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Oil Down Sharply; Gold Up Sharply (Brent Crude Falls Below $100/bl)
oil-price.net ^ | 06-01-2012 | OrangeHoof

Posted on 06/01/2012 7:38:25 AM PDT by OrangeHoof

As of 10 a.m. EDT Friday

WTI Crude Oil: $83.90/bl - down $2.83 - down 3.04% Brent Crude Oil: $98.96/bl - down $2.87 - down 2.82% Gold: $1614.02 - up 3.48%

Brent Crude (European) oil was over $110/bl just a month or so ago while WTI Crude (West Texas) was above $105/bl not that long ago.


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KEYWORDS: brent; gold; oil; wti
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The price of gold had been falling with them but today we are seeing a major spike up in the price of gold. This could be a sign that major investors are trying to get their money out of harm's way and into the relative security of precious metals.

Now, I'm not one of these "gold bugs" and the price of gold had been up over $1700 last winter and is only now climbing back to $1600 so it is not foolproof but it seems a better hedge against market collapse than almost anything else out there.

Certainly, the price of oil was in for a major correction. Middle East fears did not pan out and the speculative price was way too high. But, combined with bad unemployment news, stocks tanking and what appears to be a stall in the global economy (or worse), it is noteworthy to see Gold's spike today in tandem with losses in almost every other sector.

What's newsworthy today is that European crude has fallen below $100/bl, following the lead of American oil which had crossed that threshhold a few weeks ago.

1 posted on 06/01/2012 7:38:30 AM PDT by OrangeHoof
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To: OrangeHoof

I seen this oil crash acomin wen Grease collapsed.

Aint oil made frum Grease?

Or is it the other way around?

This high finance is so complicated!


2 posted on 06/01/2012 7:52:26 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: OrangeHoof

The reduction in crude prices will have a tremendous positive effect on the economy, and should counter some of the negatives we’re now seeing.

The price of crude is now 77% of its peak price of $110 per barrel. This will act similar to what a 23% tax cut would do for the economy. Should affect everything we buy, including food.

We’ll see below $3 regular soon. I’m not saying things will boom, just that there’s enough good here to counter some of the bad. The bad news for Obama is that the drop is not supply driven, no way he can take credit, unless you consider the fact that demand is in the tank because of his horrible economic policies. I think the slide in crude continues, may get below $70.


3 posted on 06/01/2012 7:53:09 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: OrangeHoof

Don’t worry, we are lineing up to play whack a mole with Syria.

That should drive oil up.


4 posted on 06/01/2012 7:55:02 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

Gas for regular is still over $4.00 here in so cal...


5 posted on 06/01/2012 7:57:34 AM PDT by JoanneSD (TEA PARTY VERSES TEE TIME)
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To: wayoverontheright
"The bad news for Obama is that the drop is not supply driven, no way he can take credit..."

I agree 100%, but he will take credit anyway.

6 posted on 06/01/2012 7:58:05 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Today if you invent a better mousetrap, the government comes along with a better mouse. RReagan)
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To: JoanneSD

I paid $3.56 in Waterford, MI yesterday.


7 posted on 06/01/2012 7:59:46 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Today if you invent a better mousetrap, the government comes along with a better mouse. RReagan)
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To: wayoverontheright

I agree with you that falling oil prices is a good thing (and I expect Obama to take credit for it at some point) but it may not turn around the economy. We saw gas prices fall last late summer/autumn and it didn’t help the economy all that much although it probably did help consumers.

Trucking companies, in particular, are helped by lower fuel prices and when those go down, the market also corrects.

But oil was artificially way too high and this is a good correction.


8 posted on 06/01/2012 8:00:42 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Mich Patriot

$3.18 here in Baton Rouge, La.


9 posted on 06/01/2012 8:06:54 AM PDT by mothball
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To: Mich Patriot

Here in the lib state of CT, I paid $3.86, and that was the lowest out of four stations! The sheep just put the gas in the tank and don’t even ask why? Guess we all know why, lower prices, lower taxes. Gov. Malloy won’t stop that but will pay $27 million on tourist commercials. Hey Gov, how about lowing our gas prices and maybe someone will come to visit!


10 posted on 06/01/2012 8:07:27 AM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kaffir!)
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To: OrangeHoof; theBuckwheat; GladesGuru; Joe Brower
Now, I'm not one of these "gold bugs" and the price of gold had been up over $1700 last winter and is only now climbing back to $1600 so it is not foolproof but it seems a better hedge against market collapse than almost anything else out there.

