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Here are your presidential choices as it stands today
April 16, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/16/2012 10:47:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Here are their positions on some major issues important to conservatives based on their actual records in government or past boasts.

Issue Obama Romney Newt
Advocated that abortion s/b safe & legal in America y y n
Defended Roe v Wade as settled law y y n
Advocated for abortion for underage girls without parental approval with judge's ok y y n
Supported planned parenthood y y n
Introduced $50 taxpayer funded abortion y y n
Supports homosexual agenda y y n
Better for homosexuals than Ted Kennedy y y n
Ok with homosexuals in Scouts y y n
Ok with homosexuals in military y y n
Supported and still supports global warming hoax y y n
Supports gun control (so-called "assault weapons" ban) y y n
Supports amnesty for illegal aliens (by any other name it's still amnesty) y y n
Is undeniable father of RomneyCare n y n
Is undeniable grandfather of ObamaCare n y n
Still boasts that RomneyCare is great! y y n
Still boasts that RomneyCare is a "conservative solution" n y n
Still believes RomneyCare is constitutional y y n
Still believes individual mandate ok at state level y y n
Believes state forcing individuals to buy health insurance is a conservative idea n y n
Believes compulsory health insurance with mandates and penalties s/b imposed on all states at state level n y n
Believes compulsory health insurance at state level is constitutional (states rights) ? y n
Believes the state has constitutional power to force you into a private contract against your will for no other reason than you live there y y n
Supports government "stimulus" spending claims more is necessary y y n
Believes personal income tax should be cut drastically (15% flat tax) n n y
Believes corp income tax should be cut drastically (12.5% corp rate) n n y
Believes capital expenditures should be 100% expensed in first year n n y
Believes capital gains tax should be eliminated n n y
Believes estate tax (death tax) should be eliminated n n y
Believes federal government must be drastically cut per constitutional limits n n y
Believes unconstitutional federal functions like education should be returned to the states and people per tenth amendment n n y
Believes social security/medicare s/b phased out/privatized/returned to states and people n n y
Believes everyone at EPA should be fired and start over as an agency to look for solutions/not hinder industry n n y
Believes the constitution restricts the government from infringing on inalienable rights n n y
Appoints/supports/cowers to liberal activist judges y y n
Will challenge activist judiciary n n y
Believes in founding principles and has best conservative record to back it up n n y


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To: Jim Robinson
I voted for Gingrich in the Massachusetts primary back in early March. There's nothing I can really do now but watch the rest of the primaries unfold and unless we start seeing upsets of epic, historic proportions in the remaining primaries, Romney is unfortunately going to coast to the GOP nomination.

I do believe it's third party time. The GOP has been serving us up RINO presidential nominees since 1988. And as much as I liked Reagan, he did not do us any favors by choosing RINO George Bush as his running mate in 1980. (The VP slot on the ticket matters!)

Sarah Palin/Allen West is my dream 3rd Party ticket - that I would crawl through broken glass for - but there are other combinations that can get the job done in 2012 and it's not too late. At this juncture in 1992, nobody knew who Ross Perot was but by June, he was leading both Bush and Clinton in most polls. If not for the Perot campaign imploding and some rather odd behavior on the part of Perot that has still not been explained, I think he could have pulled it out. As it was, he still ended up with 20% of the vote which tells you even back then how hungry the American people were for a legitimate third party candidate.

Whether or not a legitimate third party option arises, I am going to take your advice on the downticket races as our best shot to minimize or even neutralize the damage of Romney presidency or a second Obama term is to INCREASE GOP majority in the House and GAIN GOP majority in the Senate by electing as many Tea Party candidates as we can.

101 posted on 04/16/2012 11:51:59 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 28 days away from outliving Phil Hartman)
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To: Windflier

Has ROMNEY been a man to take Ownership for RomneyCARE's Death Panels?

Has ROMNEY been a man to take Ownership for his Team's attacks
against Sen. Thompson, GOP candidates, proofers, Gov. Palin, and her children
Mr. Cain, Speaker Gingrich and the others?

