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Arizona official to Hawaii: Show birth verification
WND ^ | May 16, 2012 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 05/17/2012 7:34:20 AM PDT by Smokeyblue

A state official in Arizona has asked Hawaii for verification of the information on Barack Obama’s birth certificate, the document that Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s special investigative team has concluded may be a forgery.

Members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party, who petitioned Arpaio to investigate Obama’s eligibility, say they are awaiting word from the state secretary of state regarding whether Obama’s name will be on the 2012 presidential ballot in Arizona.

Secretary of State Ken Bennett had promised to ask Hawaii officials for verification of Obama’s documentation, vowing that if answers are not forthcoming, Obama’s name will not be on the ballot.

The assurance came in an email to various constituents in Arizona who had contacted Bennett’s office expressing concern that the name of an ineligible candidate would be presented to voters in November.

“Because of the importance and profile of the president’s case, and at the request of many constituents, I have gone the extra step of asking the state of Hawaii to verify the facts contained in his birth certificate,” Bennett wrote in response to concerns last month. “Hawaii is bound by their own statutes to provide such verifications to other state officials in their official duties.

“With all due respect, the [Arpaio] investigation has not proven anything other than raised probable cause that the birth certificate posted on the White House website ‘may be’ a forgery. The next lawful step would be for the sheriff’s office to turn their findings over to the county attorney for prosecution,” he continued. “Evidence would be brought on both sides and a judge should issue a decision.

“Whether or not that happens, if Hawaii can’t or won’t provide verification of the president’s birth certificate, I will not put his name on the ballot,” he wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 2012; arizona; arpaio; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; fraud; hawaii; hi; kenbennett; naturalborncitizen; nwo; obama; sheriffjoe; statedepartment; usurper
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To: Jeff Head

"born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii" ... the time to perp walk him out of the White House approaches.


61 posted on 05/17/2012 12:37:28 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Colofornian
What is bigoted about quoting Jeremiah Wright speaking about Obama?

Come on...JR called for a truce and I am willing to abide it. You seem to be trying to find and pick apart any post you see of mine that you think you can somehow "catch" me in.

Just give it a rest and let's concentrate on getting Obama out of office and getting the best all-American, honest to God conservatives into the House and Senate that we can.

Sound like a plan?

62 posted on 05/17/2012 12:42:31 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Colofornian

I’m seeing atrend here, of you going out of your way to make these types of posts when they aren’t actually related to the thread topic. Please, stop pinging me to this inane posting. It is a real spiritual battle against the demon dwelling at the heart of MormonISM that I seek to fight, and trivializing that real spititual battle with inanities is, well, counterproductive.


63 posted on 05/17/2012 3:54:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Bought "Unlimited Access" when it first came out....lent it to someone who did not return it.

Bought the revised version a few years later.

Worth reading twice....great expose of the Clintons and how they ran The White House.

65 posted on 05/17/2012 4:52:27 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001. NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Jeff Head
PTL! Imagine if Arizone, a sovceriegn state, refuses to put Obama’s name on the ballot. Imagine if ten or fifteen other states are embolden to do the same thing. Can you say, “House of cards?”

I think it's over for Obama and Co. if even one state refuses to put him on their ballot due to eligibility issues.

66 posted on 05/17/2012 5:10:35 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Lumper20

Actually, Benjamin Franklin said at the time (paraphrased): “Well, this will last until people figure out that they can vote themselves money.”


67 posted on 05/17/2012 6:05:23 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Menehune56

Do not be surprised when the democrats try to ‘lautenberg’ this election as the internal polls show little barry bastard commie plummeting and the DNC brand turning rancid.


68 posted on 05/17/2012 9:47:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Smokeyblue; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...


“Whether or not that happens, if Hawaii can’t or won’t provide verification of the president’s birth certificate, I will not put his name on the ballot,” ~~ Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett
69 posted on 05/18/2012 7:39:14 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: molson209
Don’t Presidents have to go through a Security clearance ?

Nope. If they did, this guy couldn't join the tour group.

70 posted on 05/18/2012 7:47:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Menehune56

Andrew Breitbart left us knowing more than he had time to disclose to us.

What did he know that we need to re-discover, document and publish?

Why are ALL of Obama’s important early documents forged?

Where was Obama during his “Lost Years?”

Why are there so few known Obama childhood friends?

How many of Obama’s childhood buddies are still alive?

Was Obama a FOREIGN student at Occidental, Columbia or Harvard?

Who wrote the checks for Obama’s education?

Where these question that Andrew Beitbart knew some of the answers to?

