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What constitutes suspicious activity?
7/9/12 | self

Posted on 07/09/2012 8:53:16 AM PDT by LibWhacker

Hi... Sorry to post this here but something strange just happened and I need some Freeper advice.

I was sitting at the computer about 7:15AM this morning reading FreeRepublic when the doorbell rang. Really? At 7:15AM? Most likely, it could only be one of two things. My friends and relatives wouldn't show up unannounced at that hour. It had to be those skinny religious dudes in white shirts and black ties, or... Our house was being cased!

From our master bedroom, I hear my wife asking, "Who is it?" Don't know, I tell her, pausing, straining to hear. Then the doorbell rings again, this time four or five times, rapidly, impatiently.

Okay, gotta see who it is now. I get up and approach the front door. Through the little frosted pane on the inner door I see a large, very dark shadow, looming, shifting from side to side, with the head almost pressed up against the outer security gate, trying to peer inside. Dammit, I'm an idiot for not grabbing my gun!

I open the door and there standing before me is this skinny black guy with dreadlocks, in his late teens. He's got on a dark stretchy psychedelic t-shirt and both of his arms are inside the shirt, out of view. But you can see they are moving around a lot inside the shirt, wrapped around his thin frame. Like he's simultaneously hugging himself and scratching himself all over at the same time. Holy crap, that's weird right there. I can't see his hands. Does he have a gun?

"Is JAZZmeen home?"

Jasmine? Do I look like I have a daughter named Jasmine? Or Shemika? Or Qwanisha? NO! Maybe Amber or Victoria. JAZZmeen ain't happening. Ridiculous even to ask, and he'd know that if he wasn't on drugs and stupid.

"No, you've got the wrong address."

He turns and goes. I go to the side window and look out. He's with another tall skinny black guy now. They don't stop at my neighbor's house, but walk to the corner, turn right and disappear from view.

Okay, what should I have done? The police say you should report suspicious activity. But what did I see? Some guy rang my doorbell at seven o'clock in the morning. Okay, maybe he was an itchy crack addict in dreadlocks. But so what?

OTOH, I KNOW we were being cased and by not reporting it I may have contributed to one of my neighbors getting ripped off, or worse.

So here I sit, with my 1911 locked and loaded one foot from my right hand, wondering... should you report something like that as being "suspicious?"


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: burglars; casing; myhouse; suspicousactivity; suspious; vanity
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To: LibWhacker

I have a German Shepherd. I never worry about locking my doors. I’m pretty sure he’d kill an intruder by about the time I got my safety lock off. Even the professional trainer I hired said multiple times, “he’d kill for you.” I don’t think I’d ever have to shoot an intruder. We figured out my dog isn’t aggressive, doesn’t have fear aggression, he has protect mom aggression. Nice to know I’m loved.


61 posted on 07/09/2012 9:48:30 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: yldstrk

How could I be a liberal? I went to the door with a weapon in hand and shot an etnic person that seemed suspicious? That’s being a liberal?


62 posted on 07/09/2012 9:49:32 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: yldstrk
Well, okay, so the reason so many cops come to your door is over funding.
And all these years I thought they just hung out at the donut shop.
Hmmm, maybe it's not over funding, but too much caffeine.
63 posted on 07/09/2012 9:49:32 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: LibWhacker
Doorbell ringers/burglar wanabees used to be a problem, but that nonsense stopped when I made the habit of responding to uninvited visitors at my front door, with a magnum revolver on my hip. I do not exaggerate when I say it's been years since anybody has darkened my door selling crap or “looking for Jazmeen.”
64 posted on 07/09/2012 9:49:32 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: stuartcr

“invite him in, make sure no one can see, shoot him while standing my ground and defending my castle.”

That was my plan for my ex-husband ;)


65 posted on 07/09/2012 9:51:11 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: Leaning Right

Maybe, but how would they prove it?


66 posted on 07/09/2012 9:51:20 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: pops88

So how did he become your ex?


67 posted on 07/09/2012 9:53:17 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: oh8eleven

You can joke all you want....I’ll never be surprised with a punk looking to rip me off.


68 posted on 07/09/2012 9:53:31 AM PDT by Gaffer (NOVEMBER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: LibWhacker

Your life can become a lot better if you keep people away from your HOME.

http://www.howtobeinvisible.com/

I advise everyone, avoid the police, don’t publish your real address, and secure your property from anyone wandering up to the front door. Public place is anywhere a person could reasonably walk unimpeded. The FENCE, The LOCK, The GATE all have legal meaning.

No one arrives at my house unexpected, few know my real location, and not even my MOM would come by without me knowing first.


69 posted on 07/09/2012 9:54:33 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org)
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To: Gaffer
I’ll never be surprised with a punk looking to rip me off.
Now I know why your homepage says what it does. LOL ...
70 posted on 07/09/2012 10:00:51 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: LibWhacker

A couple of incidents have happened at this house.

I mentioned them to a policeman acquaintance. He asked if I had reported them. I answered, “No.”

He said, “Report them. That’s why we’re here.”


71 posted on 07/09/2012 10:04:52 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (I wanna start a Seniors' Motor Scooter Gang. Wanna join?)
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To: stuartcr

I am the wife and unlike you, I am not a liar, nor do I go around thinking up ways to commit crimes. You are a freaking lunatic


72 posted on 07/09/2012 10:04:56 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: stuartcr

“So how did he become your ex?”

He was physically and emotionally abusive. I wasn’t of the “battered woman” mindset.


73 posted on 07/09/2012 10:05:58 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: oh8eleven

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away - ANYWHERE


74 posted on 07/09/2012 10:06:22 AM PDT by Gaffer (NOVEMBER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: stuartcr
How would they prove it?

Step 1 is for the police to catch you in a lie, any lie. If you're talking, that's actually pretty easy.

Step 2 is for the DA to convince the jury that if you lied about one thing, you're probably lying about everything.

Perhaps your defense attorney can get you off by arguing that you weren't lying. You were just confused from the stress of the incident. Then you're home free, except for your legal bills. And don't forget, after the criminal trial comes the civil trial. The intruder's family will probably sue you. More legal bills.

But perhaps your attorney won't be able to convince the jury that you were just confused, and not lying. Then you'll do 5 to 10 years for murder.

Moral of the story: Don't use deadly force unless you absolutely have to. And if you must talk to the police, don't lie.

75 posted on 07/09/2012 10:07:53 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: stuartcr
Why would you shoot him?
76 posted on 07/09/2012 10:08:30 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: stuartcr

stuartcr, you are posting opinions that are simply murderous, and are not representative of FR.

I doubt that most of us here advocate luring people into our homes so we can kill them and get away with it. It’s certainly nothing I ever desire to do. Killing people is not sport.


77 posted on 07/09/2012 10:09:52 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: LibWhacker
Suspicious activity. Report it. It probably was no mistake. They are likely casing your house. Don't let the fact they are black intimidate you into feeling "racist" for reporting it. People do not normally show up at your door at 7:15AM unless they know you personally, know where you live, and have a darn good reason for showing up at such an hour.

Next time, bring your 1911 along in case they decide to force their way in.

78 posted on 07/09/2012 10:10:42 AM PDT by Gritty (There is greater security in being feared than in being loved – Niccolo Machiavelli)
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To: LibWhacker

You should disinfect your doorbell and doorstep.


79 posted on 07/09/2012 10:13:55 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Gritty

Uninvited visitors to my door don’t ever return when I take their picture on my phone.


80 posted on 07/09/2012 10:15:46 AM PDT by weeweed (Proud Costco University graduate)
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