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Drug dog finds nothing in car at traffic stop, but sniffs out pot [& illegal alien] at nearby house
Arizona Daily Star ^ | July 22, 2012 | Jamar Younger

Posted on 07/24/2012 9:08:39 AM PDT by kevcol

Authorities arrested the suspects late Thursday after finding 25 bales of marijuana, weighing more than 430 pounds, inside a shed at an Ajo home. Ajo is about 100 miles west of Tucson.

The discovery came after a deputy made a traffic stop in front of the home. The deputy smelled marijuana in the car, reportedly driven by Womack, and called for additional deputies and a drug-sniffing dog.

The dog did not smell drugs in the car but alerted deputies to the fence line of a nearby house.

Deputies eventually searched a shed at the home and found the marijuana, along with an illegal immigrant identified as Lopez-Zavala.

(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; cannabis; drugs; drugwar; fourthamendment; marijuana; oops; pima; potheads; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; workingdogs; wosd
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To: RowdyFFC

You have gangs because drugs are illegal and in high demand and are therefore very profitable. Take away the excess profits by decriminalizing drugs and the gangs have no incentive to deal in drugs. What we have today is not much different than Prohibition.


21 posted on 07/24/2012 10:26:42 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: RowdyFFC
Yeah, sure, un huh, we want to legalize drugs and let the cartels fighting over turf

No, legalization will open the door to legal competition and send profits plummeting, thus effectively putting an end to drug cartels - just as happened to rumrunners when we wisely ended Prohibition of the drug alcohol.

22 posted on 07/24/2012 10:27:28 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: RowdyFFC

You’re right. History shows that that’s exactly what would happen. Look at the bloody turf wars we have today between Miller and Coors and between Jack Daniels and Jim Beam. Things were much better when alcohol was illegal and gangsters like Al Capone and Joe Kennedy controlled the sale of that intoxicant.


23 posted on 07/24/2012 10:39:46 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

The only reason that MJ is not legal is that the gubment does not have the means to fully control it. It is called weed for a reason. I personally think that it does have some medical viability, all be it abused by many. On the surface, I don’t see the difference between MJ and tobacco. I say legalize it, tax the crap out of it - just like cigs and booze. I still won’t touch it, legal or not.


24 posted on 07/24/2012 10:46:33 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Obama is like Ron Burgundy - he will read ANYTHING that is on the teleprompter)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
Beat me by 46 seconds. :-(
25 posted on 07/24/2012 10:52:52 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: kevcol

Hmmm...sounds like a setup. You have information about drug dealing at a location, but not enough for a warrant. So you do a bait car style fake traffic stop at the location, which puts your drug dog in proximity, which confirms the suspicion. Question is, do you now have to get a warrant? Suppose the judge on duty is a liberal?

Questions, questions...if you walk your drug dog down Main Street and he alerts on a passerby, do you have to get a warrant for that?


26 posted on 07/24/2012 10:54:07 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed
You always have to get a warrant - an alert may be probable cause, but it is not in and of itself an exigent circumstance.
27 posted on 07/24/2012 10:56:11 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: kevcol

WHere did you find that photo? TOO FUNNY...


28 posted on 07/24/2012 12:37:30 PM PDT by Fawn (DEAR JESUS....PLEASE LET OBAMA LOSE.....AMEN.)
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To: RowdyFFC
Yeah, sure, un huh, we want to legalize drugs and let the cartels fighting over turf, and running free in the US so we can have MORE zoned out zombies escaping reality in altered states of mind while munching on Doritos. PERFECT!

Yup, that's right, just like the liquor mobs and speakeasies do with alcohol - oops, I guess that was during Prohibition...

29 posted on 07/24/2012 3:09:51 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: jimt
Yeah, sure, un huh, we want to legalize drugs and let the cartels fighting over turf, and running free in the US

Yup, that's right, just like the liquor mobs and speakeasies do with alcohol - oops, I guess that was during Prohibition...

You're late to the party, jim. ;-D

30 posted on 07/24/2012 3:29:08 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: jimt

Of course we’re going to discount all the drunk drivers that get in their cars and kill people while we slap them on the wrist. And we all want our children’s faces chewed off by some idiot high on pot instead of bath salts, or some pot smoking Occupier who furthered his altered state of mind with 100 mg of vicodin before he set out on his mission.