____________

To tie the above with some speculative food for thought, please indulge me, (but DO ponder the speculations), as I re-post one of my recently updated comments as follows:

A dictator, such as Obama, only has the power that the people give him.

Currently, at least 40 % of polled American voters are gladly willing to give Obama the necessary power to continue his arrogant dictatorship.

About 47 % of American voters pay NO Personal Federal Income Taxes. These voters are the “fair share” voter base for Dictator Obama. We, in the 53 %, then are paying this 47 % to vote for Obama by virtue of us paying taxes for ourselves AND them.

In this manner we are supporting the voters who vote for Obama, and they will vote to do so again in November.

Dictator Obama has designed Obama”care” to become active only AFTER he is to be re-elected, thus enabling THE NINE SUPREMES to delay ruling on the Constitutionality of the dictate of the individual mandate until Obama is once again the Illegal Foreign White House Occupier, (IFWHO).

The purpose of Dictator Baby-Doc Barack is simple: 1.) Regulate; 2.) Control; and 3.) Destroy. By his own count he has already achieved 60 % of his goals, according to the note he says he carries in his pocket.

Obama’s obvious arrogant and deep hatred of America could have only come from what he was taught in his childhood.

Since there are no known networks of childhood friends from Obama’s past, Obama was probably a member of a Marxist sleeper cell funded by wealthy men with a Marxist view of the World.

The lack of credible documents that has NOT been forged requires a long-term, highly skilled and well-funded support group.

Who the key members of Obama’s probable support group and probable sleeper cell were and are is well known to the Interpol, CIA and the FBI.

Will “Citizen Journalists” such as Breitbart Editor Joel Pollack be able to out-spy the latter two US tax-funded spy entities?

BTW, forget about the LAM, (Liberal Agenda Media), as they are saving their notes to write their tell-all Obama books after Obama has SAFELY retired back home in Kenya.

BTW, BTW, to all the doubters of the above speculations: what does your gut tell you?

______________________

The questions we ask
Are simple to say,
One wonders why they
Were not asked,
Back in the Day?

Meanwhile, the drumbeat of Dictator, (in his own mind), Obama grows louder:

regulate —— control —— destroy —— Regulate —— control —— destroy —— REgulate —— control —— destroy —— REGulate —— control —— destroy —— REGU


71 posted on 05/18/2012 8:43:48 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Brown Deer

Drudge now has a link up about this, at http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/05/18/ariz-secretary-state-threatens-remove-obama-ballot/comment-page-8/#comment-136128

I posted this there (at least it looks like it’s showing...:

Some things that should be known:

Sheriff Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse has found probable cause for forgery and fraud involving both Obama’s long-form BC and his draft registration. Less than 5 hours after telling Arpaio that Arpaio’s evidence was good, Andrew Breitbart fell to the ground dead. The same day, Rush Limbaugh received a bomb threat. The MSM TO THIS DAY has not reported the EVIDENCE that Apraio presented that day.

Some interesting points from that press conference:

1. Obama’s draft registration is the only one that came out of that post office at that time which lacked the first 2 digits of a 4-digit year stamp. (It has since been learned that the SSA has altered their definitions so that draft registrations can be destroyed - a move made within days of Arpaio’s decision to investigate Obama’s BC and draft registration).

2. The layers present on the long-form BC indicate that the image never came from a single paper document. Of particular concern is the fact that the content on the BC is alterable, with changes showing in the same font as the document uses, as well as the fact that the certifying elements (the only things that are supposed to show the genuineness of a document) can actually be picked up and moved around - showing they were pasted in from a different source.

3. The newspaper birth announcements include foreign-born children and children who were 2 years old - with no way to distinguish them from genuine children born in HI on the dates given in the announcements.

4. The only 1961 records of people coming into the US from outside the country that are missing. from NARA... are those from the week Obama was supposedly born in Hawaii. NARA has no explanation for why those records are missing. (The earliest passport applications for Obama’s mother are also missing - supposedly destroyed after a retention period was changed, but the required paper trail for the retention change and destruction also don’t exist, and other records that should have supposedly been destroyed were not destroyed. In addition the Passport Office is required to have index cards showing all passports issued to Obama’s mother, which are required to be disclosed to the public on request because she is deceased - but the Passport Office has refused to disclose those records for 2 years now).

Besides what was reported at the presser...

A. Posse commander, Mike Zullo, has confirmed that the media was threatened if they reported on the eligibility issue. This corroborates the claims of Doug Hagman, who was given a signed statement by a talk show host who said that the head of the media company told him that if he or any of his guests discussed the eligibility issue his career would be over and his life and his family’s lives were questionable.