Has ROMNEY been a man to take Ownership for HIS contribution
to the attack on the Maucks?



Probe: Mitt missed chance to keep Tavares jailed - Could have nixed killer’s early exit

Friday, December 28, 2007 - Boston Herald
"Former Gov. Mitt Romney’s administration failed to act on disciplinary recommendations
that would have kept ex-con killer Daniel Tavares locked up another year -
and behind bars at the time he was accused of killing a newlywed couple in Washington state."

"Despite Tavares’ long history of violence, the Romney-led Department of Correction
took no action on recommendations that he be stripped of “good time” because
of assaults on prison guards in 2003 and 2005, said sources familiar with a state probe into the case."

Once again as Romney let conservatism slide (never had it anyway)
Romney made certain that they died.


"Governor Mitt Romney, who touts his conservative credentials to out-of-state Republicans,
has passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced
,
instead tapping registered Democrats or independents -- including two gay lawyers who
have supported expanded same-sex rights, a Globe review of the nominations has found.
Of the 36 people Romney named to be judges or clerk magistrates, 23 are either registered Democrats
or unenrolled voters who have made multiple contributions to Democratic politicians
or who voted in Democratic primaries, state and local records show.
In all, he has nominated nine registered Republicans, 13 unenrolled voters,
and 14 registered Democrats."
- Boston Globe 7/25/2005


Romney Rewards one of the State's Leading Anti-Marriage Attorneys by Making him a Judge
Romney told the U.S. Senate on June 22, 2004, that the "real threat to the States is not the
constitutional amendment process, in which the states participate,
but activist judges who disregard the law and redefine marriage . . ."
Romney sounds tough but yet he had no qualms advancing the legal career of one
of the leading anti-marriage attorneys.
He nominated Stephen Abany to a District Court.
Abany has been a key player in the Massachusetts Lesbian and Gay Bar Association which,
in its own words, is "dedicated to ensuring that the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court decision
on marriage equality is upheld, and that any anti-gay amendment or legislation is defeated."
- U.S. Senate testimony by Gov. Mitt Romney, 6/22/2004 P>


"Romney announces he won't fill judicial vacancies before term ends
Despite his rhetoric about judicial activism, Romney announced that
he won't fill all the remaining vacancies during his term - but instead
leave them for his liberal Democrat successor!

Governor Mitt Romney pledged yesterday not to make a flurry of lame-duck
judicial appointments in the final days of his administration . . . David Yas,
editor of Lawyers Weekly, said Romney is "bucking tradition" by resisting the urge to
fill all remaining judgeships. "It is a tradition for governors to use that power to appoint judges
aggressively in the waning moments of their administration," Yas said.
He added that Romney has been criticized for failing to make judicial appointments.
"The legal community has consistently criticized him for not filling open seats quickly enough
and being a little too painstaking in the process and being dismissive of the input of the
Judicial Nominating Commission," Yas said.
- Boston Globe 11/2/2006

"We fool them all, over and over."

102 posted on 04/16/2012 11:52:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lazamataz

Dittos


103 posted on 04/16/2012 11:54:25 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: sam_paine
"The convention changes nothing."

Fair enough. Wondering why everyone was trying so hard to win the nomination if it doesn't mean anything.

That sort of intellectual dishonesty is unbecoming on you. You know full well that many of us are rallying around the only conservative left in the race.

The nomination means everything. If Romney gets it, America loses, no matter who wins in the Fall. If Newt gets it, the whole ugly picture shifts 180 degrees over the next four years, because he'll beat the ever-lovin' snot out of Obama and go on to enact a true reform agenda.

104 posted on 04/16/2012 11:55:11 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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105 posted on 04/16/2012 11:56:16 AM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham; Jim Robinson

I’ll vote for Obama, just to make a statement.
_____________________________________________
and what would that statement be?

So..... now FR is becoming a pro-Obama site? If that happens, it will be the end of FR. Not supporting Romney yet supporting obama are NOT THE SAME THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


106 posted on 04/16/2012 11:58:02 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I am not yet ruling out a miracle.

