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Arizona official to Hawaii: Show birth verification
WND ^ | May 16, 2012 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 05/17/2012 7:34:20 AM PDT by Smokeyblue

A state official in Arizona has asked Hawaii for verification of the information on Barack Obama’s birth certificate, the document that Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s special investigative team has concluded may be a forgery.

Members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party, who petitioned Arpaio to investigate Obama’s eligibility, say they are awaiting word from the state secretary of state regarding whether Obama’s name will be on the 2012 presidential ballot in Arizona.

Secretary of State Ken Bennett had promised to ask Hawaii officials for verification of Obama’s documentation, vowing that if answers are not forthcoming, Obama’s name will not be on the ballot.

The assurance came in an email to various constituents in Arizona who had contacted Bennett’s office expressing concern that the name of an ineligible candidate would be presented to voters in November.

“Because of the importance and profile of the president’s case, and at the request of many constituents, I have gone the extra step of asking the state of Hawaii to verify the facts contained in his birth certificate,” Bennett wrote in response to concerns last month. “Hawaii is bound by their own statutes to provide such verifications to other state officials in their official duties.

“With all due respect, the [Arpaio] investigation has not proven anything other than raised probable cause that the birth certificate posted on the White House website ‘may be’ a forgery. The next lawful step would be for the sheriff’s office to turn their findings over to the county attorney for prosecution,” he continued. “Evidence would be brought on both sides and a judge should issue a decision.

“Whether or not that happens, if Hawaii can’t or won’t provide verification of the president’s birth certificate, I will not put his name on the ballot,” he wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 2012; arizona; arpaio; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; fraud; hawaii; hi; kenbennett; naturalborncitizen; nwo; obama; sheriffjoe; statedepartment; usurper
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To: trubolotta
...increasing the number of thieves getting federal pensions for their stint in office.

One of my core beliefs is eliminating federal pensions for elected office, stated in my prior comment. Let them contribute to and collect from social security and any pension plan they choose to pay for, like the rest of us.

As for those "good people", we need them in the private sector creating wealth, not in government absorbing it!

41 posted on 05/17/2012 10:15:02 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Jeff Head

Once again, my home state leads the way.


42 posted on 05/17/2012 10:22:25 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Good on ‘em! I created a page on my site now to get this word out. We should encourage each of our states to do the same.

Arizon to Hawaii: Provide verification of Obama’s Birth
http://www.jeffhead.com/verifybirth.htm


43 posted on 05/17/2012 10:46:30 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Smokeyblue

Thanks. There are a few things in there that are VERY interesting. I’m not a medical person but as I read this autopsy, these things seem to be indicated:

1. The investigator contacted Andrew’s wife by phone about 10:00am the next morning. She claimed that Andrew had been taken to the ER a year before and had congestive heart failure. But the coroner notes that they had the medical records, and by that time Ed Winter, deputy chief coroner, had already reported to the media that Breitbart had not seen a doctor for over a year. So the claims that he had seen a doctor and had congestive heart failure came from his wife mid-morning the following day and was contradicted by the actual medical records.

2. There was no witness to the autopsy.

3. This claims that there were no photos taken of the body when retrieved from the ER. This violates the protocols for the LA County Coroner’s Office, according to an audit of that agency done 3 years ago. If photos were taken of the body according to protocol, they have since been destroyed.

The person who transported the body from the ER - who is the person who should photograph the body - was not named in the autopsy, so Ed Winter would say that Michael Cormier was not associated with the case in any way (since his name was not listed anywhere in the autopsy). So we have no idea who transported the body, whether they photographed the body according to protocols and the photos were subsequently destroyed, or why they didn’t photograph the body if they didn’t photograph it.

The important thing to note is that the only proof of whether a heart attack was artificially induced by a heart attack dart is those photos, and though they are standard protocol in THIS CASE the autopsy claims they were never taken.

4. The maximum level of blockage found in the arteries was 60%. I’m not a medical person, like I said, but this suggests to me that a heart attack was not caused by blockage or anything with the arteries or heart themselves, but rather because of the electrical impulses being “off” - which is the means used in a potassium chloride heart attack assassination dart.

This autopsy thus raises more questions than it answers. There is nothing in here that I can see that rules out a heart attack dart, and the photos that should have documented whether there was a tiny red mark where a dart entered the body were not taken, in violation of standard protocols. The level of blockage in the arteries suggests this heart attack was NOT caused by the condition of the arteries or heart but by the electrical impulses which control the timing of the heartbeats, which is the means whereby a heart attack dart causes a heart attack.

As always, if somebody else has input that clarifies or rebuts anything I’ve said, I hope to hear it.


44 posted on 05/17/2012 10:48:03 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: JimRed
“Wouldn't the presence of an illegal candidate invalidate a “legal” election?”

No it would not. The election would be valid - the President would be found unfit/unable/ineligible to serve and the Vice President (elected via that election which would NOT be invalidated) would become the President - assuming he is fit/able/eligible to serve.

45 posted on 05/17/2012 10:50:58 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: butterdezillion

Agree. 60% blockage shouldn’t cause cardiac arrest and death. Symptoms, perhaps, but not cardiac arrest/death.


46 posted on 05/17/2012 11:07:48 AM PDT by RacerXSpeedRacer (Conservative principals and values - pray for our future.)
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To: Jeff Head

you all see the headline on Drudge??


47 posted on 05/17/2012 11:10:39 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Jeff Head; LS; greyfoxx39
Arizon to Hawaii: Provide verification of Obama’s Birth

Planet Earth to Planet Kolob: Provide verification of Romney's claim to be "spirit born" on Kolob...

