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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: volunbeer

diplomacy is saying nice doggie while you look for a stick


1,081 posted on 05/04/2012 7:35:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: EasySt

I do share some of your arguments.....

“The fact that Ron Paul is the ONLY Nationally Recognized Spokesperson for the US Constitution is a crying shame in my view.)”

True. I wish there were more REAL conservatives who held fast to the Constution. As Reagan did.

“He is a deeply flawed candidate...”

So VERY true.


1,082 posted on 05/04/2012 7:35:13 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
We are the resistance!!

Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!

Bravo Jim, well said!

Maybe we can also work for closed primaries.

1,083 posted on 05/04/2012 7:37:23 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: danielmryan
Ronmey is appeasing the Tea Party.

Okay, I'll bite.

What has he done to appease the Tea Party?

1,084 posted on 05/04/2012 7:40:27 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: NFHale

B U M P


1,085 posted on 05/04/2012 7:43:44 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Jim Robinson

This is pretty much where I am, Jim.

This is going to be a tough election season. I still can’t believe it’s come to this after all the hard work and successes of 2010.

We still have a LOT of work to do, don’t we?


1,086 posted on 05/04/2012 7:44:19 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Without genuine liberals to argue with, this gets to be a bit of an echo chamber. Could there be a Screaming Liberals forum for this sort of exchange to take place in?

Maybe Jim could set something up like the religious Square where pretty much you have to have a thick skin to tread there..... It gets hot and heavy but you sure learn and see the difference between truth and falsehood when all is said and done. It's moderated... basically you can't make it personal attacks...but it gets feisty and lively none the less. I rather think Paul and some of the disciples had some heavy debates along the way and a passions rose.....so too with politics as religion....passions run high.... there is much at stake to win or loose.

1,087 posted on 05/04/2012 7:46:33 PM PDT by caww
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To: Jim Robinson
We must have conservative majorities so we can control the agenda and or impeach the usurpers no matter who wins!!
BTTT !

1,088 posted on 05/04/2012 7:49:18 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Jim Robinson
It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots.

We won't have the presidency, but we can have the president's ear. We should focus our energies on the Senate and maintaining the gains we've made in the house.

I, for one, will be taking heed of Newt Gingrich's recommendations and strategies over the next few years. I strongly feel that he has the right agenda. And in this balancing act of Tea Party activism, conservative philosophy, and national politics, Newt Gingrich can forge a path of reform and flush out those with treacherous intentions, if we empower him.

Our country is badly damaged. We're not going to turn it around overnight. We're not going to turn it around with the election of one president.

1,089 posted on 05/04/2012 7:53:07 PM PDT by GVnana (Newt 2012 - He Speaks for Us)
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To: caww

The standard for manners in a Screaming Liberals forum would need to be far more tolerant. There are going to be F words and worse slung around. These are the dwellers of DU caves. Look at Townhall. It has a lame and weird bowdlerization system (one of the things you can’t say is jackass) but it’s trivial to get around by embedding punctuation or spaces in your naughty word.


1,090 posted on 05/04/2012 7:54:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: GVnana

In order to have good stuff at the top to work with, it has to be grown from the bottom.


1,091 posted on 05/04/2012 7:55:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: CharacterCounts
What has he done to appease the Tea Party?

Pretending to be a conservative.

1,092 posted on 05/04/2012 7:56:54 PM PDT by danielmryan
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To: Keith in Iowa

“A vote for Romney as the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil.”

I genuinely respect your opinion. But from my vantage point, I am ALWAYS voting for the lesser of two evils. There has never been a candidate that has perfectly mirrored my opinions/values.


1,093 posted on 05/04/2012 7:57:14 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Jim Robinson

JR - So glad you have a central and logical plan for this call to action. I am glad to hear YOU say these things in order that many other FREEPERS might unite to defeat Obama, and continue the TEA Party fight will the eye on the presidency in the future. We must only look back to the radical of the Dem party and 1960s to see the ilk or Hillary, the anti-war movement, the black panthers, el at., have taken the reins of the Dem party so it is essential that the TEA Party’s goals remain firm and long term!


1,094 posted on 05/04/2012 7:58:36 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Lots of FReepers get government bennies. Our nation is hopelessly divided right now and even liberals and conservatives are divided among themselves.

The handout crowd is not divided at all. They will vote for whomever promises them the biggest handout. Realistically, because of this fact, our nation is probably on the decline as predicted by our founding fathers.

We could elect the next coming of Ronaldus Magnus and he would probably be voted out on his bum in four years. The GOP would get massacred in the mid-terms. That is our new reality. That is why it is even more important now to keep SCOTUS as the defender of the constitution.

Replace Ginsburg with an identical Justice and we won’t notice. Replace Kennedy with another Harvard radical and we notice immediately. God forbid that something happens to Scalia or Thomas and the replacement is another Harvard radical and we will regret it for decades.


1,095 posted on 05/04/2012 7:59:17 PM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids can pay for it!)
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To: Persevero

This is a perfectly logical question.

For the never-Romneys, the issue seems to be that does the supposedly friendly candidate ever become so horribly bad that boycotting him makes sense. Romney is hovering near that drain.


1,096 posted on 05/04/2012 7:59:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: ex-snook

“Christie’s first decision was to select a pro-choice running mate as Lt Gov. She would take over if he leaves.”

Indeed, and I disapprove. Christie is however outspokenly pro-life. I don’t know his justification for choosing his Lt. Gov. Obviously his concern over the issue is not as paramount as I would like it to be.


1,097 posted on 05/04/2012 7:59:51 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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Added a tag....

Thank you DJ.. simplest it can get ;)


1,098 posted on 05/04/2012 7:59:58 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist or Patriot)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Someone else brought up a good point much earlier in the thread.. If you leave it blank.. it is an opportunity for someone else to do a write in for you.. :/


1,099 posted on 05/04/2012 8:01:58 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist or Patriot)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

“n. Maybe the focus for the next four years should be on increasing the conservative presence is the House and Senate. Just because, for one thing and also to encourage Pres. Romney to steer to the right whenever he is inclined to waver. “

I agree.

So, let’s find and get behind the ONE best candidate for 2020. And not have the circular firing squad. If a FReeper prefers a candidate who is not the “official” choice of FR, in my opinion (I know I don’t run things!) that could be fine, but, no ugly name calling assassination accusation type stuff.

I’d have rather had Bachmann, Cain, Santorum, Perry, or Newt than Romney. I was careful not to get seriously negative about ANYONE except Paul. It is very counter-productive.


1,100 posted on 05/04/2012 8:02:15 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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