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[NY] City unveils plan for first solar and wind farm
Crain's NY (free registration reqd) ^ | March 20, 2012 | Jeremy Smerd

Posted on 03/21/2012 5:51:12 AM PDT by ml/nj

The Bloomberg administration asks private companies to design, build and operate a renewable energy plant on 75 acres of the former Fresh Kills Landfill in Staten Island. ---

Earlier this month, the city proposed turning garbage into energy. Now it wants to turn a former garbage heap on Staten Island into an energy farm.

The city is asking private companies to design, build and operate a wind and solar farm on 75 acres of the former Fresh Kills Landfill, Deputy Mayor for Operations Caswell Holloway announced at a Crain's forum Tuesday morning. It would be the first commercial-grade operation of its kind here.

The energy farm could produce up to 20 megawatts of power—enough for about 6,000 homes, but a fraction of the 13,000 megawatts the city requires when demand peaks. Still, the farm would double the city's piddling 6.4 megawatts of solar energy production. Wind production is currently just 50 kilowatts.

The request for proposals issued Tuesday is part of Mayor Michael Bloomberg's last-term push—“t-minus 651 days, but who's counting?” said Mr. Holloway—to bake his environmental agenda into the DNA of the city.

Mr. Holloway, in his previous post as commissioner of the Department of Environmental Protection, drafted a plan to make roads and sidewalks more water absorbent to limit the overflows that wash raw sewage into New York Harbor when it rains.

Clarification: The Bloomberg administration's wind and solar farm could produce up to 20 megawatts of power—enough for about 6,000 homes, but a fraction of the 13,000 megawatts the city requires when demand peaks. An earlier version of this article said the farm could produce 15 megawatts of electricty for about 3,300 homes. The administration revised that number upward.

(Excerpt) Read more at crainsnewyork.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: solar; windmill
More insanity from Bloomberg.

Even the "Clarification" at the end is amusing. I guess someone figured out that they had to say they were going to generate more power than is used by a small NYC government office.

We can all take comfort that Deputy Mayor for Operations Caswell Holloway, who priviously drafted a plan to make roads and sidewalks more water absorbent, will be at the helm.

ML/NJ

1 posted on 03/21/2012 5:51:26 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: steelyourfaith

Greenieweenie Ping.


2 posted on 03/21/2012 6:07:15 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: ml/nj

Welcome to NYC

May be closed at night and on cloudy days.

May be open other times depending on the wind.


3 posted on 03/21/2012 6:08:50 AM PDT by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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To: ml/nj

How many billions they flushing down the crapper this time?

Pray for NY


4 posted on 03/21/2012 6:16:29 AM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: ml/nj

Bloomberg simulateously announces slogan change from “The City That Never Sleeps” to “The City That Sucks Wind”.


5 posted on 03/21/2012 6:19:35 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

“simultaneously”


6 posted on 03/21/2012 6:20:18 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: ml/nj
You would think that Bloomberg would show a little more concern for his citizens. Who wants to breathe this stuff?


7 posted on 03/21/2012 6:22:49 AM PDT by ILS21R (John Locke: When the social contract is broken, the people must revolt.)
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To: ml/nj

I did not know that Bloomberg had any controlling interest in any wind and solar companies. This could just be a payoff arranged during the Obama/Bloomberg March 11 meeting together. Payment for Bloomberg support in New York during the 2012 election.


8 posted on 03/21/2012 6:27:21 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: ml/nj

The new Prairie State coal plan in Illinois requires 1.5 acres per MW INCLUDING the coal mine. This ridiculous proposal by Bloomberg requires 5 acres per MW.

The coal plant will run 24x7 generating economical and reliable baseload power and will have a capacity factor close to 80%. The wind and solar plan will run only when the wind blows and the sun shines and you can’t control (or “dispatch”) the power. It’s capacity factor will probably be less than 25%.

With such terrible characteristics, wind and solar are HUGE wastes of our resources and terrible investments. But envirokooks still believe in utopia and will never listen to facts.


9 posted on 03/21/2012 6:30:14 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ml/nj
The wind resource in the Staten Island area is poor, even by wind industry standards. The net capacity factor" of a potential wind farm would likely be around 25-30%, which would require the wind energy to be sold at a very high price in order to justify the investment.

Wind energy where it's windy makes sense. Wind energy on Staten Island makes no sense.

10 posted on 03/21/2012 6:36:31 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: ml/nj
Here's how foolish this project is.
The Florida Power & Light company’s 75MW solar complex is an excellent example of the lunacy of trying to run an economy on alternative energy. This complex occupies 500 acres and is adjacent to the same company’s natural gas plant that generates a massive 3.8 gigawatts, electricity that is available whenever needed. The difference in output between the two plants makes for a staggering comparison between alternative energy and centralised energy production. We can easily calculate that the solar complex requires 33.3 times the area of the gas plant just to produce a wretched 0.0197 of its output. (A gigawatt is 1000,000,000 watts.)

To produce 3.8 gigawatts the solar complex would need to cover 25,333.3 acres or 39.6 square miles as against 15 square acres for the gas plant. Making the comparison even worse is the fact that the solar complex can only produce electricity one-third of the time, proving that the insurmountable natural and economic obstacles confronting alternative energy projects are not a myth.

Of course, all the greens know this and don't care.

11 posted on 03/21/2012 6:45:08 AM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: BfloGuy
...15 square acres...

What if the acres are rectangles or circles or irregular...?

12 posted on 03/21/2012 6:51:25 AM PDT by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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To: ml/nj
...asks private companies to design, build and operate....

How about Bloomberg investing his own capital in this boodoggle, including bankruptcy insurance.

13 posted on 03/21/2012 7:29:30 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: CPOSharky

Yawnnn......

Fresh Kills, home to the largest energy production facility in the world that never came to pass because of a few unelected liberals, who didn’t even live in the district.

Instead we pollute the oceans and pollute the air around us to get rid of a product which could have produced enough electricity to power the largest city on earth.

But it was done with the best of intentions.


14 posted on 03/21/2012 7:34:47 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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To: CPOSharky
What if the acres are rectangles or circles or irregular...?

Bloomberg wouldn't allow it. In fact, I hear he's not too crazy about the square ones, either. Says they're not inclusive.

15 posted on 03/21/2012 2:19:56 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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