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INCIDENT: I Am A Threat (My personal experience with U.S. Border Patrol.)
Tea Party Tribune ^ | 5/9/2012 | Joe Otto

Posted on 05/11/2012 5:17:13 AM PDT by IbJensen

This is not an isolated case. Life as we have known it will cease to exist unless we all pour our efforts into this next election. Those who are “not interested” in politics will wish to God they had put efforts into this. The truly evil ones are less than 10% and follow satan. Those who have an entitlement mindset are about 35% (but they are also devoid of passion and essentially lazy). Our country was founded by 20% of the colony population. Which percentage will you be?

I am a threat. This is not about any loss of freedom you are about to experience but is about the lack of freedoms you currently have. The following account just happened to me, personally, as I recently crossed the border from Canada to the US. Many of you do not know me, but I am one of the founders of Conservative Daily. As a founder, I set out to create an environment where we could fight for freedom, fight for better moral and ethical direction, but even more importantly fight to hold those in positions of trust and power accountable. Every day, we research, draft and develop new ways to fight against the bureaucratic nightmare that we face as a nation, and to reveal the shame many that we call leaders have brought to our great nation.

I went to Canada to attend the Malibu Young Life Camp, a camp that is the definition of God’s paradise. The camp sits on the Princess Louisa Inlet, and has some 5500 visiting campers a year. It is a Christian camp that seeks to give teenagers a week of fun, faith, and fellowship. A week, that as I discovered, brings people back some fifty years later. We were there to help get the camp back in order for the forthcoming summer season, which as it turns out, led me to 6 days of very hard labor laying about 30 tons of slate for a pathway to one of the newly donated buildings. I would complain, but the truth is, no matter how sore my knees are (or the rest of my body for that matter), the friendship and fellowship we experienced this week made it all worth it.

We headed back to the US through the CBP (Customs and Border Patrol) station at Aldergrove. I was traveling with my in-laws, as this was my first time at Malibu “volunteering”. Now, I am a regular traveler with a passport that reads of trips to Africa and the Middle East. I have worked on several projects in pretty controversial areas, and with sometimes very controversial people. I do so, to seek understanding, and to seek peace. My motivations are never about money and do not put me in any situations where I could or would compromise the US or our standings on foreign policy or domestic policy regardless of how right or wrong I may see the current direction.

A couple of years back, I made it onto a list. I have no idea how I made it to that list, or what prompted their adding me to the list, but nonetheless, I get “special” treatment, every time I re-enter the US. The agents are always courteous and respectful, and they are always just as stunned as to why I would make it on anyone’s list. Normally, I answer their questions and after about an hour, I am free to go.

This time, though… this time it was very different. This time, they searched the car we were riding in three times. They interrogated me four times. They took my wallet, and made copies (in plain sight) of every credit card in my wallet. They took my computer, and made copies of the contents of my entire hard drive, including intimate letters between me and my wife, emails, pictures, and other writings and documents. They went through my cell phone, and disappeared into a “lab” in the back after asking me if it was password protected. They gawked over the three of us (my in-laws as well) as they all poured into the “lab”. Several of them pointed at us over and over again as other agents (12 or so in total) came in to watch as they interrogate their suspect.

Suspect of what? Maybe they discovered that I in fact did some charitable work in Malibu. Or maybe they discovered that every year, my wife and I donate a wedding on the 4th of July to an active military couple as a symbol of our gratitude toward all the men and women who serve our great country. Maybe they discovered that I am a father of two honor students, or that I am the volunteer (unpaid) Executive Director for a Non-Profit that the IRS has taken two years to neither approve or deny. Maybe they discovered that I am a founder of Conservative Daily, and that I stand for our rights under the Constitution. Maybe they do not like the many times I spoke (albeit respectfully and honorably) about the loss of those rights and the lack of accountability of the “middle management” of our government. Not just our federal government but our state and local municipalities as well. Maybe someone on the other end of the state department has deemed me a threat, because I stand for you, as you stand for your neighbor. Maybe they just figured out that Americans are waking up from a deep slumber of complacency and inaction.

Any way you interpret what they did to me, they personally violated my rights as an American, and they did so with reckless impunity. As I watched my mother in law become increasingly concerned as they searched the car a second time, and then a third. They watched as they took me into a room and after three hours attempted to sneak my computer bag back into the car. My computer does track transfer or copying of files, and they could have been smart enough to realize that most people want to know when people are looking at their private information.

Over the years, I viewed the questions and answers that I have endured when re-entering the US as a minor inconvenience. I had not been concerned and I certainly have not let them control my emotions. I have learned to carefully space my final flight home in the US long enough to accommodate this inconvenience. They were not going to get me angry or upset, for a certainly have nothing to hide.

