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So. Our border patrol is comprised of thugs! These uniformed agents have become yet another enemy of decent, law-abiding Americans. This case should be thoroughly investigated and those that played a hand in this disgrace must be fired!
1 posted on 05/11/2012 5:17:20 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

Where would the early church have been if they had put their faith in Rome?

We are past political solutions. My solution was to move from my 45 year home, Seattle, to a small farm in central KY.

It’s all about Revelation 18:4


2 posted on 05/11/2012 5:20:02 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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Mr. Jensen is sounding the alarm based on harsh reality. Will America listen? I'm afraid that I'm not optimistic. Collective complacency and manufactured distractions along with incessant and effective media propaganda will eventually cost us our freedom. Yet, it doesn't have to be this way unless we allow it to happen.
3 posted on 05/11/2012 5:27:45 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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These uniformed agents have become yet another enemy of decent, law-abiding Americans.

So, our protectors are now our emeny? You want to live with open borders? Try this: Take the doors off of your house. Advertise on your local TV that you have done that. Think you are going to sleep well?

4 posted on 05/11/2012 5:32:28 AM PDT by patriotUSA (Thank you Jesus.)
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Not to be cynical, but if he gives the authorities too much trouble, next time he crosses the border contraband or drugs will be found and he will spend five years in a jail cell to correct his attitude. To echo what has already been said in this article and elsewhere on FR, if we don't get Obama out in November, there will be no additional chance and the behavior detailed in the article will be mild to what will come next.
5 posted on 05/11/2012 5:39:16 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: IbJensen

Dear God. :-(


6 posted on 05/11/2012 5:40:29 AM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: IbJensen

Romney wants open borders and amnesty I think. Forget what he says, look at his actions.

We need to elect conservatives to the House and to the woeful Senate.


8 posted on 05/11/2012 5:53:48 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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Oh jeez.......... this guy should just stop crying... would you rather the border patrol just flagged everyone on through? I did a lot of traveling between canada and the U.S., spending extended time working in canada. If your number pops up, you get the special treatment. Damn near everyone that goes over the border will get this at one time or another.

Now, take into account where he has been and, by his own admission, who he was with in these questionable countries, and you are gonna get detained.

Messing with me while I am in my own country is one thing (tsa is the gestapo) but when you are coming in, you are subject to search. If you are on a list, you are gonna get extra searched. It is just the way it is. Stop whining.


10 posted on 05/11/2012 5:58:37 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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A few sentences stand out:

“Now, I am a regular traveler with a passport that reads of trips to Africa and the Middle East. I have worked on several projects in pretty controversial areas, and with sometimes very controversial people.”

So this guy could be rubbing elbows with, or even “providing aid and comfort” to America’s enemies and you don’t think he warrants extra scrutiny?


13 posted on 05/11/2012 6:12:08 AM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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To: IbJensen

First question that comes to mind:
Why did you let them do it?

Why did you feed and embolden the beasts?

And if you knew beforehand that you were likely to get the extra attention, why did you take your computer along? How hard can it be to get a spare laptop, or to rent one for the trip and just carry those few files you will need?

It’s like traveling with a sack of diamonds: you shouldn’t!

This is not a free country anymore.

Nor is anyone angry enough to try to restore it. Actions speak louder, and all the actions I see are submissive. (BTW — “Vote for Romney!”)

A very few — and not enough — people are passively resisting, for example by avoiding air travel and border crossing. Most won’t even go that far.

Most are sheep. Public schooled, tax-paying, TSA-inspected mutton.


14 posted on 05/11/2012 6:14:42 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Non-compliant, not govt-issued, and not voting for Romney.)
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To: IbJensen

This regime is totalitarian.


15 posted on 05/11/2012 6:15:48 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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"As a founder, I set out to create an environment where we could fight for freedom, fight for better moral and ethical direction, but even more importantly fight to hold those in positions of trust and power accountable. Every day, we research, draft and develop new ways to fight against the bureaucratic nightmare that we face as a nation..."

Yeah. Fight fight fight fight.

Baaaa baaaa baaaa baaaa.

There's no fight in this story, just the usual bend over and bleat about it afterwards.

19 posted on 05/11/2012 6:23:24 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Non-compliant, not govt-issued, and not voting for Romney.)
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This time, though… this time it was very different. This time, they searched the car we were riding in three times. They interrogated me four times. They took my wallet, and made copies (in plain sight) of every credit card in my wallet. They took my computer, and made copies of the contents of my entire hard drive, including intimate letters between me and my wife, emails, pictures, and other writings and documents. They went through my cell phone, and disappeared into a “lab” in the back after asking me if it was password protected. They gawked over the three of us (my in-laws as well) as they all poured into the “lab”. Several of them pointed at us over and over again as other agents (12 or so in total) came in to watch as they interrogate their suspect.

