Posted on 06/15/2012 8:14:40 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
Okay, maybe that wasnt the best metaphor, but he fumbled an important opportunity. The problem with the presidents amnesty decree is not that it makes it more difficult to reach that long-term solution because an executive order is, of course, just a short-term matter it can be reversed by subsequent presidents. The problem is that its u-n-c-o-n-s-t-i-t-u-t-i-o-n-a-l. You would expect Allen West and Steve King to be forceful in denouncing this usurpation, but even Amnesty John McCain and Rick you dont have a heart Perry were strong. Heck, Lindsey Graham Lindsey Graham denounced the move as possibly illegal. And the fact that Romney didnt answer when asked if hed reverse the order is an especially bad sign.
I know all those whove been accusing me of being in the tank for Romney will say I told you so, but my distress isnt really about his views on the policy issue at hand he seemed to endorse Rubios as-yet-not-introduced revision of the DREAM Act, which Im pretty sure I wont like. Im appalled because this is a fundamental matter of our political order
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THAT is news for you?
No, it's not news to me. Until your last reply, it sure appeared as though it was to you.
I'm going to end off here, because you've finally acknowledged the point I was making. That, and the fact that I have no idea what point you're trying to make. All I get, is you're defending Romney for some reason.
The man is not defensible. Not in any way.
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Well a Bush should know.
His brother GWB managed to become the gift to Dems that Carter was to Republicans for 15 years. Now few remember Carter but many remember GWB. "Don't elect a Republican because he will be like Bush" is a safe line.
You see any Republicans running for election claiming they are like GWB?
Jeb should stick to FLA.
what would Reagan say?
Well.... There he goes again..
Dang..I thought I had already conceded that we will never agree. :)
You are going back to the late 1980’s and saying what we should have done. You may want to remember that alternative media was not the norm in the ‘80’s. Most people listened to what was on the msm or during debates. Some sought out facts, but most did not. Any more than they do today.
You really can’t change the past. It’s like saying...If I hadn’t gone to the store in 1980-1990-2000 I wouldn’t have had that car wreck. Hindsight is always 20-20.
Is the Repub Party trying to trac to the left? Absolutely. But I also see new blood being infused. Siesmic change will not happen over night..but I see things changing.
The Dems run hard core idealogues that promise to give the “gimme crowd” more stuff.
If you want to choose this election cycle to “put your foot down” have at it. Given your own argument, you should have done that long ago.
I am not happy with Romney. But I refuse to put my foot down when this country is in peril from a socialistic want to be dictator’s second term.
I assume you have a solution that is viable in the next five months. Hence your passion.
Oh...another discussion on illegals and borders?
How nice!
Is this discussion # 8,960,127,401?
After 25 years of Americans voting, begging, protesting, screaming, petitioning, volunteering for relief of this violent government sponsored gang rape of our country, as hundreds of thousands of innocent Americans have been ran over by illegal drunks, killed, robbed, raped, murdered, shot, knifed, defrauded and burglarize......
Now we can all sit around for the billionth time and politely discuss multiple millions of disrespectful Mexicans entering our country illegally, as they literally choke off our schools, hospitals, jails, classrooms, social services, jobs, you name it!
You're joking right Mr. Ramjet?
I assume you have a solution that is viable in the next five months. Hence your passion.
Actually, I do have a solution, but it's one that would require a great deal of courage, persistence, intention, and sheer cussedness, on the part of a few million stout hearted patriots to pull off.
I have little hope that my idea will be organized or executed within the next five months, so that leaves us with no alternative but to watch as one of the leading Socialists wins the election, then begin Resisting the elected's leftist agenda with everything we've got.
After the 'election', it's my hope that Free Republic will play a major role in that Resistance.
Oh My Gosh, Windflier..
I think we may agree on a course of action. :)
Kewl :-)
Love it when I meet minds with a fellow patriot!
Okay, you’ve crystallized an effect. So what is your recommendation?
What is more important? A signed pledge or loyalty to America? The delegates still could and should take command and do the RIGHT thing.
Palin 2012. She would win easily. We need to let the delegates that we will have their back.
Sarah’s not running.
What is America if people lie and break their word?
Well put!!!!!!
LLS
Oh...another discussion on illegals and borders?
How nice!
Is this discussion # 8,960,127,401?
After 25 years of Americans voting, begging, protesting, screaming, petitioning, volunteering for relief of this violent government sponsored gang rape of our country, as hundreds of thousands of innocent Americans have been ran over by illegal drunks, killed, robbed, raped, murdered, shot, knifed, defrauded and burglarize......
Now we can all sit around for the billionth time and politely discuss multiple millions of disrespectful Mexicans entering our country illegally, as they literally choke off our schools, hospitals, jails, classrooms, social services, jobs, you name it!
You're joking right Mr. Ramjet?
Okay, youve crystallized an effect. So what is your recommendation?
Now you want to politely discuss the solutions?
You live in a cave?
They've been discussed 304,895,945 times.
Tell ya what Ramjet, take the next 16 weeks, and review the threads on this site alone for thousands of common sense solutions.
Then you can spend the next 5 years on other sites and review those common sense solutions as well.
BTW slick, based on your juvenile Pollyanna comments, it probably never occurred to you, your corrupt government has no intention of securing our lawless violent borders. It's why this lawlessness has been going on so many damn years.
What a surprise huh?
I was probably too harsh, which I regret. Look, if ya tell me yours, I’ll tell you if it’s already been put forth/suggested 1k times. This could streamline and expedite this exchange substantially.
Politics is the art of the possible. Might as well get with reality. Romney is the nominee and will be until November.
Great idea. Make himself an object of scorn and ridicule before he is even officially nominated. Yeah that'll work like a charm.
Good lord, friend. You're advocating the standard operating procedures of old, which have done nothing but allow (maybe even cause) the continued erosion of our constitutional system of government, and the unchecked leftward drift of the Republican party.
Have you not noticed there's a rebellion going on, and that the American people are DEMANDING a sharp turn to the right, and voting for candidates who show backbone and the resolve to do that?
Look to the results of the 2010 midterms for guidance, if you need a refresher. If that's too deep in the bowels of ancient history, then look no further than the results of the Wisconsin recall election, or the two anti-union initiatives which just passed in California. If the states are the 'laboratories of democracy', then review all of the many pro-American, pro-family, pro-gun, common sense legislative accomplishments of the conservative right over the last two years.
Conversely, look to all of the recent defeats and collapse on the Democrat side for evidence of what I'm talking about. They're just barely holding their ground in the bluest of blue areas of the country. Just barely. The tide has shifted, and any candidate worth a lick, understands that, and is positioning himself in front of that wave of citizen discontent.
To do otherwise, is to signal to the people that you're committed to maintaining the status quo, and that you've already been compromised by the old guard elites.
Romney is already proving that he's guilty of both.
Don’t the votes this year in the primary mean anything?
Yeah, they do. They're a terrible indictment of those who made them.
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