Now, I see it quite differently. I see what they did as an escalation of things to come. A new barometer of what they see as acceptable. Violating our Constitutional rights is the new norm. The law states that you have no recourse, as they can decide whether you have a right to sue. Then when you do sue, you have to prove damages. After wading through the legal implications and bills associated with holding them accountable, the reality is you may not be able to sustain the fatigue of the fight. Neither can most of us afford it.

This brings up a whole new dynamic concerning your rights as an American. You have freedoms, until someone violates those freedoms, and then you are supposed to have options. What options do you really have? They will issue a memo denying wrongdoing, and you will cry foul. They will call you a delusional person with a victim complex, and you will fight, until you realize that fighting alone… is lonely. It is tiring, and it is depressing. Then they will say that when you were 21 you got arrested in a bar for fighting, or you got three speeding tickets, so obviously you’re a demon, who is trying to act innocent. Then they will say, you have been divorced, so you have to be bad. Or that you once went fishing without a license so we know what type of guy you are… Then the white noise of what really happened will be overshadowed by warts you really do not have, and what will be left, is you, holding the bag, wondering if the fight was ever worth it. By the way, I was not arrested for fighting in a bar or fishing without a license, although the other two things are accurate.

This is a story, I wish everyone would read. This is not a story of the IRS forcing me to close my business because of ridicule and persecution, but that could happen now. This is not a case of Obamacare destroying my ability to make a living, but this does happen. This is not even a case of injustice because I was beaten by authority. This is a case of social injustice, an invasion of privacy and a theft of information. This is the essence of our loss of freedoms as Americans.

When does it stop? And where does the rabbit trail lead? The definition of what happened to me, just yesterday is what each of you should be afraid of. I am not going to ask you to fax congress, or write a letter on my behalf. I am sharing this with all of you. 1.6 million people across the US who get our message so that you can understand the big problems are daunting but the ones you do not see, those are the ones that you should be afraid of, because those are the ones that take your freedoms long before big new laws have a chance to.

In the next two months we will be launching a campaign across the US with coalitions and partnerships with organizations that stand for those freedoms. We are going to ask people to stand at intersections, at grocery stores, and in public places telling about stories that have little meaning individually but collectively paint a picture of our country that we all need to see. Obama is a bad president, but our government is so big, and out of control, that if we do not stop it, and replenish and replace our leaders, we will face a certain future that is devastating and tragic.

So stand with me, forward this to friends, and join me as we stand, together.


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So. Our border patrol is comprised of thugs! These uniformed agents have become yet another enemy of decent, law-abiding Americans. This case should be thoroughly investigated and those that played a hand in this disgrace must be fired!
1 posted on 05/11/2012 5:17:20 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

Where would the early church have been if they had put their faith in Rome?

We are past political solutions. My solution was to move from my 45 year home, Seattle, to a small farm in central KY.

It’s all about Revelation 18:4


2 posted on 05/11/2012 5:20:02 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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Mr. Jensen is sounding the alarm based on harsh reality. Will America listen? I'm afraid that I'm not optimistic. Collective complacency and manufactured distractions along with incessant and effective media propaganda will eventually cost us our freedom. Yet, it doesn't have to be this way unless we allow it to happen.
3 posted on 05/11/2012 5:27:45 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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These uniformed agents have become yet another enemy of decent, law-abiding Americans.

So, our protectors are now our emeny? You want to live with open borders? Try this: Take the doors off of your house. Advertise on your local TV that you have done that. Think you are going to sleep well?

4 posted on 05/11/2012 5:32:28 AM PDT by patriotUSA (Thank you Jesus.)
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To: IbJensen
Not to be cynical, but if he gives the authorities too much trouble, next time he crosses the border contraband or drugs will be found and he will spend five years in a jail cell to correct his attitude. To echo what has already been said in this article and elsewhere on FR, if we don't get Obama out in November, there will be no additional chance and the behavior detailed in the article will be mild to what will come next.
5 posted on 05/11/2012 5:39:16 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: IbJensen

Dear God. :-(


6 posted on 05/11/2012 5:40:29 AM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: patriotUSA

This guy isn’t complaingin about closed borders. What he is complaining about is the abuse of power. He even states that the questioning in the past was a minor inconvenience. The description of what he went through should send chills down your spine.


7 posted on 05/11/2012 5:52:10 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: IbJensen

Romney wants open borders and amnesty I think. Forget what he says, look at his actions.

