Posted on 07/08/2012 5:36:26 PM PDT by marktwain
According to Dallas News, a Texas gun owner shot a man who attacked him at a convenience food store.
Witnesses report that a drunk man stumbled into the EZ Trip Food Store in Dallas, Texas and began harassing customers. He repeatedly slapped one customer in the face until the customer ran from the store, so the drunk man switched his sights to another target. He began punching another man in the face and followed the fleeing man into the parking lot.
That was the biggest mistake of his life. The punched customer, who was a concealed license carrier, pulled out a gun and shot the drunk man. He hung around and waited for police to arrive and was taken into custody without any trouble.
The drunk man was taken to a local hospital, but he was pronounced dead roughly an hour after the shooting took place. The names of both individuals have not been released.
One witness called the shooting, “people being crazy,” and another told Dallas News, “It wasn’t worth the loss of life.” Despite these unsupportive witnesses, the shooter probably has a fairly good chance of walking. Texas’ Stand Your Ground Law states that a citizen doesn’t have to retreat if:
* He had the right to be at the location.
* He did not provoke the assailant.
* He was not engaged in criminal activity at the time.
Was shooting an obviously intoxicated and punch-happy drunk man excessive? Possibly. Was it legal? Looks like it.
The drunk Joe and sober Joe inhabit the same body and suffer the same consequences.
>>The drunk Joe and sober Joe inhabit the same body and suffer the same consequences. <<
Wasn’t that a Star Trek episode?
The article doesn’t say if the shooter first tried to use the gun to threaten the drunk. It reads like the shooter drew his gun and shot. I hope that isn’t what happened.
Don’t bring a beer to a gun fight.
...after you run away from him, he pursues you, and resumes his attack? I think not.
Don’t pull your gun until you are ready to shoot. If you want to wave it around, get a watergun. Because you obviously don’t consider yourself to be in reasonable fear for your life.
“It reads like the shooter drew his gun and shot. I hope that isn’t what happened.”
You don’t ‘threaten’ with deadly force. If you don’t have cause to use it then the gun should remain in its holster.
This isn't even "stand your ground." This is "run from a crazy drunk who just punched you and now is chasing you." I don't know why the author even used the word "excessive."
If I was on the jury, I would say “Not Guilty”.
If Obama had a drunk...
“Don’t pull your gun until you are ready to shoot.”
Agree. Citizens are not trained to detain perps, and should never use a firearm for threatening purposes.
A punch is an assault, and has the potential to seriously injure and kill.
The person being assaulted has no burden to asses whether or not the assailant is too drunk to fight, or if they are not trained to injure and kill with their bare hands.
IMO, anyone who pulls a gun to threaten a person attacking them is a fool.
“Was shooting an obviously intoxicated and punch-happy drunk man excessive? Possibly.”
How badly of a beating was the retreating permit holder, being pursued by the assailant, obligated to take in the eyes of this writer? If its some young strong guy, attacking someone much older than them,,,or or maybe a peaceful man who isnt that good with his fists.
bottom line,, when you drunkenly attack someone, “you pays your money,,,you takes your chances”.
“I gonna slap you into da middle o nex’ week.”
BAM!
Good shooting, Citizen. Civilization thanks you.
Despite what you wrote, I would rather pull out my concealed weapon and hold it casually pointed down at the ground and give the attacker a chance to back away. If they continue to threaten or attempt to attack, then BLAM!
With reactions like that, I think there may have been a racial angle to this...
Depends on how far away they are and what they’re holding.
There are excellent reasons not to do that. First, if you don’t have cause to use deadly force then ‘threatening’ with your firearm is considered brandishing.
Second, it gives the attacker the opportunity to take it away.
The guy had already attacked the victim and was chasing after him. These things typically happen very quickly. The second to last thing I want to do is shoot someone.
The last thing is have a family member get hurt because I didn’t.
Sure cure for drug addiction and alcoholism ...
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