CA Makes Moves to Ban Most Semi-Auto Firearms

NSSF ^ | 7/2/12

[pabianice]

(GunReports.com) -- If you think it is hard to own and possess a semi-automatic firearm in California now, just wait until Senate Bill 249 gets enacted, NRA-ILA reports.

Senate Bill 249 was amended from an agriculture bill to a serious anti-gun bill to eliminate the ownership and possession of most semi-automatic firearms by law-abiding Californians. SB 249, introduced by state Senator Leland Yee (D-8), would restrict any person from importing, making, selling, loaning, transferring or possessing magazine release components in semi-auto firearms (bullet button, etc).

Senate Bill 249, if enacted, would ban the ownership and possession of AR-15s and other magazine-fed semi-automatic firearms that currently use "bullet buttons" or other tools to restrict the removal of the magazine. This anti-gun bill would also authorize civil and criminal penalties for possessing a "conversion kit."

Also, SB 249 would make the possession of a "conversion kit" a public nuisance, authorize civil and criminal penalties and require surrendering the conversion kit. According to this bill, a conversion kit is any combination of parts that, when affixed to a firearm with a fixed magazine, are designed and intended to convert that firearm into an “assault weapon” as defined in the bill.

[Secret Agent Man]

Look for the ten-round revolver coming your way soon.

[Secret Agent Man]

You mean just like Obamacare in the US Senate.

[mylife]

I bought my first M1 carbine in Ca but now I am in violation of the law if I have it there with a 20 round mag in it as I have no receipt.

That was 30 years ago.

[Secret Agent Man]

Your magazine release button.

[mylife]

Can’t find the receipt for the darn microwave I bought that year either!

[mylife]

I suppose you can always fall back on Manufacture date as a legal defense in a situation like that.

[mylife]

I love the little M1 carbine.
That was my first gun.
I wish they were cheaper to feed.

Best wishes and happy plinking!

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

AS I read the California Attorney General booklet it is NOT illegal to POSSESS a magazine greater than 10 rounds. It IS illegal to buy and sell them. Further, owning and possessing an M1 carbine IS NOT illegal.

[atomic_dog]

What is a “bullet button?”

See that funny looking piece of metal at the front of the trigger guard that covers the magazine release? That's a "bullet button." In essence it "permanently" attaches the magazine. It's is not a loophole or workaround, rather it is "verbatim compliance" with the law as written. There was a court ruling subsequent to the ban that defined "permanent" as "requiring a tool to remove" and stated that a bullet, in that circumstance, was a tool.

What's up with Yee is that he watched a show on KCBS in SF where they took an AR and attached a "Mag Magnet," which holds itself to the bullet button by magnetism. Having a Mag Magnet attached to bullet button is already illegal in CA. Was KCBS charged with felony manufacturing of an assault weapon? I think not. But Yee saw the show, probably when he wasn't cruising for hookers in Tenderloin (has cautioned by the SFPD 2x for doing so). and decided to get some newstime, which KCBS promptly provided. Yee says he is only going after the Mag Magnet but legal analysis of his poorly written bill indicates it could affect bullet buttons as well.

I wonder if I could get Yee to follow me to the range and release my magazines for me. I am certain it would be 100% legal under CA law since he is a tool.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

I don’t find M-1 ammo expensive. What I find expensive is my .308 Savage target rifle-which I love to shoot.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

I was born here long ago and our state has been ruined.

[piytar]

Huh? That’s news to me! I geve my AR to my brother in Texas when I moved here several months ago because I thought it would be illegal to own here in CA.

[WildHighlander57]

What if it was inherited before 2000?

No receipt there.

Would a will or trust suffice and would the date be when things got transferred? “Personal goods”...

[Carriage Hill]

Thank God for Guns!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMQzxvrlvk4

[LouAvul]

Yes, your AR would have been illegal. But if you had been a kalifornia resident prior to 2000 and had owned such a weapon, it would have been legal for you to own it.

[Veggie Todd]

In before the first boating accident comment?

[smokingfrog]

You can own an AR in CA -- it just can't have all those "'evil' features" like a detachable magazine, collapsible stock, flash hider, pistol grip, etc...

In a state with some of the strictest gun laws in the nation, how is it these military-style guns are legal?

[benikrok]

When I was stationed at 32nd street I was sent to a class for ship’s sentry. The class was run by contractors, and they weren’t allowed to have magazines larger than 10 rounds.

I’m glad I got the hell out of that place.

[DCBryan1]

There is not such a thing as a Class 3 weapon. This is a misnomer in gun parlance. The class 3 term is the correct term for a (Federal Firearm License) FFL holder that pays a Special Occupational Tax (SOT) in addition to their FFL to give them legal access to deal, sell, transfer, repair, mfg, etc Ntional Firearm Act of 1934 (NFA) Title 1 or Title 2 firearms.

An FFL with a class III SOT is usually a retail gun store that can deal in NFA items. Title 1 firearms are typically non Title 2 firearms. Title 2 of the NFA are either fully automatic firearms, suppressors, destructive devices, short barrel rifles, short barrel shotguns, or any other weapons (AOW).

I am a Type 7 FFL, Class 02 SOT. I can not only sell Title 2 firearms, I can mfg them.

Anyways, there is no such thing s a class 3 firearm. However there is a SOT tax FFL holders can pay to deal in them. The correct term is Title 2 Firearms under the NFA of 1934.

. it's kinda like breaking gun enthusiasts from using the term "bullet" rather than the term "ammunition" or "cartridge". Everyone knows what you are trying to say, but technically it is incorrect.

It may seem petty or insipid, but if you are going to debate gun grabbers, liberals, or ignorant people to pro gun arguments, you might as well get it right. Gungraboids purposely used firearm terms to misconstrue full auto/select fire ASSAULT RIFLES with the made up political term of "assault weapon" in order to make ignorant voters think they were lumping in their semi auto clones into the ban.

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