We need to elect conservatives to the House and to the woeful Senate.


8 posted on 05/11/2012 5:53:48 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: patriotUSA

Despite your username there is apparently a lot you don’t ‘get’ about both patriotism and what the USA is all about.


9 posted on 05/11/2012 5:57:50 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Oh jeez.......... this guy should just stop crying... would you rather the border patrol just flagged everyone on through? I did a lot of traveling between canada and the U.S., spending extended time working in canada. If your number pops up, you get the special treatment. Damn near everyone that goes over the border will get this at one time or another.

Now, take into account where he has been and, by his own admission, who he was with in these questionable countries, and you are gonna get detained.

Messing with me while I am in my own country is one thing (tsa is the gestapo) but when you are coming in, you are subject to search. If you are on a list, you are gonna get extra searched. It is just the way it is. Stop whining.


10 posted on 05/11/2012 5:58:37 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: sneakers

Welcome to Hannity’s America.


11 posted on 05/11/2012 6:05:51 AM PDT by easyrighter
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To: Truth29

well said. so just to be safe...

I Love Big Brother.

feel much better now!


12 posted on 05/11/2012 6:06:46 AM PDT by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: IbJensen

A few sentences stand out:

“Now, I am a regular traveler with a passport that reads of trips to Africa and the Middle East. I have worked on several projects in pretty controversial areas, and with sometimes very controversial people.”

So this guy could be rubbing elbows with, or even “providing aid and comfort” to America’s enemies and you don’t think he warrants extra scrutiny?


13 posted on 05/11/2012 6:12:08 AM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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To: IbJensen

First question that comes to mind:
Why did you let them do it?

Why did you feed and embolden the beasts?

And if you knew beforehand that you were likely to get the extra attention, why did you take your computer along? How hard can it be to get a spare laptop, or to rent one for the trip and just carry those few files you will need?

It’s like traveling with a sack of diamonds: you shouldn’t!

This is not a free country anymore.

Nor is anyone angry enough to try to restore it. Actions speak louder, and all the actions I see are submissive. (BTW — “Vote for Romney!”)

A very few — and not enough — people are passively resisting, for example by avoiding air travel and border crossing. Most won’t even go that far.

Most are sheep. Public schooled, tax-paying, TSA-inspected mutton.


14 posted on 05/11/2012 6:14:42 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Non-compliant, not govt-issued, and not voting for Romney.)
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To: IbJensen

This regime is totalitarian.


15 posted on 05/11/2012 6:15:48 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: joe fonebone
I agree. There are pleanty of things to do for the good of humanity here in our own country. We used to go fishing up north during the 70’s. Never go again.
16 posted on 05/11/2012 6:17:03 AM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: patriotUSA

This is about our rights as US citizens not about open borders. Read the Constitution. Just because DHS decides to put you on a list doens’t mean you lose your constitutional rights.


17 posted on 05/11/2012 6:20:32 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: joe fonebone

Baaaa, Baaaaaa.


18 posted on 05/11/2012 6:22:55 AM PDT by zek157
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To: IbJensen
"As a founder, I set out to create an environment where we could fight for freedom, fight for better moral and ethical direction, but even more importantly fight to hold those in positions of trust and power accountable. Every day, we research, draft and develop new ways to fight against the bureaucratic nightmare that we face as a nation..."

Yeah. Fight fight fight fight.

Baaaa baaaa baaaa baaaa.

There's no fight in this story, just the usual bend over and bleat about it afterwards.

19 posted on 05/11/2012 6:23:24 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Non-compliant, not govt-issued, and not voting for Romney.)
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This time, though… this time it was very different. This time, they searched the car we were riding in three times. They interrogated me four times. They took my wallet, and made copies (in plain sight) of every credit card in my wallet. They took my computer, and made copies of the contents of my entire hard drive, including intimate letters between me and my wife, emails, pictures, and other writings and documents. They went through my cell phone, and disappeared into a “lab” in the back after asking me if it was password protected. They gawked over the three of us (my in-laws as well) as they all poured into the “lab”. Several of them pointed at us over and over again as other agents (12 or so in total) came in to watch as they interrogate their suspect.

When you come back into the United States with a United States Passport, you are an American citizen on American soil. I'm not sure how we American citizens ever gave up our rights under the fourth amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
... under such circumstances but I guess we did. But we only did as I understand it to make sure that proper duties were being paid on any goods we might be importing. Looking at files on ones computer and making copies of credit cards has nothing to do with Customs.

If this story is true, it is an outrage.

ML/NJ

20 posted on 05/11/2012 6:35:42 AM PDT by ml/nj
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