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Justice Roberts Pleads: "Lie To Me"
American Thinker ^ | 6-29-2012 | C. Edmund Wright

Posted on 06/29/2012 4:14:31 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright

..........Later in the day, however, the pundit elites started to furrow their brows and dust off their elbow patches -- and proceeded to try to convince us rubes that we had overreacted. They treated us to all kinds of contorted rationalizations and justifications full of pseudo-intellectual gobbledygook. We got this from Charles Krauthammer, George Will, Thomas Lifson, Erick Erickson -- among others. And while I really tried to like it -- and really tried to find solace or a silver lining -- there are just some basic, fundamental things I could not ignore. The bottom line is that John Roberts just told Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi figuratively to "lie to me...lie to me and I'll like it!" One can only wonder if he liked it as much as Chris Matthews liked the leg tingle or as much as David Brooks liked the sharp crease.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: roberts; supremecourt
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To: sox_the_cat

Sadly, I don’t think any of the hypotheticals you raise would be defeated if challenged. Other than for violations of the Bill of Rights (and maybe not all of THEM), Congress’ taxing authority is extremely broad (especially after the 16th Amendment).

I agree with your complaint, I just don’t know that the Court’s ruling exacerbated the problem.


81 posted on 06/29/2012 6:38:09 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Boogieman
For example, I can say that the Treasury printing money excessively is effectively a tax, since they are devaluing our currency.

Yeah you could say that and they could say you were wrong

Can you tell me the GOP rational for calling it a tax
82 posted on 06/29/2012 6:39:23 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob

“Can you tell me the GOP rational for calling it a tax”

I’m not the GOP, why don’t you ask them? It’s not my job to support your arguments.


83 posted on 06/29/2012 6:41:23 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The point is that there was some very subtle things done yesterday that some people are missing because they’re too busy running around in circles with their heads cut off.


84 posted on 06/29/2012 6:43:21 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: uncbob

It’s basically a “Head Tax” a tax just for breathing...it’s not based on income, and it’s not based on the use of any good or service, it’s a tax on inaction, which in my book is called a “penalty.”


85 posted on 06/29/2012 6:50:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: tentmaker

I no longer see SCOTUS as a part of the “checks and balances” that protected our Republic. They are but rubber stamps with multiple blatant examples. Yes we have “no standing” nor anything else worth while. Stepping back before going vulgar.


86 posted on 06/29/2012 6:50:49 AM PDT by mcshot (God bless the USA! OMG PLEASE vote ABO or OWW and our Country dies.)
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To: freekitty

You need to step back in time to the day that Obama was sworn into Office in a private ceremony in the map room.

No Bible. Where was Lincoln’s Bible that Obama just had to have during the public swearing in???

But most importantly a fact that most pay no attention to when I bring it up.

There is a picture of Benjamin Latrobe front and center for that swearing in. That was not where that picture was during the Bush term nor Clinton.

The picture disappeared from that place during a Matt Lauer interview - before the SuperBowl a few weeks later.

Someone wanted that picture front and center. That someone might also be pulling Roberts strings.


87 posted on 06/29/2012 6:53:10 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“Doesn’t change the fact that this ruling, on the issue of law, is awful”

I’m not a lawyer but I do know that a law’s meaning (like just about everything these days) is up to the interpretation of an individual (or groups) perception at the time or circumstance it is being considered.

That said I try to believe in the conservative wisdom of a man like Roberts that he understands the meaning / consequences of his actions whereas his ruling is a correct interpretation of the law as it needs to read at this point in time.

Given the 4 months until the next election I think the decision was a perfect balance on many levels.


88 posted on 06/29/2012 6:54:01 AM PDT by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958

I think Roberts changed his vote
http://www.salon.com/2012/06/28/did_john_roberts_switch_his_vote/


89 posted on 06/29/2012 7:07:25 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Boogieman
I’m not the GOP, why don’t you ask them? It’s not my job to support your arguments.

I guess then I can't trust the GOP members of congress that tried to stop this abomination by saying in reality it is a tax or do you think they were blowing smoke


90 posted on 06/29/2012 7:13:24 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: dfwgator
It’s basically a “Head Tax” a tax just for breathing.

So it is a tax
91 posted on 06/29/2012 7:15:13 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: TheRhinelander

No one is missing the subtle things that are good at all. What you and some pointy headed elites are doing is trying to make yourself look too smart by half by ignoring the camels while straining the gnats. The subtle things could have been done PLUS the sledge hammer removed.

Sometimes things are just what they seem, and we do not need verification from those who are too cutesy in their analysis.


92 posted on 06/29/2012 7:24:26 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: uncbob

You are going in circles — no where FAST.


93 posted on 06/29/2012 7:26:19 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: RummyChick

That is interesting but unless one of the Members or aides comes out and states he changed his mind how will we ever know

And why at the last minute

Any number of reasons can be postulated


94 posted on 06/29/2012 7:29:04 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob

They were making a political argument, you can choose to accept it or not accept it. If you are asking me whether it’s wise to trust politicians, GOP or otherwise, well, let me just quote Agatha Christie and say, “Where large sums of money are concerned, it is advisable to trust nobody.”


95 posted on 06/29/2012 7:29:12 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Thought the same about your arguments

Do you think the GOP was blowing smoke calling it a tax


96 posted on 06/29/2012 7:33:09 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Boogieman
They were making a political argument

In other words they were BSing

I am willing to bet there were posters on this site who were agreeing with them
97 posted on 06/29/2012 7:35:22 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: mcshot
I no longer see SCOTUS as a part of the “checks and balances” that protected our Republic.

But that's exactly what the court did. It created a limit to the commerce clause for the first time. (incredibly important!) It re-affirmed the states tenth amendment rights in the medicaid portion of the ruling. And, in spite of the hue and cry, it pointed out that SCOTUS also has limits under the Constitution and refused to delve in the land of policy (setting taxes).

Roberts should be applauded by conservatives:


98 posted on 06/29/2012 7:36:08 AM PDT by tentmaker (vote for John Galt)
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To: MarDav

Thank you for your post.

I too am sad but I am also very angry that our country was stolen from us by the leftists that hate it all the while proclaiming their love of it. I think that is what made us so complacent to allow them in and to eat our core like termites.
We try to be tolerant people and we were and are being destroyed by those who demand that tolerance of us while they pull out our fingernails and put out our eyes with hot pokers.

They have succeeded. I will play along until Nov.6. If there is not a mssive sea change in the election, I will be as a stone and will no longer pledge any allegiance to these cretins.


99 posted on 06/29/2012 7:42:46 AM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: Arlis
I won’t be surprised if O is re-elected by the mindless masses [...]

...not to mention the lifeless ones.

100 posted on 06/29/2012 8:01:09 AM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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