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Affordable Care Act SCOTUS Decision--Live Thread
SCOTUSblog ^ | June 28, 2012 | SCOTUSblog

Posted on 06/28/2012 4:56:21 AM PDT by John W

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To: LostInBayport


That's why this is a win. The SCOTUS disagrees with Obama - the ACA IS A TAX. As such SCOTUS cannot stop it. But the legislative branch can. That said the ruling is nuts - SCOTUS is saying the government is not making you do anything if you can refuse to do it and pay a fine. Horrible precedent but politically a win.
481 posted on 06/28/2012 8:06:18 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: little jeremiah

“Roberts is a disgusting piece of slime. I’m sick.”

And what amazes me is that the usual swing vote (Kennedy) voted WITH the conservatives! If Roberts had voted with Kennedy and the others, this thing would have been obliterated. It makes me wonder.........was he bribed, threatened,etc?

Roberts has usually been a reliable, conservative vote. I have a feeling something may have happened that we don’t know about....


482 posted on 06/28/2012 8:06:20 AM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: LostInBayport

When people get over the innitial shock and clear heads start thinking, we may find we have just been handed the election AND the end of Obamacare/Dem rule on a golden platter.

A $2000 TAX FOR EVERY BLACK/HISPANIC/ET alll is not going to stand people!!!!!


483 posted on 06/28/2012 8:06:50 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: apillar

As much as I dislike Mitt Romney. He is our only chance of getting rid of this Obama-nation now. He claims that if elected he will exempt everybody from the requirements by granting a universal waiver.


Drop in the bucket. Means nothing. The ENTIRE PIECE OF CRAP is tyranny.

The line in the sand is crossed, it’s over. Blood in streets and all that is inevitable.


484 posted on 06/28/2012 8:06:50 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Art in Idaho
Just listening to more news they are saying the Chief Justice Roberts said the mandate can be upheld if LOOKED AT AS A TAX.

But! But! But! Obama and all his minions kept saying it WAS NOT A TAX.

485 posted on 06/28/2012 8:06:50 AM PDT by Spunky
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To: PJ-Comix

Yeah does this mean that it has to go back to Congress to be rewritten as a tax? If so its dead. Has anybody heard from mark Levin on this? Can’t wait for his show today. Maybe Rush will have him on.


486 posted on 06/28/2012 8:07:20 AM PDT by waxer1 ("The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: Norm Lenhart

That’s the way I’m reading it too.

No more yap-yapping people, get off your asses and work for candidates who will repeal this crap.


487 posted on 06/28/2012 8:07:36 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: freekitty
Our country died today thanks to Roberts.

Appointed by another Bush...

The Bush family just keeps giving..

Where are all these Bush fans now?

488 posted on 06/28/2012 8:07:55 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: StAnDeliver

“Thusly he has sent it back to the House (even to statehouses!) transmogrifed as a tax.
This isn’t a bad thing. The House can now starve the beast, and even moreso at the State level; while at the same time, every GOP candidate runs on Obama making this the biggest tax increase in history.”

You’re completely missing the big picture. Sure, in the short run this could be the downfall of Obama.

But this IS a bad thing. It’s a HORRIBLE, UNBELIEVABLY BAD thing. The Supreme Court has just declared that Congress can force almost ANYTHING on us (except perhaps telling the truth about military service), so long as the penalty for non-compliance is a tax. We are not a free country until this decision in reversed.


489 posted on 06/28/2012 8:08:04 AM PDT by Stat Man
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To: LostInBayport

HEY FOLKS! DON'T GET DEPRESSED! THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE WAR WE WIN!


490 posted on 06/28/2012 8:08:08 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

It means the govt. can’t force you to buy health insurance, but they can tax you if you don’t.
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Well we would be getting taxed for this monstrosity either way. At least now people can opt out.
I guess that’s somewhat ok. Just wait until those who don’t want the healthcare bill get a huge tax for it...the constituents will not likely.


491 posted on 06/28/2012 8:08:13 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: Proudcongal

I am waiting for RUSH’s take on this in an hour. I especially am interested in what he has to say about this brand new tax having to be approved by the Congress. If this is true I don’t see any chance of the current Congress approving the ObamaCare tax.


492 posted on 06/28/2012 8:08:15 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (You're screwy! You're spaced! You lost the recall race!)
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To: bjcoop

You’re right. Kennedy voted to dump the whole thing. I’d bet he actually wrote most of the joint dissent. This is all Roberts. He saved Obamacare.


493 posted on 06/28/2012 8:08:21 AM PDT by jeltz25
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To: apillar

Better get ready for your “Vegtable Purchase Mandate” and “Electric Car” mandate.

and THAT, my FRiend, is EXACTLY what is going to happen, based upon which companies grease the palms of Obama the most.

“Here ya go Mr. President. A check for 1 mil. Now, please make the American public buy my crappy pos product that nobody wants or needs.”


494 posted on 06/28/2012 8:08:25 AM PDT by a real Sheila ("Vado a bordo, cazzo!")
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To: reegs
You don't want to play by the Muslims' rules? Pay the taqiyya and become a dhimmi.

Note... al taqiyah is lying to the infidels to further the goals of Islam. Jizra is the tax on dhimmis.

495 posted on 06/28/2012 8:08:55 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Leep

It is no longer enough to win elections. We must utterly defeat them. Everywhere they are. We must make it a disgusting, shameful thing to be a Democrat. We must leave them with nothing.


496 posted on 06/28/2012 8:08:55 AM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: wk4bush2004

Pathetic Pelosi predicted that Roberts would vote with the libs....wonder who tipped her off? Roberts himself??


497 posted on 06/28/2012 8:09:17 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: redgolum; mickie
I'm just as interested in what Rush says today as I am about what Romney will say.

Rush should be passionate in righteous anger.....mealy-mouth won't do, Rush. You're about the only true conservative leader left, alas....

Leni

498 posted on 06/28/2012 8:09:17 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Windflier
Friend, THINK!

Where do we fight? Who do we fight?

Look around. Look at your neighbors. Listen to the coffee conversation.

There are lot more grasshoppers than ants. People don't want responsibility, they want to be slaves. They desire the safety of a prison where they are not held responsible for anything.

What happens even if we “win”? Look at the changes happening in Texas and N. Carolina for instance. The moochers out number the responsible.

499 posted on 06/28/2012 8:09:32 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Windcatcher

Look. I don’t know who you are...or who you think you are. I will not vote for Romney and you have no leg to stand on, in calling me a bigot, and further...quit pretending to have any holiness for yourself with your ***** to clean up your language.

By calling Christians bigots you show yourself to be a Marxist fool.

Do America a favor and educate yourself.


500 posted on 06/28/2012 8:09:35 AM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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