I am seeing the flight to gold as a positive feedback abetting the likelihood of market collapse. Parking wealth in gold retracts investment in productive assets, wherein their market price collapses and ROI with it. Hoarding reduces money velocity. Stored gold produces nothing. This flight from real investment is a curious byproduct of a usurious economy that necessarily inflates the money stock, where the eventual fear of dilution induces an inevitable collapse. Wars and revolutions follow. People steal gold in wars.

Maybe our money is better stored in lead.

11 posted on 06/01/2012 8:47:44 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There has not been a conservative American government for 90 years.)
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To: OrangeHoof; Terry Mross
This 3% rise in PM prices in four hours, right after a sharp little drop looks like a sharp Cartel buying of precious metals, coupled with panicky covering by speculative shorts who've been sucked in over the last few months. The poor BSLB report (or whatever the acronym is) is just the excuse - this has been planned for a long time.

JPM have steadily reduced their once-massive short position in silver to a low level, and now I think they're buying in quantity. Ditto for HSBC and gold.

12 posted on 06/01/2012 8:53:50 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: OrangeHoof

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13 posted on 06/01/2012 9:00:25 AM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: Carry_Okie
I am seeing the flight to gold as a positive feedback abetting the likelihood of market collapse. Parking wealth in gold retracts investment in productive assets, wherein their market price collapses and ROI with it. Hoarding reduces money velocity. Stored gold produces nothing. This flight from real investment is a curious byproduct of a usurious economy that necessarily inflates the money stock, where the eventual fear of dilution induces an inevitable collapse. Wars and revolutions follow. People steal gold in wars.

Very astute post. You have a keen grasp of the financial/social dynamic now unfolding. But storing gold does produce one thing: a sense of security. There is no better way to preserve your wealth than in precious metals -- especially in the age of eroding fiat. It is more an insurance policy than an investment.

14 posted on 06/01/2012 9:17:23 AM PDT by Blennos
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You have a keen grasp of the financial/social dynamic now unfolding.

I got it while writing this book.

But storing gold does produce one thing: a sense of security.

I'll repeat the last two sentences in the prior post:

Wars and revolutions follow. People steal gold in wars.

IOW, it's a false sense of security. True security arises out of relationships, with the land and its people. That or its lack is what produce G_d's promised consequences in Leviticus 26. I can explain them line by line. There's no mystery in it at all. It is His way or ours, social, economic, environmental, and military stability, or not.

15 posted on 06/01/2012 10:02:46 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There has not been a conservative American government for 90 years.)
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To: OrangeHoof
WTI Crude Oil: $83.90/bl

Too bad gas prices are pretty much disconnected from BBL price these days. You can always bet on dropping oil prices in the run up to a presidential election.

16 posted on 06/01/2012 12:34:54 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: mothball

I need to come see my folks in BR. I paid $4.43 yesterday in Anchorage.


17 posted on 06/01/2012 1:19:14 PM PDT by strongbow
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To: Carry_Okie

People and governments steal in time of war. Gold is easy to hide, move, and trade. Investment in high tech lead is also a wise investment. Careful lead investments, especially delivery system investment makes retention of ones assets more probable.

Given the likelihood of collapse due to generations of commies in entrenched in agencies beyond number, and unions communized and rapacious beyond description, and an electorate so debased by generations of brainwashing in the Pooblik Skool Collective, I have grave doubts that there is enough of the Republic to save itself.

In any case, having relatives who were not able or willing to defend themselves against a government gone seriously bad (it made soap of them), I suggest that as the Founders and generations of Americans after them, we must accept that we may be forced to defend our families and our property.

The spirit of King George is stalking our land again.


18 posted on 06/01/2012 3:19:54 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: GladesGuru
Gold is easy to hide, move, and trade.

Consider the amount of gold that was stolen during WWII.

The spirit of King George is stalking our land again.

King George was a sweetheart compared to the people we are facing.

19 posted on 06/01/2012 3:24:15 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: redgolum

“Don’t worry, we are lineing up to play whack a mole with Syria.

That should drive oil up.”

Possibility that the Saudi’s will destroy the Iranians (their hereditary enemies) by lowering the price of oil until Iran collapses.


20 posted on 06/01/2012 3:24:24 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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