But yeah, let’s just legalize every damned thing and the world would just be so much better while we lay back stoned and happy and not having to face reality. OK, I’m with you guys. You’ve convinced me!


31 posted on 07/25/2012 6:07:19 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC
Of course we’re going to discount all the drunk drivers that get in their cars and kill people while we slap them on the wrist.

So what's the answer to that - return to Prohibition?

And we all want our children’s faces chewed off by some idiot high on pot

Please post one single instance of this actually occurring. We'll wait - but we won't hold our breaths.

32 posted on 07/26/2012 9:54:07 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

The cannibalist in Florida was high on pot, not bath salts as originally reported. DUH! DUH! DUH! DUH!


33 posted on 07/26/2012 7:18:51 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC
The cannibalist in Florida was high on pot, not bath salts as originally reported.

'An expert on toxicology testing said marijuana alone wasn't likely to cause behavior as strange as Eugene's.

'"The problem today is that there is an almost an infinite number of chemical substances out there that can trigger unusual behavior," said Dr. Bruce Goldberger, Professor and Director of Toxicology at the University of Florida.

'[...] it's nearly impossible for toxicology testing to keep pace with new formulations of synthetic drugs.

'"There are many of these synthetic drugs that we currently don't have the methodology to test on, and that is not the fault of the toxicology lab. The challenge today for the toxicology lab is to stay on top of these new chemicals and develop methodologies for them but it's very difficult and very expensive." Goldberger said. "There is no one test or combination of tests that can detect every possible substance out there."'

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57462569-504083/rudy-eugenes-toxicology-report-experts-speculate-on-what-caused-face-chewing-attack

Also, if pot caused face-chewing there'd be no faces left - almost 9% of Americans used pot in the previous month: http://www.samhsa.gov/data/NSDUH/2k10ResultsTables/NSDUHTables2010R/HTM/Sect1peTabs1to46.htm#Tab1.1B

DUH! DUH! DUH! DUH!

Does your mommy know you're using her computer?

34 posted on 07/27/2012 8:12:41 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: RowdyFFC
The cannibalist in Florida was high on pot

No, he tested positive for inactive metabolic byproducts of pot - those tests can detect pot use up to 30 days in the past, long after the high is gone.

35 posted on 07/27/2012 8:14:51 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Yes, I know he tested high for pot and most likely something else combined that he bought off the streets, just like the results of the toxicology said. So let’s just legalize it all so we can find out what’s causing it. In case you didn’t notice, there’s more than one case out there.

Ya’ll are starting to sound like Nancy Pelosi....lol


36 posted on 07/28/2012 9:10:53 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC
he tested high for pot

No, as I already explained to you, he tested positive for inactive metabolic byproducts of pot - those tests can detect pot use up to 30 days in the past, long after the high is gone.

So let’s just legalize it all so we can find out what’s causing it.

The effects of pot are studied and understood:

"Of all psychoactive substances, alcohol is the only one whose consumption has been shown to commonly increase aggression. [...] Marijuana and opiates temporarily inhibit violent behavior"
- "Psychoactive Substances and Violence", Department of Justice National Criminal Justice Reference Service

37 posted on 08/06/2012 11:08:02 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

As I’ve already explained to you, the man was shown to be a pothead, and had no traces of bath salts. And even before that I was against legalizing ANY kind of mind-altering drugs, and I haven’t and I’m not going to change my mind, over claims that pot is just some kind of nice high that doesn’t hurt anybody. Because we know the pothead addicts have a real hard time dealing with reality and functioning. And this country doesn’t need any less functioning people. The things that potheads will do to feed their habits are certainly harmful to themselves and others.


38 posted on 08/06/2012 1:46:55 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC
the man was shown to be a pothead,

But not shown to be high at the time of his crime, as you've been claiming.

and had no traces of bath salts.

You admitted he had taken "pot and most likely something else combined that he bought off the streets."

And this country doesn’t need any less functioning people.

So do you support a return to Prohibition of the function-lessening drug alcohol?

The things that potheads will do to feed their habits are certainly harmful to themselves and others.

Only because it's illegal - otherwise they'd feed their habits the same way boozers do.

39 posted on 08/06/2012 2:20:07 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Yada! Yada! Yada! Go pull somebody else’s leg, pothead.


40 posted on 08/07/2012 6:39:11 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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