Posted on 06/19/2012 12:04:11 PM PDT by STARWISE
A Florida judge is taking up a national complaint.
The so-called "birthers" are suing to get President Barack Obama's name off the November ballot in Florida. That group doesn't believe the Commander in Chief's birth certificate.
But in a hearing Monday, attorney Larry Klayman told a judge Obama's birth certificate isn't the only issue; the President's father, Barack Obama Sr., was never an American citizen.
Klayman argued that fact alone means the President isn't a 'natural born citizen' and, under the Constitution, can't run for re-election.
The framers wanted a situation where the President, in terms of his background, in terms of his links to the United States, wanted someone who was born in this territory to two citizen parents, said Klayman.
Obama administration lawyer Mark Herron calls that ridiculous. He says nowhere in the Constitution does it say a 'natural born citizen' has to have American-born parents.
Those statements conflict with the United States Supreme Court opinions, as well as other opinions of other courts who have considered this issue, Herron said.
Erin Sullivan traveled all the way from Manatee County to witness the hearing.
His father was not an American citizen, not at any time, she said. It's not even a question of whether it was after he was born. He was never an American citizen, and Mr. Obama's not qualified to be President of the United States.
The suit describes plaintiff Michael Voeltz, as being a registered Democrat.
A final decision on the case could come as early as this week.
AMEN!
Full Hearing Video (scroll up to 03:15 to begin video) Video - NBC's WPTV-5: Florida Obama Ballot Access Challenge Hearing Coverage (and Larry Klayman)
..Ping!
I can only hope that those that were sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States will do so.
Blessings, Bobo
Under our Constitution, a naturalized citizen stands on an equal footing with the native citizen in all respects save that of eligibility to the Presidency. Minor v. Happersett, 21 Wall. 162, 88 U. S. 165; Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U. S. 94, 112 U. S. 101; Osborn v. Bank of United States, 9 Wheat. 738, 22 U. S. 827.
His father was not an American citizen, not at any time,
He was if his father was Malcolm X, which is why I think they have kept all of Bozo’s information hidden including his BC!
Hmm, first time an msm reporter seems to have written an accurate account of court proceedings regarding this. Maybe just a decent reporter for once, or maybe they’re starting to sweat and take it seriously.
Gee, I hadn’t heard of Minor v. Happersett.
But HI State Registrar Alvin Onaka in an official communication just indirectly confirmed to AZ SOS Ken Bennett that they have NO legally-valid birth record for Obama whatsoever.
So whatever BC Obama used his whole life - regardless of who was listed as the papa - was from someplace besides Hawaii.
Deep, deep doo-doo.
http://www.coachisright.com/howd-you-like-a-nice-hawaiian-sucker-punch/
That'd get him 98% of the black vote. Of course it'd lose him 98 % of the white vote.
Seems like a logical reason to withhold his REAL BC!
His real BC is not from Hawaii. The HI State Registrar indirectly confirmed that they have no legally-valid birth record for Obama in Hawaii.
http://www.coachisright.com/howd-you-like-a-nice-hawaiian-sucker-punch/
Yes.
And from the article:
Obama administration lawyer Mark Herron calls that ridiculous. He says nowhere in the Constitution does it say a 'natural born citizen' has to have American-born parents.
It also doesn't say abortion or ObamaCare is a right too. Herron lives up to his name as in Red Herr[on]ing. In his final statement to the judge, he said, you can ignore the old "treatise" and to similar effect.
Translation- judge ignore all the Supreme Court opinions.
The father of record is the Kenyan bigamist. THAT is the legal controling point, so it is really just an exercise in diversionary rabbit holes to argue over the sperm donor. Little barry bastard commie is not a natural born citizen according to the way the SCOTUS has used that term in the past. The current pirate Roberts court is avoiding the issue, as instructed, so the only way We The People have left to remove this treacherous commie is to vote him out with all his entourage of thugs. The democrat party should be driven from politics for their treachery, their treasonous work in placing a known non-eligible lying commie in office. Just remember when the collapse comes that it is directly appointable to the democrat party and their leadership, sustained by the foolish idiocy of democrap voters.
No it doesn't Red Herring.
When the discussion begins with “Because it was not defined in the Constitution...” the public is being played. The Constitution does not include definitions, with but one borderline refinement of the term “treason.” As Chief Justice Waite, among many justices and principal framer James Madison explained, "At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar..." No coherent legal Supreme Court reinterpretation of Chief Justice Waite's Minor v. Happersett exists. To his credit, Klayman cites the postive law source, though one can clearly cite Chief Justice Marshall, Chief Justice Jay, Chief Justice Hughes, 14th Amendment Bingham, and dozens of other cases. Jefferson made Vattel our first law book at our first law school, at William and Mary in 1779. Minor v. Happersett: "It was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens..."
We at FR have probably seen the whole playbook from the Anita Dunn gang in the White House, from mis-citing Wong Kim Ark, to obscure state court decisions. Federal judges too have become a sad joke, showing the real result of the political patronage at the core of our judicial system. Law is what the mandarins make it. Black robes are not enough. Our legal system is a corrupt mess. Our party system, including the Republicans, who are pounding the big lie by promoting Rubio, are corrupt as well, but don't have the police, justice department or IRS to quiet free speech.
I don't know what legal problems Klayman has had in the past, but am betting we will soon learn.
Because his mother was a foreigner and he was born in another country and his name is not legally BHO.
I keep wondering that, with every SoS or other official challenger drops their challenge,
did the Hawaii SoS simply show them that BO’s father is not officially who BO says he was, and was an actual citizen, but one that would be politically detrimental to come clean about.
What I found hilarious (and telling), was that 0bama’s lawyers didn’t want to address the substance of the issue,
but were arguing that Klayman didn’t have any reason to be in court over this because ‘bammers wasn’t yet officially the democrat candidate in Florida.
The HI State Registrar confirmed to Ken Bennett that the claims on the posted long-form BC are the same claims as on their official record. But because he refused to verify any of the claims on Bennett’s verification request form, Onaka indirectly confirmed that the record they have for Obama is NOT LEGALLY VALID.
Presumably because it is late and altered. Obama’s people had to forge both the COLB and the long-form in order to remove the signs of the document’s legal non-validity, which are required to be on the official document.
Hawaii can’t say when, where, or to whom Obama was born because the record they have is too questionable for them to be able to vouch for its claims - as per Hawaii statute.
I know .. it’s beyond absurd ..
Like, we have to pass the bill to see
what is in it .... DUH
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“Fighting to recapture the magic of his history-making 2008 campaign, President Barack Obama on Saturday laid out his fullest-yet case for reelection, pleading with struggling Americans to “keep believing in me” and hitting out at presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney.
“If people ask you what this campaign is about, you tell them ‘it’s still about hope.’ You tell them ‘it’s still about change,’” he told a cheering mass of supporters at Ohio State University in Columbus, six months and one day before the election. “I still believe in you. And I’m asking you to keep believing in me.”
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-pleads-rally-m-asking-keep-believing-192210483.html
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