Posted on 03/08/2012 8:03:47 AM PST by butterdezillion
A week ago today Sheriff Joe Arpaio held a press conference to report the preliminary findings of the Cold Case Posse. Mike Zullo, commander of the posse, reported that they had found probable cause for fraud and forgery of Obama's long-form birth certificate and draft registration, and that the posse was recommending a full criminal investigation. Sheriff Arpaio said the investigation would continue but that he would have to decide who, if anybody, to refer the case to for additional follow-up.
Those who perpetrated the forgeries and fraud defrauded the people of Maricopa County, Arizona. Arpaio has jurisdiction to investigate and prosecute that crime, but his ability to get warrants, require depositions, and issue inviolate subpoenas for official records is limited. And he would not have the ability to prosecute for FEDERAL crimes committed.
This means that Arpaio can only nicely ask the HDOH for the original records that will tell us what really happened. We know what Hawaii does with nice requests. The law doesn't REQUIRE one state to honor another state's subpoenas. The states generally work together on law enforcement, but Hawaii's government is in a class all its own. On the issue of FRAUD, the HDOH are implicated in the fraud itself, since they themselves acted as if what was online was genuine. So the State of Hawaii has its own potential criminality to cover up. They will not cooperate with Sheriff Joe or any investigation unless they can legally be FORCED to cooperate.
If we are going to have any semblance of the rule of law we need a federal investigation.
It can't be a DOJ investigation. As we've seen through Fast & Furious, the DOJ folks under AG Eric Holder are just as crooked as the criminals - perjuring themselves and refusing subpoenas regarding their own potential crimes of obstructing justice for Brian Terry, committing acts of war against Mexico by deliberately arming drug cartels with untrackable weapons, and other potential crimes.
We need Congress to initiate hearings and eventually appoint a special independent prosecutor to investigate and prosecute the federal crimes that the Cold Case Posse has uncovered, as well as many other crimes perpetrated to cover up Obama's documentation problem.
That is only going to happen if we literally BURY all our Congress-critters with DEMANDS for an investigation. Each of us should call our Senators, Representative, and the Oversight Committee - Darryl Issa's Office (ask specifically for Issa's office) at 202-225-5051.
The more people we can ping, e-mail, tweet, etc to get them to demand the simple rule of law - that known SERIOUS federal crimes be investigated and prosecuted - the more likely that our government will realize the people are awake and are not going to give up this country without a fight.
If we don't give them that message now, loudly and clearly, then we have no room to complain when even the appearance of the rule of law is abandoned for utter chaos. At this point the courts are so compromised they are a vain hope. (See http://www.coachisright.com/georgia-superior-court-refuses-to-consider-legal-appeal-of-obama-eligibility-ruling/ ) Crimes have been committed, and unless we are a banana republic, those crimes need to be investigated.
Here's a sample of what you might want to say:
After seeing the press conference that Sheriff Joe Arpaio held in Maricopa County -- it became obvious that a crime has been committed. Not only is the birth certificate fraudulently manufactured... but it was clear by Sheriff Joe's findings that the Selective Service card was fraudulently forged and manufactured. This is no longer about the minutia of the birth certificate any more. If the Selective Service card is a fraudulent produced document then by law -- it is illegal for Obama to hold ANY public office position... not even allowed to be Senator. There needs to be a congressional hearing held on this. When will that happen?
Please take a moment now to call your Senators and Representative (you can search for their phone number at http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt ), as well as the Oversight Committee at 202-225-5051 (remember to ask specifically for Issa). And then ping, e-mail, and tweet as many people as you can, asking them to do the same.
Thanks!
Odd, I have no problems with firefox...
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. It was either the Times or Pravda?
His reply:
Northeast Intelligence Network has threatened to sue us if our posters quote their “work.”
Jim
You’d think they’d be glad to have people link to their work though, wouldn’t you? How else would people be directed to their site?
His reply:
Northeast Intelligence Network has threatened to sue us if our posters quote their “work.”
Jim
You’d think they’d be glad to have people link to their work though, wouldn’t you? How else would people be directed to their site?
The times does not take op ed’s very often from people who are not national figures. The editorial process is hideous if you don’t fit into their pidgeon hole. This is true for a lot of American publications. And believe me, if you are discussing Barrys credentials and qualifications for POTUS, you will NOT get published. If you aren’t trying to publish in the states, then you don’t know just how hard it is. Pravda is a pleasure to deal with comparatively. If you don’t mind the time difference that is. Then your work gets picked up world wide, and gets brought into the US market that way.
