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Actually, Justice Roberts Demolished Obama In His Supreme Court Ruling
Business Insider ^ | Jun. 28, 2012, | Grace Wyler

Posted on 06/28/2012 9:09:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah

....But while Roberts may have saved Obama's signature domestic legislation — and perhaps his reelection campaign — by siding with the court's liberal wing, he actually did it in spite of Obama, not because of him.

Roberts' opened his opinion today by declaring, unequivocally, that the individual mandate — which requires people to buy insurance or pay a penalty — is not constitutional under the Commerce Clause or the Necessary and Proper Clause. It's a direct shot at the Obama administration's defense of the law's constitutionality, which largely relied on those two clauses, which give Congress the power to regulate commerce and to enact provisions that are necessary to carry out its laws, respectively.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; authorondrugs; businessinsider; chiefjusticeroberts; deathpanels; idiocy; obamacare; obamacaredecision; roberts; scotus; stupidafterthink; zerocare; zerohedge
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To: little jeremiah
Ok, so if you're taxed for not buying health insurance, say a couple hundred bucks, and then keel over and need quadruple bypass surgery and brain surgery for a head injury.... How does that couple hundred buck fine help make healthcare affordable to all? It's actually worse then now because you can sign up at the time of injury, make the plan you pick pay, thereby making us still all pay for your lack of health insurance! At least now if you don't have insurance they would bill you, not all of us.
121 posted on 06/28/2012 10:42:52 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: little jeremiah
Not buying it either. We can undo the Obamacare legislation if we can win back the WH and Senate, but it is almost impossible to undo the SCOTUS ruling. Due to Chief Justice Roberts the SCOTUS has now said the Feds can now tax us for inactivity. They can tax you for not purchasing a Chevy Volt, they can tax you for not eating broccoli, they can tax you for not joining a health gym.........and on and on. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED THIS MORNING AND THERE IS NO WAY TO SPIN THAT TO A VICTORY OR TO SAY WE CAN UNDO IT ON NOV 6.

This is a HUGE win for the RATS and you see it all over the news and web - IMHO Obozo is a shoe in for two terms - this was his signature legislation.
122 posted on 06/28/2012 10:43:13 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: All
Roberts would have been a model subject to King George III.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

- United States Declaration of Independence
123 posted on 06/28/2012 10:43:32 PM PDT by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

EGG-ZACKLY


124 posted on 06/28/2012 10:47:30 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: MHGinTN

Not to mention a tax cannot originate in the senate, something Roberts seems to have completely disregarded. The bill should have been slapped down on that provision alone after he illegally declared it a tax. I guess if you are going to legislate from the bench you can overlook stuff like that.


125 posted on 06/28/2012 10:49:24 PM PDT by calex59
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To: sonic109
Revolution time is here ..I REFUSE TO PLAY ALONG

Hear, hear. Obama has already weakened this nation beyond all recognition, and forced most of our backs right to the frikken wall. And now Roberts basically gives America the kiss of death with this insane ruling.

What the hell else do we have to lose? I say Bring It!

126 posted on 06/28/2012 10:50:25 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: little jeremiah

Folks are idiots to attempt to spin the actions of Roberts as somehow beneficial. They are not. All he has done is said hey the fed. govt. has unlimited power to tax any American citizen they choose to for any reason they want to.

The IRS can be an instrument to police the behavior of individual citizens. There is no need for objectivity or fairness in their power to tax. Some people can be forced into slavery using this power and that is okay.

Roberts is insane and wrong. He was not genius or clever.


127 posted on 06/28/2012 10:50:54 PM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: rwfromkansas
you know what really bugs me?...not this ruling...I expected that we'd get a charlatan or two on the Court....

but what really bugs me is that we the plain old citizens are getting royally shafted in every way...and NO ONE is standing up for us...

we can't have morality and decency anymore...we can't say NO to homos...we can't have a clean and fit and mentally straight military...we can't have our chaplains saying "Jesus"....we can't keep our property if some rich outfit wants it....

illegals have more rights than we do...

128 posted on 06/28/2012 10:52:27 PM PDT by cherry
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Sounds about right.


129 posted on 06/28/2012 10:52:29 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: All

btw, with no family doctors here, going to a walk-in clinic means getting there well in advance of the doors opening at 7—as in 5 am. Because there will be a line, and with our local clinic, it’s outside, which is super fun in the middle of an Ottawa winter.

Basically, it’s an all-day production. Hurry up to wait for two hours or so, put your name on a list, then sit in the waiting room for hours.

The situation is so bad here that people have died on gurneys in emergency rooms, just waiting for hospital beds.

