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What Happened to John Roberts?
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | June 28, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 06/28/2012 3:38:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: mkjessup

Ah so you are the ultimate arbiter of what is relevant in this discourse, thanks for the heads up.

Yeah you’ve got it, Roberts is a flaming liberal. Soviet mole perhaps.


61 posted on 06/28/2012 4:30:30 PM PDT by nerdgirl
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To: nerdgirl

The reason this doesn’t work is that he had to stretch the law to call it a tax. This required overstepping.

His use of the phrase “may reasonably be characterized as a tax” arises from the premise that it is not actually a tax.

It’s not actually a tax, but it may reasonably be characterized as a tax.

Sort of like a straight line. It’s not a curved line, but it may reasonably be bent into a curved line.


62 posted on 06/28/2012 4:31:25 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: Terry Mross

He also didn’t explain what kind of a tax ObamaCare “may reasonably be characterized as.” My guess is, he got lost in his own convolutions and doesn’t have a clue.


63 posted on 06/28/2012 4:32:17 PM PDT by kevao
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To: kevao

Is it believed that Roberts actually wrote this opinion? Does it read as if it was penned by him? How does it compare with his other writing?


64 posted on 06/28/2012 4:34:44 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: reasonisfaith

Yes that seems to be the case. I’m not a lawyer though, so for me the more pressing question is the WHY rather than the how.

It’s all just a way to vent the frustration of the day I suppose.


65 posted on 06/28/2012 4:37:17 PM PDT by nerdgirl
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To: nerdgirl

lol.....I’m a MidWesterner, and I’d say you are totally off-base. We can be nice, but still hold to our principles. It’s something else.


66 posted on 06/28/2012 4:39:38 PM PDT by Girlene (Chief AHat Roberts - should resign in disgrace.)
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To: jwalsh07

Yesterday there was a column where Lawrence Tribe claimed Justice Roberts as a law student, and he said that Roberts would vote today for Obamacare.

This sort of ties into the “rumors” Rush mentioned and to his own experience with someone who some time ago said, of all of them, “watch Roberts”.


67 posted on 06/28/2012 4:39:53 PM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: free me

Granted Free Me, but, since it has now been declared a tax, and ALL revenue bills must originate in the House, can this bill now be rolled back because it is a Senate Tax Bill?


68 posted on 06/28/2012 4:40:08 PM PDT by abigkahuna (I have achieved the goal of semi-literacy through public schooling.)
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To: Kaslin

Wow! Best analysis I’ve heard from Rush or anyone on this. Bookmarked.


69 posted on 06/28/2012 4:42:05 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: reasonisfaith
It would not be unheard-of for Roberts to vote in support of ObamaCare to effectively make the point that the U.S. Supreme Court has no business getting involved in cases where idiocy was the name of the game from Day One when Congress began debating the legislation.

If I were a U.S. Supreme Court justice, I would have recused myself from the case simply on the basis of that bizarre statement by that dingbat Nancy Pelosi that "we have to pass the bill to find out what's in it."

My take as a Supreme Court justice would have been:

"Why the hell should I spend five seconds of my life reading a legal brief about a case involving a Federal law that the f#%&ing Speaker of the House didn't even read before sending it to the floor for a vote??"

70 posted on 06/28/2012 4:42:21 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: nerdgirl; jwalsh07
Ah so you are the ultimate arbiter of what is relevant in this discourse, thanks for the heads up.

Anytime chicky-boo.

Yeah you’ve got it, Roberts is a flaming liberal. Soviet mole perhaps.

Jwalsh07 said: "It is extremely relevant since Miers vetted Roberts and recommended against his nomination."

NerdGirl, meet JWalsh, Jwalsh? Meet NerdGirl.

Have at it kids.
71 posted on 06/28/2012 4:43:21 PM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: nerdgirl

Your idea makes sense, in my blind rage I didn’t read it carefully the first time. Frustration is right.


72 posted on 06/28/2012 4:44:38 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: mkjessup

You should respect your elders and your betters. That would be me on this thread since you can’t seem to recognize that folks who had Roberts pegged are valuable in the future. But go ahead keep supporting those “ conservative” Harvard law geniuses.


73 posted on 06/28/2012 4:47:32 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: Vendome

It would have to be bigger than that.


74 posted on 06/28/2012 4:48:09 PM PDT by Girlene (Chief AHat Roberts - should resign in disgrace.)
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


75 posted on 06/28/2012 4:49:13 PM PDT by nutmeg (I'm with Sarah Palin: Anybody But Obama 2012)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent
To portray a penalty as a tax is twisted.

And watch every congress critter race to repeal this "Tax" burden that has been placed on every American guaranteeing an Obama loss in November.

Maybe, and I mean maybe Roberts didn't forget the grilling his wife got at his confirmation let alone the scorn at the SOTU...just a thought time will tell.

76 posted on 06/28/2012 4:50:00 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Alberta's Child

To make the point that idiocy was the name of the game.

But that’s not what the reasoning Roberts has given. The mandate “may reasonably be characterized as a tax,” although in actuality it wasn’t a tax before Roberts “characterized” it.


77 posted on 06/28/2012 4:50:54 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: mkjessup

And you, should meet my 3 1/2 year old (my 5 year old might be a bit mature for you).


78 posted on 06/28/2012 4:55:42 PM PDT by nerdgirl
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What happened to Roberts was he was appointed by George The Johnson Democrat Bush. Did any serious conservative really think Bush would intentionally allow a conservative on the USSC especially as Chief Justice? I bet he’s wringing his hands though over Alito who got by his liberal GOP insider vetting process. The USSC Court burned us twice in a week.


79 posted on 06/28/2012 5:03:44 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: reasonisfaith
What Roberts may effectively be saying is that it's not up to him to redner a judgement on an idiotic law that was deliberately vague on any number of items. it wasn't like he's ruling on some refined point of law dating back 200 years. The stupid thing was passed two years ago. Let Congress figure out what the law says, or doesn't say.

Look what happened with the Stolen Valor Act. The court decision striking it down was one of the most pointless decisions ever handed down -- because it was such a silly law that the U.S. Justice Department had stopped even attempting to enforce it anyway.

80 posted on 06/28/2012 5:07:17 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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