Literally I am going around the MSM roadblocks. Otherwise, publish what the American MSM wants you to, and that falls into a small and narrow field. No thanks, I am not interested in conforming to a set of what amounts to censorship rules.
Ask yourself why the MSM isn’t discussing the fact that Law Enforcement officials have discovered that Barack Obama walked up the the White House Press Room Podium waving a forged document. Exactly.
I will push this in TN.
I don't see many articles from anti-American, anti-capitalist Pravda getting picked up in the United States. Maybe it's because I'm a conservative, and I don't usually frequent websites where such material would be published.
It's my understanding that the people who supposedly investigated this weren't actual law enforcement.
BFL
Thank you. It is imperative that we not give up now. This is the battle for civilization itself.
More on that at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2856546/posts?page=30#30
BS. YOur “understanding” is wrong, and whoever led you to that needs to be raked over the coals because the information is readily available all over the place: They were retired law enforcement officials (police detectives) who had first been trained by the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office and then deputized.
And if you had listened to the presser that you claim to be knowing about you would have heard Mike Zullo say they were only able to get the postal stamp that they mutilated in order to duplicate the draft registration’s forged postal stamp because they operated with the authority of the Sheriff.
This was a legitimate law enforcement body. All the excuses that “only nutjobs believe any of this stuff”/ “no credible authority has verified these claims” are unadulterated bullcrap.
Mike Zullo also said at the presser that for the first month of the investigation he was adamant that they were going to prove that what Obama presented was genuine, but that the evidence just wouldn’t allow them to go that way.
I've only heard about Mike Zullo, who is always referred to as a "detective," but one can be a private detective outside of law enforcement. Considering it's never been stated which department he worked for, I find this to be the most likely explanation.
Lame. Every article I’ve seen that talks about the posse refers to them as “retired law enforcement officers”. Zullo was previously in NJ law enforcement.
Incredible, that you would trust the “findings” of the 2 Factcheck creeps (who we now know did NOT see/photograph a document that had a seal already on it) but not somebody who was deputized by Sheriff Joe.
Says loads about how you analyze sources for credibility.
Is there any evidence for that? It seems to me that everyone is just assuming this "detective" was in law enforcement.
Incredible, that you would trust the “findings” of the 2 Factcheck creeps
I've never needed to rely on Factcheck, since the State of Hawaii has confirmed the validity of these documents. If they had said the documents were fake and they never printed them, then you wouldn't need to rely on Sheriff Arpaio's crack team of birthers.
Show me one place where the State of Hawaii ever said exactly what specific document for Obama was genuine. If they ever said it was what was posted on the WH website then they are guilty of fraud themselves and not just the misprision of fraud that they pretty much have to be guilty of already.
And you surely realize that you’re dealing with the same HDOH that has been proven to have included legally non-valid records on their 1960-64 birth index list which was the basis for Fukino’s claim that Obama was born in Hawaii (according to Deputy AG Jill Nagamine).
This is the same state government that refuses to give a guy a copy of his SISTER’S long-form birth certificate, even though he is expressly authorized to receive it in HRS 338-18(b) and Hawaii’s UIPA says that unless access to a record is forbidden by law it MUST be disclosed.
IOW, we are dealing with utterly lawless people in Hawaii. That is blatant at this point.
A quote:
“The posse, under the authority of Arpaio’s office, will consist of two former law enforcement officers and two retired attorneys, headed by Michael Zullo, a retired police detective originally from Bergen County, N.J.”
I was thinking more along the lines of their actual credentials.
That is really deliciously hypocritical, coming from somebody who cares not one whit about the “credentials” of the man who holds the nuclear football.
You’ll do ANYTHING to dance around the evidence and facts. Not gonna dance with you, Kleon. It’s a waste of time. You go ahead and do a rectal exam of Zullo while taking it in the shorts from Obama (whose every record is fraudulent) at every opportunity. I’ve got better things to do.
I did care, but I was satisfied with the short-form certificate released a long time ago, as were most people.
If I said I put together a team of experts that said the birth certificate was legit, you would ask what kind of experts they are and the extent of their expertise. Anyone doing an investigation who wants to be taken seriously should put that stuff forward to begin with.
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