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1 posted on 05/16/2012 10:42:22 AM PDT by thackney
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Looking for a certain result?? Ask the government boot lickers to do the testing.

Ain't that right Mr. Gore??

2 posted on 05/16/2012 10:45:41 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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They WANT to destroy your engine.

That way you have to buy another vehicle built by union goons.

3 posted on 05/16/2012 10:49:54 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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It costs more but I use ethanol free gas in my mowers;

http://pure-gas.org/


8 posted on 05/16/2012 10:57:22 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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Ethanol is particularly damaging to small engines (outboards, mowers, etc...)

E10 has already destroyed my push mower and clobbered my weed-wacker (plastic fuel lines got brittle and shattered), and I haven't been able to get my chainsaw to start lately. And, I'm definitely in fear for my Evinrude 50...

So far, the riding mower seems to be OK...

&%$#^ Eco-weenies!!!!

9 posted on 05/16/2012 10:58:48 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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What about testing on motorcycles? E15 cannot be good for those engines.


11 posted on 05/16/2012 11:02:28 AM PDT by sigzero
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even the blend they sell now breaks down in month, I have to add a nine dollar can of stabilizer to every tank I fill.


12 posted on 05/16/2012 11:03:21 AM PDT by 4buttons
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I'd have to guess that most vehicles are not rated/designed to run E-15. It will kill most older engines. You know, the ones that run like a tank.
The alcohol, aside from disturbing (slowing down) the fuel burn timing is also hygroscopic. It absorbs water into the fuel.

They took eight engines and damaged two, %25 failure rate. These are also new engines, a study does no good with used parts.

Lawnmowers need to be drained in the fall due to the additives in the gas absorbing water over the winter. Fixed many a broken mower for others by knowing this simple fact.
18 posted on 05/16/2012 11:10:12 AM PDT by allmost
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I keep records of all my fuel purchaces in my 2 vehicles.

Doing so tells me when I need to change spark plugs, etc. I change oil, filters, on a very regular basis.

The 10% Ethanol used to be just a part of the year additive. I could tell exactly when it was in the tank based on my mileage. My mileage drops between 10% and 13% with that fuel added to regular gasoline.

I have had one vehicle since 1991 and one since 1986. I have all those records.


24 posted on 05/16/2012 11:36:30 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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The fuel cap on my Prius C reads “E15-E85” with a circle around it and a bar through it. That’s fairly explicit to me what should NOT be going in the tank.


25 posted on 05/16/2012 11:44:06 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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E10 is bad enough.

Engine skips, sputters, acts like it’s vapor locked when it gets hot.


26 posted on 05/16/2012 11:44:20 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security, go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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On a recent trip from Montana to California I tanked up my 2012 Silverado on E15. My fuel mileage dropped from 24 MPG (read on my trip computer, flat road, speed control set at 80 MPH) to 14 MPG. How can reducing fuel mileage by almost 50% help us save resources?
30 posted on 05/16/2012 11:55:19 AM PDT by Ben Mugged ("Life's tough..... It's even tougher if you're stupid." John Wayne)
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Only confirming my suspicion of several years!

My bike is a two-stroke, E15 = seizure, and I just had it rebuilt.

None of my cars will run on it, and it will destroy the carbs, including my expensive Weber units.

This is the Eco-Nut plan, force ALL the older cars and bikes off the road by eliminating the availability of suitable fuel.

I wonder how the guys paying BIG bucks for classics will feel about that?

Oh, and running Av-Gas is actually illegal as it avoids the road tax.
It’s also a “Dry” fuel, so may have it’s own issues with some engines.


37 posted on 05/16/2012 12:17:39 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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Will the government foot the bill for the engine damage done by this mandate and will Government Motors continue to honor the warranties of its vehicles when the owner's manual specifically says that no more than E10 can be used as fuel.
49 posted on 05/16/2012 1:36:26 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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Gasoline vs. Ethanol Blended Fuels
Adding alcohol of any kind to gasoline, dilutes the fuel, and lowers the heat energy.

One US gallon of Gasoline (regular unleaded) = 114,100 BTU/gal

One US gallon of Ethanol (E100) = 76,100 BTU/gal
[67% of gasoline BTU]

One US gallon of 10% Ethanol/Gasoline Blend (E10) [114,100 X.9] + [76,100 X .1] = 111,300 BTU/gal
[97% of gasoline BTU]

Adding 10% ethanol to gasoline requires burning 3% more fuel to accomplish the same task.

All ethanol blended gasoline requires the consumer to buy more gallons of fuel in order to travel the same distance.
Highway fuel is taxed “by the gallon”, so governments collect more tax revenue from the consumer with blended fuels.

What happened to those bartenders in the old-west movies when they were caught watering down the whiskey?


51 posted on 05/16/2012 1:49:40 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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A friend of mine ran operations at a local summer camp and they couldn’t figure out why their gasoline storage tanks kept getting water in them (which they used to fuel the boats). Turned out it was the ethanol degrading and the byproduct was water. The ethanol gas has a short shelf life. If you burn through a tank of gas in a week or two, you won’t notice anything. However, if it takes longer, you’ll likely be pumping fuel into your engine that has 10% or more water.

The stuff is a total nightmare and needs to be removed from all stations.


56 posted on 05/16/2012 2:18:22 PM PDT by Marko413
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