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Microsoft reinvents the wheel with Windows 8
Marketwatch ^ | 06/03/2012 | John C. Dvorak

Posted on 06/03/2012 7:30:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

BERKELEY, Calif. (MarketWatch) — I am writing this review on a computer that runs Windows Vista. It’s not that bad.

Generally speaking, I like Microsoft Corp. MSFT -2.54% and what it has done. Over the years, I’ve even supported the idea that Microsoft’s Bob interface was mismarketed and actually was unique and interesting.

That said, Windows 8 looks to me to be an unmitigated disaster that could decidedly hurt the company and its future.

This opinion is based on using the new release candidate beta that is pretty much what will finally ship after some bug fixes.

It’s not that the product out-and-out stinks. It is refreshingly slick-looking and modern, albeit without any charm whatsoever.

The real problem is that it is both unusable and annoying. It makes your teeth itch as you keep asking, “Why are they doing this!?”

First of all, the system-software product is mostly divorced from all the thought and trends developed by Windows over the years, as if to say that they were wrong the whole time, so let’s try something altogether new.

No business will tolerate this software, let me assure you. As a productivity tool, it is unusable.

Most applications cannot even be scaled down and so take up the whole screen. To even get out of these “apps,” you have to ram the cursor down into the lower left corner and click. That puts you back onto the vapid “Metro” start screen, where you can begin another miserable adventure.

Do you work on a huge 27-inch or bigger monitor? You know, so you have room to organize your programs and files? Well, imagine everything running full screen on that. It’s a joke.

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1 posted on 06/03/2012 7:30:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Not a fan of the Metro-sexual thing they are pushing on their customers. I really don't see windows 8 working out in the business environment with the stupid metro-sexual start screen with colored blocks that resemble the romper room area in certain McDonalds restaurants, which is supposedly good as a touch screen interface. Do you want your next start screen to look like this?

Then they stupidly made no way of reverting that atrocity to the classic start menu and unless there is a revision to be made in the release candidate version, there will be no classic interface.

2 posted on 06/03/2012 7:36:21 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: SeekAndFind

After XP it’s been all downhill.


3 posted on 06/03/2012 7:37:45 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SeekAndFind
makes your teeth itch

Hate it when my teeth itch.

4 posted on 06/03/2012 7:38:10 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Blue Highway

One other gripe is you need to have a live.com or hotmail.com email account, and before getting to the metro sexual screen you need to log in to your email account.


5 posted on 06/03/2012 7:38:21 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

One other gripe is you need to have a live.com or hotmail.com email account, and before getting to the metro sexual screen you need to log in to your email account every time you reboot the computer.


6 posted on 06/03/2012 7:38:40 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: SeekAndFind

This review sounds a bit over the top.

However I can easily believe that MS has (like General Motors and many others) become too big, too bloated, too inbred, too political, too sure that they understand what the customer wants.


7 posted on 06/03/2012 7:39:04 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Blue Highway

That appears to be a completely useless OS. MS still has the bad assumption that people use their bloatware instead of their own programs. I’m sure each of those blocks work with their own bloatware; IE, Media Player, Gaming Center, MSN Messenger, yadda yadda... For most other people who don’t use their programs, it will probably be a headache to use them around these pods.


8 posted on 06/03/2012 7:40:39 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Blue Highway

No more anonymity is the reason for the email login.


9 posted on 06/03/2012 7:41:45 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Terrible article. Usually Dvorak is pretty good.


10 posted on 06/03/2012 7:41:45 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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This article mirrors what other reviewers have said. When closing programs is a challenge, you know this is destined for the trash heap.


11 posted on 06/03/2012 7:44:30 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Blue Highway

I’ll stay with WIN-7 Pro as long as I possibly can w-wo/support, since it’s as good or better than XP Pro was (IMO), and then go to a Mac or Linux. Screw MS and this Win-8 crap BS.


12 posted on 06/03/2012 7:44:49 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (All liberals & most demoncraps think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It seems that the creators of all major operating systems are hell-bent on destroying the user experience, or at least dumb it down so Justin Bieber fans can use it efficiently.

Apple is going to make their Mac interfaces like IOS (think Ipod and Iphone).

Ubuntu already released Unity, which is difficult to use and makes no sense on a computer with a bigger screen.

Now Windows is making a PlaySkool interface.

At least we still have XFCE in Linux. As lacking as it is, I can at least make it do most of what I want.


13 posted on 06/03/2012 7:47:42 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
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John C. Dvorak again huh?
Been reading stuff from him for over 15 years from the various ZDNET magazines (PC mag etc), and off the top of my head, I don't remember a single time he has made much sense or been right on any major issue. Dvorak will always be Dvorak, an attention seeking individual with his own private demons.
From the same Marketwatch:

Microsoft could change tablet game with Windows 8: analysts

“Our survey suggests 25% of users expect to buy Windows 8 tablet and Office is a key feature, especially for those considering their first tablet purchase,” the note said.

Given Microsoft’s strong position in consumer and business PCs, they added, “Microsoft’s Windows 8 with Office could become the second largest tablet platform,””

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2012/06/01/microsoft-could-change-tablet-game-with-windows-8-analysts/

14 posted on 06/03/2012 7:54:26 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SeekAndFind

Microsoft has done this for years, follow a great operating system with one that stinks. Anyone remember Windows ME or Vista? I held out on adopting Windows until Win 3.1 and still griped about having to manually integrate third party Winsock and TCP/IP stacks so I could get on the Internet. I held on to my Win98SE through WinME until Windows XP came out. I held on to Win XP until Win 7 came out. This is in fact my first Win 7 machine. I ordered my Dell Vostro with Win XP several years ago. At the time it was still a free “downgrade” available for people who needed compatibility with corporate software. They’ll shoot themselves in the foot with Win 8, realize they are losing sales, and try to do better with Win 9. I will probably keep my 64 bit Win 7 as long as possible.


15 posted on 06/03/2012 7:54:57 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: SeekAndFind

I liked XP, hated Vista and love 7.

If this is what 8 is like, I’ll pass.


16 posted on 06/03/2012 7:56:00 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Worst. President. Ever.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The usual Microsoft is going to die claptrap.

Until they don’t, then the little choir of Apple/Linux loudmouths will go back under their bridges like they did after they said Windows7 was terrible.


17 posted on 06/03/2012 7:56:06 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm STILL supporting Newt.)
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To: Dick Vomer

Bill Gates = your personal “Big Brother”!


18 posted on 06/03/2012 7:57:01 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

Uh oh....Vista II in the making


19 posted on 06/03/2012 7:57:09 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s just an opinion, so mine is every bit as valid as yours or the next guy, but I believe the Win8 OS will be well received as it is targeted at the tablet and mobile user, even if the desktop user will see very little benefit from this OS.

Take for example the complaint Dvorak makes about the screen real estate on his 27” monitor example:

“Do you work on a huge 27-inch or bigger monitor? You know, so you have room to organize your programs and files? Well, imagine everything running full screen on that. It’s a joke.”

Well, this OS is not meant to enhance the desktop user’s experience, but instead a tablet users interface (how often do you muti-task via two apps at once on a tablet or a phone?) I manage resources in the IT industry, and I can speak from personal observation that there are a lot of the younger, constantly connected mobile (CCM) users who are very interested in this OS. Many are Android devotees so there is some substance here to Microsoft’s approach.

The general thinking is that the Win8 OS might be, in fact, a game-changer for MS in that they may end up suddenly dominating the non-Apple table OS market.


20 posted on 06/03/2012 7:57:35 AM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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