

That was uncalled for and non logical.

Think of it this way. A theater or concert can be loud. Say the theater or concert bans earplugs. Isn't the theater, in turn, saying that your hearing won't be affected? Shouldn't you be able to take personal responsibilty and either take ear plugs or not? Whether that requires a hearing loss warning for people to realize that they are responsible for their hearing or not, so be it. But that business should not ban a choice for personal responsibilty.

66 posted on 07/26/2012 6:15:07 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: justice14

Did Holmes do something to keep the door ajar, should then be asked. Taking a true phone call might involve going to the lobby or maybe the bathroom, but leaving the area controlled by the box office seems a bit much. If Holmes could shut the door completely and come back, the door was then not secure and anybody could walk in.


67 posted on 07/26/2012 6:37:44 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

you funny rain drop you


68 posted on 07/26/2012 6:38:57 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: justice14

of course this country is anti gun. You don’t see everyone carrying a gun do you? A gun free zone is anti gun. The moment you walk into someone’s property, you abide by their laws. You still have a choice where to go on their property or not.

If the dude went to see snow white and the seven dwarfs, I would understanding him being traumatized. He went to see a violent movie, and he got it. He got his dose of adrenaline rush.

If a theater bans ear plugs, then don’t go to that theater. Simple.
If a theater bans guns, then don’t go to that theater.
Simple.


69 posted on 07/26/2012 6:44:42 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I thought I read that witnesses said he ‘propped’ the door open. Now whether that mean just sticking an object so it doesn’t close or taping the latch so it doesn’t latch, Idk. Witnesses did claim that the door wasn’t shut completely though.


70 posted on 07/26/2012 6:45:39 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: Houmatt

So was the theater a “gun-free zone” or not? If it was, then sue the theater for taking on the responsibility for making you safe and failing. If you had your gun you could have protected yourself.


71 posted on 07/26/2012 6:45:45 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Boiling tea makes it stronger. I'm a Tea Party Patriot...and I AM BOILING!!!)
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To: Houmatt

So was the theater a “gun-free zone” or not? If it was, then sue the theater for taking on the responsibility for making you safe and failing. If you had your gun you could have protected yourself.


72 posted on 07/26/2012 6:45:57 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Boiling tea makes it stronger. I'm a Tea Party Patriot...and I AM BOILING!!!)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

You can carry guns in more places than you can not. There are more people that are fine with guns, than not. Yeah... we are anti-gun alright.

Your comments about the movie they chose to see is very lacking. Grow up.


73 posted on 07/26/2012 7:00:50 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: Houmatt
Everyone that was injured (and the relatives of those killed) need to sue the theater for failure to provide protection to them that was implicit in the theater's "no guns" policy. Make it expensive to institute such insane policies, and they'll quickly go away.

Take away my means to defend myself, and you'd damn well better have the means to do so yourself.

74 posted on 07/26/2012 7:04:23 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Houmatt
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75 posted on 07/26/2012 7:19:29 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: justice14

Thanks Justice14. We’re on the same page.


76 posted on 07/26/2012 7:21:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: justice14

Thanks Justice14. We’re on the same page.


77 posted on 07/26/2012 7:21:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: presently no screen name
"It MOST certainly did! He couldn't come through the front door with that dress and gear! "

OH yeah ? who was there to stop him ? maybe the popcorn clerk ? or the usher ? would an armed guard with a 9mm handgun help if he entered through the front firing a semi auto AR15 ?....if he crashed an airplane or wheelloader tractor through the front door they could have yelled "stop!"....are you suggesting we have teams of combat ready special forces at all public venues ?

sounds reasonable in Lawyer Bizarro world

78 posted on 07/26/2012 10:48:02 AM PDT by KTM rider
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