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Election Strategy for Conservatives
Free Republic Exclusive! | 5-1-12 | Antoninus

Posted on 05/01/2012 8:52:08 PM PDT by Antoninus

Let's face it. The second Mitt Romney becomes the Republican nominee for president, conservatives have lost the 2012 election. The time has come to attempt to make the best of a bad situation.

Please allow me to present my analysis of our current political situation and my worst- and best-case scenarios.

Worst outcome: Obama wins, Democrats Take Control of the Congress.
If that happens, conservatives have lost everything for the next generation at least. Nothing short of divine intervention could save us from socialism at that point.

Second worst outcome: Romney wins
If Romney wins, it doesn't matter who controls the Congress. Socialism will progress, and fast. Romney will have no opposition from Republicans and Democrats will only oppose to push him even further to the left. And he will acquiesce. That's his MO. Worse, Republicans will rightly get the blame for every piece of socialist legislation that Romney signs, resulting in catastrophic defeats in 2014 and a loss of the presidency in 2016 to an even more radical Democrat commanding even more insuperable majorities in Congress than Obama did in 2008.

Least bad outcome: Obama wins with less than 50% of the vote, Republicans control Congress with solid majorities in each house.
This could happen with the emergence of a strong conservative third party candidate that bleeds votes from Romney, giving Obama a Clinton-style non-mandate victory. A strong conservative third party would also have the effect of energizing otherwise apathetic conservatives to come out and vote for conservative Republicans down-ticket, even while voting against Liberal Mitt on the top line. The resulting government produces only gridlock which keeps us in the fight with momentum leading into 2014 and 2016.

Given this, I have decided, for the first time in my life, to vote for a Third Party candidate for president in November. If no one with more national name recognition emerges, Virgil Goode will be getting my vote. I encourage others to think about it and do likewise.

Conversely, you could delude yourself into thinking that Romney isn't as bad as his record clearly shows him to be and spend your time, treasure and energy helping to elect an admitted "progressive" to the presidency. If you decide to do that, God bless you. But don't claim you weren't warned.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2012; vanity
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To: Antoninus
I'm a Romney supporter because I pointed out your deeply flawed idiotic third party wet dream fantasy scenario? Add "clueless" to your political analysis resume.
81 posted on 05/01/2012 10:06:35 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: no dems; Jim Robinson
Anyone on here who even suggests that it would be o.k. for the Marxist Muslim, B. Hussein Obama, to get reelected should be banished from Free Republic and driven off to DU land where they belong.

Hey, if the boss wants to banish me, it's his website and he is free to do so.

And for the record, I never said it would be "ok" if Obama was re-elected. He has been an awful president and deserves defeat. Unfortunately, the GOP nomination has been purchased by a leftist in disguise whom conservatives must not support.

I said, specifically, that a seriously weakened Obama checked by a Republican Congress is our least bad option at this point. I also said I would never vote for him -- that i will be voting for Virgil Goode. Capiche?
82 posted on 05/01/2012 10:06:52 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: Antoninus; Tex-Con-Man

>>You’re a Romney supporter. Gotcha. Just don’t claim to be a conservative, ok? You’re supporting a liberal. <<

Your all-to-clever (OK, silly) responses to all finally are bared to their bones. You would rather have 4 more years of obozo than admit we have an imperfect candidate (he actually sucks quite a bit).

You are just looking to be politically pure so you can say “told ya so” after next November.

You don’t STAND for anything — you just fold like a cheap suit and are grabbing the nearest pole. Vote for jonny b goode if that trips your trigger. You and the 114 other people can pat yourselves on the back while an unabated obama completes his mission to destroy America.

Look up “Pyrrhic Victory” after you unbend your arm.


83 posted on 05/01/2012 10:12:14 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: D-fendr
A key part of your recommendation is the re-election of Obama, this is part of what you are advocating and promoting. I think this is very close to: Keeping the Obama regime in power is a good idea.

We have no good options at this point. Only bad ones. I'm pointing out the least bad one from my perspective. One shouldn't interpret "least bad" to equal "good".

Your alternate strategy is: "Close your eyes and vote for Romney." In my opinion, we will do much better to face facts and act strategically rather than succumb to the "sky is falling!" hysteria. The Republican Party has done such a piss poor job of advancing the conservative agenda over the past 12 years that we owe them no allegiance. They are part of the problem.
84 posted on 05/01/2012 10:12:59 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: freedumb2003

Spare me Killer.


85 posted on 05/01/2012 10:13:08 PM PDT by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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To: Antoninus

Oh, so now you are pinging daddy. DADDY DADDY, I AGREE WITH YOU AND PEOPLE ARE BEING MEAN TO ME!!

What a schlemiel.


86 posted on 05/01/2012 10:13:48 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: no dems; Antoninus
should be banished

Antoninus is a long-time freeper. I think having to read and manage this thread may be sufficient penance - provided he repents of course.

:)

87 posted on 05/01/2012 10:15:24 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: magglepuss

>>Spare me Killer<<

IOW, you can’t refute me. You are not the first to wither in the cross-hairs of simple analysis and won’t be the last.

