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James Q. Wilson (2008): Do Blacks Treat Jews in the Same Manner in Which Jews Treat Evangelicals?

Posted on 06/28/2012 10:07:31 AM PDT by pinochet

The late conservative sociologist and evangelical Christian, James Q. Wilson, made an interesting observation on the manner in which Blacks, Jews, and Evangelicals relate to one another. Here is his fascinating 2008 article: http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_1_evangelicals.html

Here is a summary of his article. White Evangelical Christians are the strongest supporters of Israel in America, and their support for Israel comes from their religious beliefs that Israel is a fulfillment of scripture. But most American Jews have never been great fans of evangelicals, despite great efforts on the part of evangelicals to reach out to Jews.

Jews are the one white ethnic group, that has the strongest record of supporting civil rights for blacks. Jews have a strong record of supporting affirmative action for blacks, despite the fact that affirmative action harms Jews. Despite this, ADL studies have shown that blacks have the highest levels of anti-semitism of any group, with the exception of Muslims. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have made anti-semitic remarks, but this has not harmed their careers. In fact, the anti-semitism of Sharpton and Jackson has made them national celebrities, and has led to them being celebrated as national figures.

Compare the treatment that Al Sharpton gets, hosting his own show on MSNBC, with the treatment that Pat Buchanan has received. Sharpton is much worse than Buchanan, with regard to anti-semitism. Sharpton helped incite the Crown Heights riots in 1991, which killed a Jewish Student called Yankel Rosenbaum. Then there is a long list of black anti-semites who are loved by blacks, such as Louis Farrakhan, Leonard Jeffries, Amiri Baraka, Andrew Young, Khalid Muhammad, Steve Cokely, Tony Martin, David Dinkins, Malcolm X, Cynthia McKinney, Alton Maddox, etc.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: blacks; evangelicals; israel; jews; proisrael
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To: Bellflower
"You may have made it out of Egypt, but not yet into The Promised Land."

You have no idea. The 40 years was important, G-d had a special purpose for that, it was not a bad thing. And yes, I have recieved the promise, I have joined with my people at Sinai, heard the voice of G-d and saw no form. I join with my forefathers in their experience at Sinai and judge all potential revelations per Deut 13 and 18. Jesus fails both tests. Were are still in the galut (exile) but we hear the footsteps of mashiach. It wont be long now and when he arrives, his name will not be Jesus or any version of that name...that is a certainty.

161 posted on 07/04/2012 8:43:42 AM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: Marie; Jewbacca

It is a Jewish parent’s responsibility to ensure the Jewishness of their children. Conversion occurs in a vacuum.

I don’t believe conversion is anywhere near the threat as intermarriage, lack of education and failure to provide a Jewish home.

I agree with Jewbacca’s take - annoying but sincere.


162 posted on 07/04/2012 10:34:59 AM PDT by dervish (ABO)
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To: RobbyS

Many years ago (before 2000 election maybe) I read that someone asked a room full of reporters covering the presidential race - how many of you know someone who is gay. All raised their hands. How many of you know an Evangelical Christian? No one raised their hand.

Therein lies the problem.


163 posted on 07/04/2012 10:39:17 AM PDT by dervish (ABO)
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To: pinochet

Interesting post. Without Evangelicals there would be no State of Israel. Many American Jews are complacent thanks to the blessings of America. Many do not have the welfare of Israel as much of a priority. And even the ones that do still do not feel the existential threats hovering over it. Interestingly, US citizens in Israel voted strongly for McCain over Obama.

One point I never see addressed is that Jews seem to be condemned if they do and condemned if they don’t. This may play into the Jewish liberal vote. I am referring to the charge of dual loyalty. Some liberal Jews like the early Jewish Reform movement may seek to avoid that charge.

One correction, neither David Dinkins nor Andrew Young belong on this list with the likes of Al Sharpton.


164 posted on 07/04/2012 10:58:37 AM PDT by dervish (ABO)
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To: pinochet
Do Blacks Treat Jews in the Same Manner in Which Jews Treat Evangelicals?

No...they kill them.

165 posted on 07/04/2012 11:09:04 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ansel12

“Even the Dali Lama does not have a his usual ‘unity of all religions’ tolerance for Evangelicals.”

How so?


166 posted on 07/04/2012 11:16:47 AM PDT by dervish (ABO)
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To: blasater1960

Hi “blaster1960”, I’m back on FR, but quite tired, especially since spending time outdoors in the heat of the mid west. You have brought up interesting topics, but to address them all out of The Bible, I would nearly have to write a book. I will try to address at least some of them at a future time, as right now, it time for me to wind down and get some sleep. Praising The LORD, “bellflower”


167 posted on 07/06/2012 10:34:08 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Bellflower
Hello Bellflower

No rush...and no worries. I have studied Christian apologetics for 30 years, so you dont really have to respond...stay cool in all the heat..

all the best,

B

168 posted on 07/07/2012 7:28:17 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: dervish

This goes back to my days of newspaper clippings before the internet.

The Dali-lama at International meetings of religious bodies was of course gracious and in unity, but he could not control the universal impulse to point out that the Christian right, Evangelicals of America, are out of sinc with ‘spirituality’ and ‘oneness’.

My old clipping was from the 1980s, I haven’t tried yet to search for this stuff on the internet, but if you are dedicated enough to Christian treatment, then I may try to verify my memory with documentation for you.


169 posted on 07/07/2012 11:50:21 PM PDT by ansel12
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