Newt wins.

Sarah wins.

Palin/West run as a third party.

Romney becomes a Conservative. ....Nah, there are some things even God can't do, like make a square a circle. (James MacDonald)

107 posted on 04/16/2012 11:58:08 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m starting to think that everyone who replies to one of these threads with this “Well then who are you going to vote for?” nonsense is just a soft Romneybot.


108 posted on 04/16/2012 11:58:32 AM PDT by arderkrag ("WAAHH WAAAHHH SCOTUS" is no excuse to vote for Romney. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Well, that's OK if they have an (R) instead of a (D) after there name, right? ABO only goes so far when the ABO you are going to hold your nose and vote for is no better than Obama.


109 posted on 04/16/2012 11:58:53 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim:

There was a time not too many months ago when you referred to Newt as something like "marginally preferable.....barely acceptable as a conservative"

Glad to see you've come round.

110 posted on 04/16/2012 11:59:44 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Oh, no!! Uzbeks have drunk my battery fluid!)
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To: vetvetdoug

The only viable conservative action is to not vote for President. Only when Socialist Republicans get <30% of the vote will the party understand Conservatism matters.


111 posted on 04/16/2012 12:00:33 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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To: Nachum

For the “list”.


112 posted on 04/16/2012 12:00:52 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I do not expect the (FR) house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided-Jim Robinson)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX; Jim Robinson
I get the greatest kick out of getting you folks wound up!!! And.....you fall for it every single time!!!

So, you're simply here to disrupt these discussions, is that correct?

I wonder how Mr. Robinson feels about that?

113 posted on 04/16/2012 12:01:07 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mnehring

great comment, thanks


114 posted on 04/16/2012 12:02:12 PM PDT by Weirdad (Don't put up with ANY voter fraud...)
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To: Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; Tennessee Nana; ...

Ping


115 posted on 04/16/2012 12:02:55 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I do not expect the (FR) house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided-Jim Robinson)
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To: Jim Robinson

Mind if I borrow this? I can add some color for Pos/Neg for easier reading..

(and then change to pic so it’s easy to spread the info to many outlets)


116 posted on 04/16/2012 12:03:12 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: AbnSarge

“This is my last election,” said Obama.
__________________________________________
I wonder what he means. Assuming he means he’s gone one way or the other in 2012 or 2016, but hoping he didn’t mean he is there to stay, but there won’t be anymore elections.


117 posted on 04/16/2012 12:03:59 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: sam_paine

If you’re urging people to vote for Romney, you’re a RINO pusher. Worse, you give your consent to the GOP in supporting abortion, tax payer funded abortion, teaching sodomy to school children (the homosexual agenda), homos leading scouts astray, homos in the military, hate crimes, liberal activist judges, compulsory socialized healthcare, government forcing people to enter into private contracts against their will in violation of their inalienable rights, statism, fascism, socialism, etc.

Our founders recognized that our inalienable rights come from God. Our nation was founded on the principle that these rights are sacred and not to be violated and that government derives its “just” powers at the consent of the governed.

I hereby withhold my consent for the government (including uber statists such as Romney or Obama) to trample on my God-given inalienable rights!!

I vote NAY on statism!!


118 posted on 04/16/2012 12:04:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Windflier
You know full well that many of us are rallying around the only conservative left in the race.

Yeah, well there seem to be more "teach the GOP a lesson" than there are rallyers for Newt.

I think the true disaster is that our choices from the beginning have disappointed one after the other.

And based on Newt's recent comments that he could be "ver, very enthusiastic" for Romney if he wins the nom, I've already got a gut-shot from him. Is he just going to accrue as much conservative campaign contributions as he can and then turn around and stab us in the back with a Willard endorsement?

119 posted on 04/16/2012 12:04:59 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: onyx

I would pay lots of money just to see Newt rip him to shreds.


120 posted on 04/16/2012 12:05:36 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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