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Truth or Consequences
Texas Monthly ^ | May 2012 | Joe Hagen

Posted on 04/20/2012 9:30:26 PM PDT by Aria

Eight years ago, Dan Rather broadcast an explosive report on the Air National Guard service of President George W. Bush. It was supposed to be the legendary newsman’s finest hour. Instead, it blew up in his face, tarnishing his career forever and casting a dark cloud of doubt and suspicion over his reporting—and that of every other journalist on the case. This month, as Rather returns with a new memoir, Joe Hagan finally gets to the bottom of the greatest untold story in modern Texas politics, with exclusive, never-before-seen details that shed fresh light on who was right, who was wrong, and what really happened.

(Excerpt) Read more at texasmonthly.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: buckhead; bush; rather
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Long article - basically saying that Rather was set up and Buckhead was part of this and admitted it and there actually were typewriters back in the day that would have typed the way we saw on the National Guard report.

This was sent to me by a liberal. Wondering what you guys think. Sounds very far fetched to me - not to mention irrelevant but it is curious.

1 posted on 04/20/2012 9:30:36 PM PDT by Aria
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To: Aria

A LibTurd LSD induced wet dream.


2 posted on 04/20/2012 9:33:38 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Aria

3 posted on 04/20/2012 9:36:24 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: SandRat

Well, one thing it would mean if true is that the GOP is not the Totally Stupid Party.


4 posted on 04/20/2012 9:37:15 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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I read the whole screed after it was posted on FR a few days ago. The author spends 90% of his time bashing Bush and trying to connect dots that can’t be connected, then almost in passing dismisses the “fake but acccurate” forgeries as unimportant because someone dredged up a typewriter from the 70s that has superscripts. Of course, we knew that all along, the point being that the faked documents were FAKES, they never existed in typewritten form. The technical forensic analysis showed the documents were absolutely identical to a modern Word document and no typewriter would have ever produced output that perfectly matched to a computer output 30+ years later.

FAKE Fake fake, Rather is a lying partisan publicity hack who is driven by his steaming pile of ego to try to prove he was an actual journalist before he dies, and he ain’t gonna make it.

Rather’s only purpose on earth has been to create the “Fake but Accurate” standard for left-wing forgery by which future fabrications can be judged.


5 posted on 04/20/2012 9:51:49 PM PDT by bigbob
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I didn’t realize it was posted here before. Search doesn’t always work.

The whole thing seems really far fetched.


6 posted on 04/20/2012 10:11:40 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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This article is overlong leftist lies and craziness.

There is one key point, deep into the article, where the author finally gets to the point and there his whole argument immediately breaks down:

The morning before the broadcast was scheduled to air, CBS showed the memos to the White House for a response. Dan Bartlett was the network’s contact. Before Bartlett was interviewed, he emailed copies of the memos to Albert Lloyd, Bush’s longtime National Guard expert. In an interview in 2008, Lloyd told me he immediately recognized them as forgeries: “I looked at them and I said, ‘Don’t do a damned thing with these, because these are fake.”

Bartlett, however, appears to have ignored Lloyd’s assessment. When asked by CBS whether he doubted the authenticity of the memos, Bartlett replied, “I’m not saying that at all,” adding that he only questioned the timing of their release. His interpretation of the memos, in fact, was that they “reaffirm what we’ve said all along.”

And so, on September 8, Rather’s report aired on the Wednesday edition of 60 Minutes.

So the article claims that someone in the Bush White House recognized the documents as forgeries right away and says "Don’t do a damned thing with these, because these are fake.". What does that even mean? Then the article claims "Bartlett, however, appears to have ignored Lloyd’s assessment," because he didn't say that the documents were fake. How does that make sense? So CBS uses the documents, claiming that they are real, and then gets in trouble for doing so. But then the article turns around and claims that the objections to the authenticity of the documents proved not to be accurate.

So what is it? Are the documents forgeries or not? The article doesn't say. It notes that the White House concluded that they were fake right away but does not say why. It faults the White House for not warning CBS that the documents were fake and theorizes that it was a deliberate set-up to withhold this assessment. But then the article states that the case against the documents collapsed leaving the impression that they are real.

Only a crazy, evil leftist would claim so many contradictory things at once.

7 posted on 04/20/2012 10:22:11 PM PDT by rogue yam
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8 posted on 04/20/2012 10:25:15 PM PDT by Bratch
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this is why I don’t buy Texas Monthly.


9 posted on 04/20/2012 10:40:16 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Bratch

“What’s the frequency, Kenneth?”


10 posted on 04/20/2012 11:00:46 PM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: bigbob
" “Fake but Accurate”"

"There's no evidence so we must investigate."

"If you don't, we'll just nationalize . . . uh."

yitbos

11 posted on 04/20/2012 11:14:45 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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there’s the BS in the story about proportional typewriters existing in 1973. They did, but they ware TYPESETTERS, not used to write memos by secretaries.

Can you imagine a secretary banging out all her memos on a refrigerator sized typesetter costing 100,000$ Didn’t happen. Would never happen.

They STILL are not admitting the papers were FAKE, even after the secretary who supposedly typed them said they were fake!

Who says people are rational creatures? This is certifiable insanity that they won’t let go of


12 posted on 04/20/2012 11:20:08 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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Thanks ....I will use your comment to debunk the liberal.


13 posted on 04/20/2012 11:26:40 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: freekitty

Austin is the liberal armpit of Texas. Imagine how they feel when all major state official are Republicans of one sort or another. The irony here is that Bush is closer ideologically to them than the liberal Republican speaker. Once they chose to demonize someone, they refuse to look at exculpatory evidence.


14 posted on 04/21/2012 12:16:22 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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Agreed, these crazies simply do not like the truth!!!The whole story attempted to cast aspersion on the original conclusions and vindicate Rather based on new revelations. Nothing like that happened as a result of this story. Keep on moving, nothing new here but the same old crybaby horseshxxt.
15 posted on 04/21/2012 12:30:04 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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“Truth or Consequences” a place in New Mexico?

It always makes me think of: “By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.” (Proverbs 16:6)


16 posted on 04/21/2012 1:36:07 AM PDT by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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“Truth or Consequences” a place in New Mexico?

It always makes me think of: “By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.” (Proverbs 16:6)


17 posted on 04/21/2012 1:36:08 AM PDT by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: RobbyS

It sure is. Actually, I thought the music was better in Fort Worth; especially the blues.


18 posted on 04/21/2012 1:36:31 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: bigbob
"I read the whole screed after it was posted on FR a few days ago.

FAKE Fake fake, Rather is a lying partisan publicity hack who is driven by his steaming pile of ego to try to prove he was an actual journalist before he dies, and he ain’t gonna make it."

Thanks for reading it. I couldn't waste that much time.
Lt. Dan is a washed up has been never was. He will always be remembered as a liar.

19 posted on 04/21/2012 3:25:29 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Cold War Veteran. . . . US Army Security Agency 1964-1968)
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At the time this was supposedly going down, 1972-1973, I was working in a print shop that had one of the few varieties of machines that would produce right and left justified type directly on paper. One would type a line at a time and after the line was complete, one pushed a button and the machine would print that line on paper. It was slow, clumsy and even an experienced operator made lots of mistakes. No one would have used such a device to type memos.


20 posted on 04/21/2012 3:44:16 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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