When you come back into the United States with a United States Passport, you are an American citizen on American soil. I'm not sure how we American citizens ever gave up our rights under the fourth amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
... under such circumstances but I guess we did. But we only did as I understand it to make sure that proper duties were being paid on any goods we might be importing. Looking at files on ones computer and making copies of credit cards has nothing to do with Customs.

If this story is true, it is an outrage.

ML/NJ

20 posted on 05/11/2012 6:35:42 AM PDT by ml/nj
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"A couple of years back, I made it onto a list. I have no idea how I made it to that list"

No idea? LOL. The guy needs to buy a clue and not be a smart ass at the border. You have no "rights as an American" at the POE. We may not like it but that is the law. Those CBP officers are basically god in that area. They can do whatever they want within the regulations. So my advise if he wants to travel is follow the ICE program, tell the truth and don't pick fights with them.

24 posted on 05/11/2012 7:10:19 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: IbJensen; Jim Scott; Truth29; sneakers; easyrighter; Gasshog; Lady Lucky; GranTorino; zek157; ...

To clarify a major error in the narrative.

“We headed back to the US through the CBP (Customs and Border Patrol)”

No, he did not.

He went through the CBP, Customs and Border PROTECTION, point of entry (POE). Agents at the POE are Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), not Border Patrol. They are two very separate and distinct organizations-—from the color of their uniform (blue for ICE, green for Border Patrol) to their missions (ICE works POE, Border Patrol works between the POEs).

Border Patrol Agents are the one’s in the boonies, hours from back-up and they take-down illegal aliens, drug smugglers and human smugglers. They are the one’s that take personal risks and sometimes suffer consequences from our own governments actions (Agents Ramos and Compean, and Agent Brian Terry for recent examples).

“So. Our border patrol is comprised of thugs!”

Be sure to aim your bile correctly. . .otherwise you will be correctly viewed as a fool if you misidentify the agency/Agents and aim your fire at the wrong people.


25 posted on 05/11/2012 7:12:07 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: IbJensen; cuban leaf
Life as we have known it will cease to exist unless we all pour our efforts into this next election.

I'm a little late to this thread, but I agree with cuban and others: 1) we are beyond political solutions at this point; and 2) Life as we have known it is PRESENTLY passing away, and mathematically, there is NOTHING anyone can do to stop it.

All we can do is adapt. Move to a lower population density area, as cuban did, and I am working to do. (I'm already in the third-lowest-pop-density county in NC already, but I'm looking to move further out.)

When people finally figure out what has happened in our financial sector and government, the civil society WILL break down. Count on it. And corrupt cops and border patrol agents WILL be part of the people.

People in general are going to be the problem.

But there is something we can do now: prepare. Store food, water, supplies, ammo, guns. Get the skills required to survive in less-than-ideal circumstances. Learn to defend yourself and your family.

And we can build community now. I can reach out to three of my immediate neighbors, and we can be armed and ready to repel looters in minutes. And this is in a small-town housing addition. BUILD RELATIONSHIPS with like-minded people NOW, for mutual aid later when the fertilizer contacts the fan-blades.

Repeating: no political solutions are available now, civil society will break down, prepare yourself and your family, and build a mutual-aid society in your immediate area.

33 posted on 05/11/2012 10:05:38 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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I am with Joe. We need to recover our freedom from Homeland inSecurity. They have betrayed us. The assumption that they could be trusted with the “anti-terror” power we have permitted them to have is totally bogus. They adopted the up-side-down evil of political correctness and go after Americans based on their political activities.

Congress has to wake up and reel them in big time.


35 posted on 05/11/2012 10:35:44 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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bump. We've been losing our freedoms bit by bit in this country for decades.

I would strongly suggest the author of this article cancel all of his credit cards.

36 posted on 05/11/2012 10:55:55 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: IbJensen
So. Our border patrol is comprised of thugs!

Only on the Northern border. Gotta stop those bloodthirsty Anglos. Here at the Southern border there is a Welcome mat.

43 posted on 05/11/2012 4:23:02 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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Now, I am a regular traveler with a passport that reads of trips to Africa and the Middle East. I have worked on several projects in pretty controversial areas, and with sometimes very controversial people.

Not to make light of the incident, but perhaps this is what it was about? Could one o those controversial people have graduated to a whole new level? That's what happened to a friend of mine, who used to tour the world visiting house churches.

46 posted on 05/12/2012 4:02:05 AM PDT by jimtorr
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Anyone.

Who is Joe Otto and what is ‘Conservative Daily’ that he helped found?


49 posted on 05/12/2012 10:27:15 AM PDT by deport (.............God Bless Texas............)
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