Posted on 06/22/2012 7:10:38 PM PDT by therightliveswithus
Jerry Sandusky, the former Assistant Coach for Penn State, was found guilty today of molesting children. The high-profile began last year when almost a dozen people came out, revealing that Sandusky has molested them, which then resulted in the firing of Penn State Head Coach Joe Paterno.
Sandusky was found guilty of at least some of the almost 50 that were levied against him. The jurors deliberated for two days, starting yesterday.
Sandusky leaving court earlier today
Sandusky's stepson also stated yesterday that his father had abused him. However, jurors were not aware of this as they were sequestered.
Sandusky faces up to 400 years in prison.
You wrote:
“EXCUSE ME?? You mean the Catholic Church is NOT a man-made sect.”
The Catholic Church is not a man-made sect. The Catholic Church was founded by Christ.
“If I recall my history correctly, the Roman Emperor Constantine wanted a unified system of religion to use for his statecraft.”
True, but the rest shows you do not recall history correctly:
“At that time there were a number of different branches of Christ believers.”
No. There was the Church and then there were sects of heretics or schismatics: Arians, for instance, did not believe in Jesus’ divinity; Donatists did not believe major sins could be forgiven after baptism.
“He basically said, get it together and come up with one Christianity for me to support politically. At Nicea after much arguing and counter-arguing the Nicean Creed was promulgated, making all other views heresies.”
No. The central belief of Arianism was ALWAYS a heresy. You cannot hold the belief Christ is NOT divine and be considered orthodox. Nicea merely defined that heresy and the orthodox doctrine.
“After much fighting both intellectual and physical, the church at Constantinople succeeded in overcoming the very important alternative church at Alexandria.”
False. It was, in fact, Alexandria which led the charge against Arianism. This effort was led by the great Catholic bishop of Alexandria, St. Athanasius. Again, you don’t know history.
“One result of this struggle was the move of some Alexandrian priests to Ethiopia where their form of Christianity has long persisted.”
Also, false. Christians already existed in Ethiopia. You are apparently confusing the rise of Coptic Christians (and Monophysitism) with Arians and Arianism. You’re off by a good century or two.
“Also the Coptic Christian Church followed by about 10% of Egyptians.”
Again, you are confusing the rise of Coptic Christians (and Monophysitism) with Arians and Arianism. Your history is a century or two off.
“Another result was the terrible, bloody destruction of the Albigensian heresy in southern France almost a thousand years later.”
Actually the destruction of the Albigensian heresy - which denied the Trinity, practiced ritual murder and undermined society - was a good thing. I’m not saying I like the fact that force was used, but I’m not losing sleep over it. The Albigensians, however, were violent and destabilized southern French society.
“The ONE TRUE CHURCH was thus the MAN MADE result of a political decision made by a powerful man, the Emperor Constantine.”
No. You present no facts to support that at all (which doesn’t surprise me). The Catholic Church existed BEFORE Constantine was born. Also, and you might not know this, Constantine did not even bother to make Christianity the official religion of the Empire. That happened 40 years after he died. Did you know that? Constantine did gain a great deal of control of a church - the Arian Church - which he championed AFTER Nicea since the Catholic Church rejected his attempts to control it.
“This kind of ignorant pridefulness is just the kind of thing that enables someone like Sandusky or the pedophile priests to justify their behavior.”
The pridefulness here is all yours. I am simply stating facts. You don’t seem to know what you’re talking about.
You just proved mine.
The word "children" implies that both boys and girls were molested. How many girls did this guy molest?
I think his wife knew all along
I’m just guessing but wouldn’t be surprized he married her for that very reason...That is she is probably some kind of a dingbat..probably very passive,too.
Oh yes. And in those cases, the father should protect the child, at any cost.
Too many women allow their boyfriends/sperm donors to abuse their child/children.
Too many women assist their b.f./sperm donors in the abuse of their child/children.
Useless, disgusting parents whether they be male or female.
Mrs. Sandusky should enjoy whatever it is she sacrificed her own son for, and all the children her husband raped. Hell has a spot for her, and she knows it.
I couldn’t stand to hear a dog be beaten, much less a child raped. She knew, and probably went shopping or out to eat.
Good, they should put him in the same cell with Mumia Jamal, they deserve each other. Old Medusa head would be begging the warden to go back on death row.
