[greyfoxx39]

So now, the doctrine of baptism of the dead "a fundamental tenet" has become instead a "tradition"?

"In these verses, the Prophet Joseph Smith taught the following principles:

1. The salvation of our dead ancestors is “essential to our salvation.” Our lives are closely tied to our ancestors’ lives, for we cannot become perfect without them nor they without us ( D&C 128:15 ).

2. Baptism for the dead is the “most glorious of all subjects belonging to the everlasting gospel” ( v. 17 ). This doctrine shows the love and mercy of an all-wise Father in Heaven. Baptism for the dead and other vicarious work makes it possible for all our Father’s children to receive the same blessings, and be judged on the same terms, whether or not they had a chance to accept the gospel in mortality. President Rudger Clawson said: “Oh, the beauty of the justice and mercy of God, who is no respecter of persons! And let it be remembered that what it takes to save one who is living; it takes just that much to save one who is dead.” (In Conference Report, Oct. 1931, p. 79.)

3. Baptism for the dead helps to prevent the earth from being smitten with a curse. As President Joseph Fielding Smith taught: “If Elijah had not come, we are led to believe that all the work of past ages would have been of little avail, for the Lord said the whole earth, under such conditions, would be utterly wasted at his coming. Therefore his mission was of vast importance to the world. It is not the question of baptism for the dead alone, but also the sealing of parents and children to parents, so that there should be a ‘whole and complete and perfect union, and welding together of dispensations, and keys, and powers, and glories,’ from the beginning down to the end of time.

“If this sealing power were not on the earth, then confusion would reign and disorder would take the place of order in that day when the Lord shall come, and, of course, this could not be, for all things are governed and controlled by perfect law in the kingdom of God.

“Why would the earth be wasted? Simply because if there is not a welding link between the fathers and the children—which is the work for the dead—then we will all stand rejected; the whole work of God will fail and be utterly wasted. Such a condition, of course, shall not be.” ( Doctrines of Salvation, 2:121–22.)"

Doctrine and Covenants Section 128-Baptism for the dead

[greyfoxx39]

Ping

[cripplecreek]

Guess I just don’t get the point of it. After all, God knows the difference.

[SkyDancer]

OMG! How ever will they be saved?

[reaganaut]

Yeah yeah yeah, they have said this before and never did a thing about it. What makes anyone think they are telling the truth this time? They have lied about it before.

If they were to really stop, then it would just be more proof Mormonism is false, led by false prophets, with a false god who bows to public pressure. That ain’t my God at all.

[T. P. Pole]

The “tradition” statement comes from “Abraham Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League” and not the LDS church.

[Ransomed]

What I don’t get is why they agree to stop when asked. It seems pretty cruel to deprive someone of a second chance to accept salvation just because someone living wants them to. Why would anyone agree to stop that if that’s what one truly believes?

Freegards

[metmom]

I guess they can recognize a PR problem when they see one.

[ansel12]

They know that they need to keep this on the “down low”.

They can violate our dead mothers and children and no one hears our pleas , but the celebrity baptisms are drawing attention.

[blueunicorn6]

If they really believe in it, why should they stop? They actually don’t want everyone to go to heaven now? Or is it another case of the mormon church changing doctrine when they get into trouble?

[RIghtwardHo]

But here’s the thing. It wasn’t the members submitting these names, it was the Church itself gathering these names. A letter to the Members is meaningless.

[JerseyHighlander]

This is the 12th time the Mormon Church sent out this lie about stopping these Baptisms since the early 1990's.

I have no doubt they'll be back to this religious practice as soon as this round of media scrutiny fades away.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Hey, go with the flow

[Terry Mross]

They always find scapegoats who will be punished.

So, did God speak to the president of the Mormon Church and tell him it should be stopped? Or was it Mitt who called?

Looks like God is going to tell them to make any change neccessary to get Mitt elected.

Seriously, after he gets the nomination the media is going to be all over this religion. They won’t say a word about obama and Islam killing people who don’t convert. But they’ll go after a religion that wants to baptize the entire world to try to get them to paradise.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

29 February

Letter From the Exalted and Glorious First Presidency of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints

We Command Ye that this proclaimation will be read to all Church corporations worldwide.

It has come to Our attention that the membership is in violation of the policies first stated in 1995 concerning the submission of names for Proxy Dead Dunking:

Our Preeminent obligation is to seek out and target our own ancestors. Those whose names are submitted for Proxy Dead Dunking should be related to the submitter.

Without exception, Corporation members must not submit for Proxy Dead Dunking any names from unauthorized politically sensitive groups, such as celebrities and Jewish Holocaust victims. If corporate members do so, they may forfeit their possible future exaltation and godhood. Other corrective action may also be taken. We will not further elaborate on this. Just remember the Curse of Ham. Think about it. In other words, stay out of the news until Our Man Mitt is elected. After that, you are again free to participate in Universal Proxy Dead Dunking.

In the future, we are also considering adding Proxy Cliff Diving and Proxy Olympic Events. [please strike that out before publishing - save for future revelation. - TSM]

Members are encouraged to participate in endless genealogy, which is vital to family history and Proxy Dead Dunking.

Volunteer, unpaid Bishops are asked to post this letter on their corporate bulletin boards. Corporate members may seek the assistance of the family history consultants in their area for additional information, if needed. Name submission policies are also clearly stated on New.FamilySearch.org.

We appreciate your obedience to these policies by all members of the Corporation. No doubt, you are well aware of our policy, "when the leaders have spoken, the thinking is done." Just obey.

Sincerely yours,
His Excellency Thomas S. Monson

Henry B. Eyring

Dieter F. Uchtdorf

Office of the Exalted and Glorious First Presidency

[montag813]

What a creepy cult...which also conveniently changes “dogma” on dime to suit its own P.R. needs.

[KJC1]

BTTT

One false prophet worshipper versus another...and that’s the best we should expect as Americans? I think not.

[Tennessee Nana]

Stop posthumous baptisms of “unauthorized groups, such as celebrities and Jewish Holocaust victims.”
_______________________________________________

and Nana’a happily-dead-as-Christians ancestors..

[Tennessee Nana]

Mormons who continue to embarrass the faith by submitting the names of celebrities and Holocaust victims for the proxy baptism rite will lose access to the Mormon genealogical records, the letter warns. “Other corrective action may also be taken,” it says.
______________________________________________

Oh noez

14 million mormons are scared now..

The worse punishment ever..

Surely its unconstitutional...

[Tennessee Nana]

Mormons who continue to embarrass the faith by submitting the names of celebrities and Holocaust victims for the proxy baptism rite will lose access to the Mormon genealogical records, the letter warns.
______________________________________________

So what happens to tennagers like tghe young Willard Mitt Romney who voluntry get wet in proxy for thoose listed ???

and Thomas Monson himself who allows and encourages the practice in the mormon temples ???

Someone in high authority allows the use of the temple cow bowls...

the common peon mormons dont just walk in and stealthy do this ..

[svcw]

Ya, don’t believe. I mean lds does seminars on lying so......