Posted on 06/18/2012 8:18:19 AM PDT by Brown Deer
The video of today’s hearing ...
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Judge questioned Klayman can’t a political party put anyone they want on the ballot?
How did Obama even get CONSIDERED to be on the ballot? Did somebody fill out a form and/or pay some money? If so, what did the form say?
Adobe Flash Player messes up my computer so I’m not able to see this right now. Who testified that he was born outside of the US, and on the basis of what evidence? Did Arpaio testify?
Florida’s primary is over with already.
PRIMARY January 31, 2012
President Barack Obama, who is running uncontested in most states for the 2012 Democratic presidential nomination, has captured enough delegates to become the party’s presumptive nominee, according to a CNN estimate.
Democratic Party presidential primaries, 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2012
The 2012 Democratic presidential primaries and caucuses is the selection process by which voters of the Democratic Party will choose its nominee for President of the United States in the 2012 U.S. presidential election. Incumbent President Barack Obama won the Democratic Party nomination by securing more than the required 2778 delegates on April 3, 2012 after a series of primary elections and caucuses that will officially culminate with the 2012 Democratic National Convention held September 3–6, in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Apparently it was the National Dem party that put Obama on th FL ballot. Judge pushed - How do you get on the ballot if you're not the nominee from FL?
Here is jdirt’s post from this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2896532/posts
The Judge clearly asked the plaintiff’s attorney, Mr. Klayman, that if I grant you leave to amend your complaint, will you be providing something that shows Obama was not born in the US?
And Klayman said YES.
The Dem National Party ONLY put Obama on the FL ballot without Florida getting a say so for anyone else.
And Klayman said YES.
Yes he did. Maybe twice.
Apparently it was the National Dem party that put Obama on th FL ballot. Judge pushed - How do you get on the ballot if you’re not the nominee from FL?
Parsing words - a liberal disease.
The DNC can’t put anybody they want on their ballot - not if they’re going to follow their own by-laws.
The issue is what the Secretary of State will do if (since) the DNC clearly violated their bylaws by nominating somebody who was known (by the DNC’s own process set in place, actually) to not be eligible. San Fran Nan had to sign a statement of Obama’s eligibility for Hawaii because the Hawaii Democratic Party refused to certify that. The claims by the DNC people in 2008 were that the state parties are the ones who are supposed to check out eligibility. That could be part of the reason that Hawaii law requires the state party to sign off on the national party’s candidate being the STATE PARTY’s candidate as well. Interestingly enough, the OCON for the Hawaii Democratic Party never did actually state that Obama was THEIR candidate. He should never have been on the HI ballot because he lacked the HDP statement required by HI law.
And for the dem party in the state that supposedly has the birth records .... to refuse to even sign off on Obama as their candidate as required by law.... leaves San Fran Nan with NO EXCUSE.
What actually needs to happen is San Fran Nan needs to be thrown in jail, along with a bunch of other people.
The judge needs to realize that if the DNC nominates somebody who is ineligible they are committing fraud and perjury, because their nominations are required to certify that the candidate was DULY NOMINATED, and part of that nomination process that has to be followed in order to use the word “duly” is ensuring that the candidate is eligible, per the DNC bylaws.
So the answer to the judge’s question is that they can only nominate whoever they want if they are willing to perjure themselves. But if they perjure themselves, does the Secretary of State still have a duty to keep the oath he/she swore to protect and defend the US Constitution?
I presume that this judge took the same oath at some point...
They did that for the general election already, or was that for the FL primary?
That takes on special significance given that Arpaio and Zullo both submitted affidavits for this case. I’m wondering if they waited with this, to include it in an amendment to the complaint, because it’s something that surfaced through Zullo’s visit to Hawaii.
I think it was originally for the primary.
When will we know what the evidence will be that Klayman claims he has? If he has evidence that BHO was born outside the USofA, why didn’t he present it to the court?
Yes, that's the way I heard it go down. OBots are sweating this one. You can tell how many lawyers they put in the court house to oppose and on the phone! LoL.
lol. I’m sure Obama’s lawyers did want the whole thing dismissed before Klayman could submit evidence that Obama was born outside of the US...
They sure as heck aren’t willing to submit evidence to the contrary, so whatever Klayman submits would be the sum total of the evidence available to the court.
And any thinking person has to ask “Why?”
Why is Obama lawyering up and fighting, when he supposedly has a certified copy of his birth certificate that he could show to finish all the questions of birthplace instantly, and if the rulings are so clear on NBC?
What possible reason can the lawyers give for putting in the man-hours to fight, rather than simply showing the documentation and being done with it? They could have submitted whatever evidence they wanted. Why won’t they submit anything? What do they claim for their excuse?
This is HUGH and I am SERIES!
Oh, boy, there could be any combination of items, such as the missing flight manifest, the Catholic Relief Society [or such} of Connecticut filing for SSN stating that zippy is a foreign national, divorce decree document (would not THAT be ironic, given that Obama used a copy of one to eliminate his opponent in an Illinois state senate race?), further affadavits from knowledgeable individuals, the masters degree thesis by the Hawaii vital records clerk (Tim something-or-other), public statements by Gov Neil Abercrombie, etc, etc, or maybe even something they got handed by an anonymous person in Hawaii during Zullo's visit there!
I am going to Costco to buy economy-sized boxes of butter and Orville Redenbacher's microwave popcorn!!
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.