But thanks for playing. We have the home game version of “I care more about me than the USA” we will send with you as a parting gift.


88 posted on 05/01/2012 10:16:13 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: Antoninus
I'm pointing out the least bad one from my perspective.

And I'm pointing out that keeping this regime in power is the most baddest one from my perspective. My alternative is: Don't do that!

89 posted on 05/01/2012 10:16:56 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

>>Antoninus is a long-time freeper. I think having to read and manage this thread may be sufficient penance - provided he repents of course.<<

LOL!!!!


90 posted on 05/01/2012 10:17:21 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: Antoninus
Not voting for Romney here. You all have fun worshiping
the Gop-e who could care less for a conservative. One day, maybe you will wake up to see they don't fight for American traditions. This is the McCain/Romney party now.
91 posted on 05/01/2012 10:17:49 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: freedumb2003

Again, spare me Killer!


92 posted on 05/01/2012 10:18:15 PM PDT by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
I'm a Romney supporter because I pointed out your deeply flawed idiotic third party wet dream fantasy scenario? Add "clueless" to your political analysis resume.

No, you're a Romney supporter because you're a whiny baby who can't take criticism without flying into a sanctimonious hissy fit. That's how Romney supporters operate.
93 posted on 05/01/2012 10:20:05 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: Antoninus
My Dog is named Shasta.

If you write in “Shasta” on your Ballot, it will have the same impact on the Election results that Voting for “Goode” will.

As Mark Levin says, you Vote your favorite Candidate in the Primary and you Vote your Party's Candidate in the General.
In other words, Anybody But Obama.

It is very simple. Some FReepers agree with Mark Levin and others do not, including Jim. Since we still have a Secret Ballot in this Country, all of us will make our final decision while standing in the Voting Booth.

Up to that point we will continue to argue our side of the coin, which is beginning to feel like a waste of time that is causing a fair amount of derision on this Board.

What it comes down to is all this back and forth will not change a thing. I have yet to see one FReeper posting that their mind was changed because another Freeper convinced them that their position was wrong. Just my two cents...

94 posted on 05/01/2012 10:20:33 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: Antoninus

>>We have no good options at this point. Only bad ones. I’m pointing out the least bad one from my perspective. One shouldn’t interpret “least bad” to equal “good”.<<

Your “strategy” (actually a tactic but trying to explain the difference to you would be like explaining opera to a great dane) results in an obama re-election.

Elections have consequences. We have had 3-1/2 years of the results of the “politically pure.” Do not dodge. Wear your “re-elect obama” hat proudly. Don’t be mealy mouthed. Announce your desire for another 4 years of the worst and most anti-liberty, anti-American president ever.

Be a man and stand behind your stance.


95 posted on 05/01/2012 10:21:50 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: D-fendr

“Start with: Remove this regime from power. That’s the primary mission in this election.”

Amen, FRiend. You said it, I say it, Andrew Breitbart said it - emphatically and passionately.

Anyone who thinks a conservative House and Senate will deter BHO is seriously mistaken. (First, we need Repubs to defeat as many Dems as possible, but all the Repubs won’t be as conservative as we dream about). Regardless, BHO’d no longer have to worry about votes in a second term and the cuffs will really be off then - he’ll go around Congress, thumbing his nose at them and any courts who rule against him, to accomplish his treasonous goals with unaccountable czars and cabinet members (he’s doing these things already, but it’d be ten times more so if re-elected).

No, all the “normal” rules are out the window with this arrogant, audacious, America-hating usurper and he has the powerful media giving him cover.

The only prayer we have for our country to survive is to GET BHO OUT, period.

Then, and only then, can we go on from there.


96 posted on 05/01/2012 10:22:43 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: magglepuss

>>Again, spare me Killer!<<

If that’s all you got, then res ipsa loquater, baby.


97 posted on 05/01/2012 10:23:01 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: Antoninus
And for the record, I never said it would be "ok" if Obama was re-elected.

Least bad outcome: Obama wins with less than 50% of the vote, Republicans control Congress with solid majorities in each house. This could happen with the emergence of a strong conservative third party candidate that bleeds votes from Romney, giving Obama a Clinton-style non-mandate victory .

Describing it as the "least bad outcome" sure sounds like you're "OK" with it to me.

98 posted on 05/01/2012 10:23:57 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Antoninus

This is such a stupid @ss thread, like all the others trying to convince each other how to vote. It’s a waste of time that degrades into verbal sparring on level with pissy 3rd grade girls on the playground. News flash, we all know it sucks to have Mitt. Shut up and vote however the hell you want, but don’t expect your emotional outburst vanity post to change anyones mind.


99 posted on 05/01/2012 10:25:23 PM PDT by FightforFreedomCA (I WILL be voting on November 6th to evict the current pResident.)
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To: Antoninus
Using your own criteria, you're an Obama supporter...you said you want him reelected.
100 posted on 05/01/2012 10:26:42 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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