What will make it worse for the U.S. is that Canada can pay for this health care system (cracking at the seams, obviously) because Canadians rely on the U.S. for defense. They’ll never admit it (most of them at least). But what will happen a few years down the road in the U.S. when entitlement programs, necessary military spending, and socialized medicine (and social security!) collide.

After being disappointed by Sarah and Herman, I took out a tagline, but I am putting in one now.

Take care everyone. God bless.


130 posted on 06/28/2012 10:53:13 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (Pray for America. She is the world's last best hope for freedom. May it not be too late.)
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To: NVDave
Moreover, he’s a moron for decided that this was a tax. The legislation doesn’t impose a tax - it does impose a penalty for not carrying or obtaining insurance from some provider. The mandate is to buy the private insurance, not to pay the penalty. The penalty is conditional upon ignoring the mandate. The problem was always the mandated commerce.

I'd like to know how they are going to enforce this now? I guarantee that there are already schemes in place ready to scam the system. Congress has not solved a problem, they have created 50 million more problems! When this legislation was in its creation stage, there were many questions about how the government would be able to force a twenty-something to pay for a product he did not want nor think he needed. Billions of dollars were budgeted to hire IRS agents to track down the scofflaws and force their cooperation. We may yet see a debtor's prison for those who protest this illegal mandate and refuse to pay the penalties and interest such rebellion will rack up. Those who can somehow "prove" financial hardship will be exempt from the "tax" yet will STILL be provided health care paid for by those of us who actually pay taxes. Rather than eliminate fraud, this will open a whole new avenue to do so. Just watch!

131 posted on 06/28/2012 10:55:56 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Windflier

>> What the hell else do we have to lose? I say Bring It!

Well, there is an upcoming election...

How about we bring in the votes? Seriously.

This is a good time for grass roots. It’s not about Romney, it’s about us, and if we remain steadfast and vocal, we can influence his Presidency should he win.

Our greatest liability is complacency and despair.


132 posted on 06/28/2012 10:56:43 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: little jeremiah

That is weak..

Sell out the country to get Ruth to hang around?

Now is the BEST time to fight an Obama judge. Not after the election.


133 posted on 06/28/2012 10:57:51 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: little jeremiah

The meaning of all this is (AZ + ObamaCare) simple:

We can’t rely on the Supreme Court anymore... for anything.

EVERYTHING must be done by the elected branches of government. Everything.

That means we have to win big in November.

We either win big, or we lose big.

There’s no middle ground.


134 posted on 06/28/2012 10:58:33 PM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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To: NVDave
"to Bush, we have this idiot as the CJ of the SCOTUS for a long time to come...:

may I remind everyone that there was jubiliation when Roberts got appointed to the court, even here on FR....

I must say I was confused why Bush would make him Chief Justice and not the scholarly Scalia....

think folks...if we had a Bork....if we had the Senate back then...

votes do count...

don't throw another rat senator at us while you're either not voting or voting third party...

135 posted on 06/28/2012 10:59:05 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cableguymn
They gave Congress the power to regulate commerce,not to compel it.

The framers' idea of the term "regulate" was to make regular, frequent, and unimpeded. Roberts stands that idea on its head (as do most people today).

Does that make me qualified to be Chief Justice?

136 posted on 06/28/2012 11:02:54 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: little jeremiah
I’ve been on the verge of vomiting all day.

LJ, I had to back away from the computer and go numb my mind with television. I soon fell asleep and woke up feeling like a lump of clay. This thing has drained me so bad, I can hardly collect my thoughts.

I'm sitting here tonight wondering if my kids are going to have to fight a bloody revolution in a few years time to save their country. Hell, I'm wondering if I will...

137 posted on 06/28/2012 11:04:57 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: boatbums

Funny how the same people who claim Fedzilla isn’t up to the herculean task of tracking down 12 million illegals, foresee no difficulties in Fedzilla conducting annual audits of the health-insurance status of over 300 million people.


138 posted on 06/28/2012 11:05:10 PM PDT by kevao
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To: little jeremiah

Bump to read later. Looks like there are some interesting comments.


139 posted on 06/28/2012 11:06:39 PM PDT by azishot
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To: dfwgator
And Nelson Cruz caught the fly ball that gave the Rangers the World Series victory over the Cardinals.

It's been a bad enough day without the recalling of that failure for the ages.

TWICE!

...and then there's the seared-into-memory 13-point Mavs lead with 6:34 left in the 2006 series against the Heat.

Similarly, there was a lot of weauxing about the SCOTUS ruling on Obamacare. It seemed liked a victory for Conservatism was a sure thing. Heck, I was even planning a parade to celebrate it being overturned.

140 posted on 06/28/2012 11:06:49 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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