B. Since then, Bettina Viviano and another Hillary supporter in the 2008 primary have said they heard from Bill Clinton’s own mouth that he knows Obama is ineligible. According to high democratic sources, Clintons were planning on revealing Obama’s ineligibility but were scared/threatened away when first Bill Gwatney (Bill’s good friend and chair of the Arkansas Democratic Party) was shot and then Stephanie Tubbs died of a supposed aneuyrism within 2 weeks of the DNC convention where each had promised to present a petition challenging the illegal shenanigans of the Obama people. The Ulsterman Report unwinds a web of crime and corruption surrounding the 2010 CA AG election which is suspected to have cleared the way for Kam Kuwata’s suspicious death, not being found for 2 weeks, and an autopsy not being performed - after Kuwata had revealed to insiders STRANGE goings-on involving Barack Obama at the DNC Convention (where Obama was either drugged, hypnotized, part of a cultic ritual, or something strange). IOW, we’re dealing with a LOT of corruption and disposal of inconvenient players.

C. According to Mike Evans, HI Governor Neil Abercrombie said he had gone to the hospitals in HI with a search warrant and had been unable to find any record of Obama’s birth there. He was looking for it there because there wasn’t one at the HDOH.

D. The Hawaii Department of Health has altered their 1960-64 birth index to include legally non-valid records. That birth index listed both Virginia Sunahara and Barack Obama II. (Virginia was born at Wahiawa Hospital on Aug 4, 1961 and died at Kapiolani Hospital the next day). But when an HDOH worker queried the database for Virginia Sunahara in response to my request, the database had no record under Virginia’s name; that record was presumably under a different name at that point. Since then a computer-generated abstract for Virginia has been released to her brother (but the HDOH refuses to provide a copy or let the brother see the original birth certificate), with a BC# far out of sequence with others - as is the BC# of Stig Waidelich, according to the HDOH’s own statements that BC#’s were assigned on the “date filed” for Oahu births. IOW, the HDOH itself has been caught manipulating their birth index, their database, and the BC#’s of at least 2 BC’s released from their office.

E. HDOH and OIP responses by Paul Tsukiyama have indicated that Obama’s BC was amended in 2006 and there are affidavits to support whatever is claimed on the BC, which would only be necessary for a late or amended birth certificate. Tsukiyama’s response actually cited the statute that refers specifically to late and amended BC’s. Late BC’s have a different BC numbering system (they have an L in front of the BC#) and “late” and/or “altered” have to be stamped on BC’s that are late or altered - which means that the HDOH would have immediately known that both the posted long-form AND the COLB that Obama posted are forgeries.

In addition, late and altered/amended BC’s are not legally valid; they have no probative value, and HRS 338-13 says that their probative value must be determined when presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body. IOW, the State of Hawaii doesn’t vouch for the accuracy of anything on a late or amended BC; they CANNOT verify information from those BC’s. (This explains why the HDOH had to alter their birth index to allow legally non-valid records, in order to get Obama’s name on the list they show the public).

If the HDOH “verifies” anything for Obama, they are contradicting their own earlier revelations that Obama’s birth record was amended and former OIP Director Tsukiyama’s confirmation that Obama’s birth claims are supported by affidavits. At that point, the Hawaii government would have given contradictory, mutually-exclusive stories about Obama’s records.

The only way we will ever know what happened with Obama’s documentation is by auditing all the alleged citizenship records for him. There are 4 records he’s claimed to have, and ALL FOUR show signs of tampering: The long-form and COLB are both forgeries, the draft registration is forged, the SSN fails e-verify and was issued from CT even though Obama never lived there, and his passport file has been breached 3 times (with sources close to the investigation saying it was to alter the record). The inspector general for HHS has said that BC’s are not sufficient as sole verification of eligibility, and that states should require an audit of all the vital records and citizenship records if there are any signs of tampering - especially if much is at stake.

There could not be a more clear example of signs of tampering, and there is no possible instance where more would be at stake than what is at stake here.

Keith, because of the threats out there and the Alinsky-ing of anybody who is called a “birther”, I know you’ve got to say that you think Obama was born in Hawaii. Just like the people at Breitbart who haven’t keeled over dead yet have to do. But I hope in your heart you realize that the evidence for BIG, BIG problems regarding Obama’s eligibility is overwhelming, and multiple crimes have been committed to try to hide that fact.


72 posted on 05/18/2012 9:25:00 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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