OTOH, we may agree on one thing FRiend—Christ IS, however His followers may behave, the one true religion.
Now look for him to convert to Islam.
You wrote:
“Your recalcitrant ignorance versus my obvious, except to the chronically obtuse, truth apparently has us at odds.”
You ignorantly oppose what is true. That is why we disagree.
“OTOH, we may agree on one thing FRiendChrist IS, however His followers may behave, the one true religion.”
Christ is God. He is not a religion. He is the reason for religion.
"Jerry Sandusky found GUILTY of molesting children boys"
The Lapdog Media will do everything in their power to divert from the fact that this was a HOMOSEXUAL issue.
To be honest, at his age he’ll probably be kept away from the general prison population. At least in Texas, there are less hazardous blocks reserved for the elderly.
Jesus of Nazareth is the son of God—the Greek word of Christ is a religious title (if you hollered “Hey Christ!” Jesus would not have turned around) afforded him by the early Christian sects so Jesus may not be a religion but “Christ” certainly is.
And perhaps you should research the many religions that preceded Christ about whether Christ was the reason for them.
The victims in court aren’t the ones who were pimped out. There are more out there.
I do not mean to imply that only Catholics are saved...HOWEVER....Christ came to earth with a purpose in mind. That purpose was to establish a new covenant with mankind and provide aa method whereby they might seek forgiveness for their own shortcomings as well as atone for the failure of mankind itself. He, through His disciples, started what has become the Roman Catholic church and He instructed all to follow His teachings and methods. All was fairly smooth for about 1,600 years and then along came "Reformers" who figured they they knew better than Christ and the disciples, how to form a religion. Instead of correcting any ills within the church, they decided to go off on their own systems and caused, over the centuries, millions of people to put their souls in jeopardy.
You can follow whatever leader you choose....as for me, I'll stick with the original plan, do my best to fulfill my responsibilities therein and use Christ's own words to have my sins forgiven...."whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them, whose sins you shall retain, they shall be retained".....sounds good to me....a promise from Christ ought to,at least, be considered. He also mentioned something about being with His church until the end of time and did not mention heving a bunch of helpers spring up l,600 years later!!!
yes. There is only one true religion, I'd take a chance on the one that Christ Himself founded.
of course, you could try Mohammed and his crowd...I guess.
We are responsible for ourselves and any offspring—(Freedom). It is the duty of all parents to raise and nurture their offspring. (All studies have found that biological parents are the safest for children—both physically and emotionally. The genetic factor creates a probability of concern higher than if no genetic link with maternal instinct and father protective instincts).
Orphanages were always horrid places for children with ton of abuse and killings. Non parent custodial situations always have high abuse levels.
Government can never protect all people or children. It is true-—if the populace is non-Virtuous-—there can be no freedom. Government would have to intervene in all areas.
Government has limited duties-—and it is not parenting or interfering with the ideology of the parents and their right to raise their own children with their own ideology. It is the fundamental meaning of freedom.
Government should encourage Virtue in all areas through Rule of Law (Justice which is a Virtue). All government laws should encourage parents to do their Duty (Natural Law Theory) and that includes no welfare, socialist state which creates dependent, immature, immoral people. It also means getting rid of no-fault divorce which destroys the marriage contract-—the laws have to create for the general welfare a situation which rewards people who take care of their own progeny and discourages out of wedlock births—etc.—Vice can never be supported or encouraged by Just Law.
Will some children get damaged and abused by their parents. Yes. It is human nature-—but it is far safer for children to be cared for by their own family than strangers who don’t have a genetic interest in their future.
It is not the job of government to educate the children-—that belongs to the parents and the government needs to get out of the way and create Just Law which rewards the Good and discourages Evil.
J.S.Mill said-—never allow government into the schools-—their only purpose would be to make slaves for the State. (That is what the ACORN goons and OWS thugs are——ignorant drones blindly following orders). Same with all the Democrats popping out of university brainwashing sewers-—they have no intellectual development—know none of Plato, Socrates, Hayek, Locke, Hegel, Marx-—they understand NOTHING so they can think logically. They are stupid—useful idiots.
I believe I read somewhere that pedophiles are the worst of the worst in prison. Just around rapists. You have to feel sorry (in a way - despicable a person that he is) that he’ll have to be isolated for the rest of his life.
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