Doesn't that make Romney an alien "non-citizen" of this planet...sent to take over a human body here?

And Jeff, be honest, with all the posters here: Don't you believe you're one of these "spirit birth" aliens, too?

48 posted on 05/17/2012 11:32:22 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: LucyT; butterdezillion

ping to butterdezillion’s analysis and e-mail to Bennett in the comment:

“What I’ve seen from him suggests he’s going to demand legal verification, as authorized in HRS 338-18. Janice Okubo has told me that they don’t do letters of verification in lieu of certified BC because that’s what the Certification of Live Birth is. So in accordance with Hawaii law, Bennett is expecting a certified COLB for Obama, unless they decide to do a letter of verification.

“But Bennett has been informed that there is even a problem with that. This is what I sent him this morning:”


49 posted on 05/17/2012 11:41:35 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Smokeyblue

He will, when he receives a big stack of money from Obama’s campaign HQ.


50 posted on 05/17/2012 12:00:56 PM PDT by Kevmo (Palin 2012. It's just me in the voting booth. 100% straight republican ticket.)
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To: Colofornian

Not really worth a serious reply Colo.

You are just displaying your disdain for and bigotry towards the LDS faith where none was asked for , sought out, or even being discussed.

How pitiful.


51 posted on 05/17/2012 12:06:27 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Smokeyblue

A SOS the Soros mob (in both parties) failed to take out.


52 posted on 05/17/2012 12:08:21 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: spacejunkie2001
Yep. This is the cover of the pamphlet from the 1990s which was used to introduce and bio then Obama as the fist black President of the Harvard Law Review.

Obama bin Lyin'

53 posted on 05/17/2012 12:12:30 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
So, it's A-OK for you to exhibit your Islamic bigotry by commenting upon the "Islamic inclinations" of Obama in a negative way; but others can't dissect Mormonism.

You get to wear the dual badge of bigotry and religious hypocrisy!

54 posted on 05/17/2012 12:15:40 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: molson209
Don’t Presidents have to go through a Security clearance ? If not it’s insane

It's insane, molson. FBI agents and other law enforcement professionals have admitted that it is not their job to second guess the electorate on the suitability of candidates. Obama could not be cleared to work as a janitor in any governmental building, if only because his SSN flunks the e-verify test. Yet, there he sits writing one Excutiuve Order after another and shoring up his phalanx of czars...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2740018/posts

55 posted on 05/17/2012 12:21:51 PM PDT by TexasVoter (No Constitution? No Union!)
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To: Seizethecarp
This is like watching a car bounce down a hill as the wheels fall off.

Paging Biden, your wanted at the DNC. Please bring your BC.

56 posted on 05/17/2012 12:21:51 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Smokeyblue

I need to correct myself. If I’m reading this right (hard to tell exactly whether it’s referring to transportation to the ER or to the coroner’s office because the page is wrinkled apparently, but from the time listed I think it’s referring to the transportation of the body from the ER to the coroner’s office) - but if I’m understanding it right, Lucia Montoya transported the body at 9:05am. Took 3 photos. The coroner mentions that photos were taken before and during the autopsy but doesn’t refer to what was on those photos. And the only observations from the skin were for injuries from his fall to the ground and that which indicated that CPR and IV’s had been administered (which we already know).

So the report claims that the protocols were followed when Lucia Montoya took 3 photos of the body. Three photos wouldn’t cover all the surface area of the skin and to see a small red dot the coroner would have to zoom in on the photos, which he never says he did - which is the central question as to whether the heart attack occurred naturally, or was induced by a heart attack dart.

The restriction mentioned - from thickening of the wall of the (left?) ventricle - doesn’t seem to be enough to cause a heart attack. Looking online for an explanation of this condition, it seems like an arrhythmia would have to cause a heart attack, and that is precisely how a potassium chloride dart would cause a heart attack.

The technician who attended the autopsy is written in cursive and doesn’t appear to be Cormier.

Here’s a link to a comment about that: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2884923/posts?page=46#46


57 posted on 05/17/2012 12:28:35 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Jeff Head; Smokeyblue; bert; Noumenon; Travis McGee; LS; MHGinTN; Squantos; betty boop; joanie-f
“If Hawaii can’t or won’t provide verification of the president’s birth certificate, I will not put his name on the ballot,” - Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett PTL! Imagine if Arizone, a sovceriegn state, refuses to put Obama’s name on the ballot. Imagine if ten or fifteen other states are embolden to do the same thing.

Imagine if a movement afoot where Romney is asked to provide verification of his real origins -- the Planet Kolob???

Imagine all of the Southern states waging such a question!

For if Romney was by his own confession "spirit born" on another planet, doesn't that make Romney an alien "non-citizen" of this planet...sent to take over a human body here?

And Jeff, be honest with all the posters here: Don't you believe you're one of these "spirit birth" aliens, too?

I hope states mount an effort to get Romney to publicly confess what he already privately believes...that his origin was NOT as a U.S. Citizen nor even as an earthling!

58 posted on 05/17/2012 12:29:28 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Jeff Head
The article says the data usually had to be cleared by the author. So Obama probably cleared this.
59 posted on 05/17/2012 12:30:52 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Jeff Head

Wowee sha-wowee. There it is, in print for all to see.

And is that a Breitbart logo on there? Is Breitbart reporting this?

Again - wowee sha-wowee!


60 posted on 05/17/2012 12:33:54 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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