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I'm actually glad the USCCB didn't manage to get a custom-made loophole constructed for Catholic institutions tout court. The most serious danger to all of us would be the bishops managing to finesse this thing for church-related healthcare only, while leaving the rest of us stuck with this hellacious perversion of a government-corrupted system.

It's not just a problem with "the HHS mandate." It's certainly not just a matter of "Church institutions." The larger filthy tyranny --- Obamacare itself --- has to be taken down completely.

We live in interesting times.

1 posted on 03/03/2012 4:20:54 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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2 posted on 03/03/2012 4:22:46 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God:" 1 Peter 4:17)
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A hundred billion here, a hundred billion there, pretty soon your talking about some real money. With apologies to Everette Dirksen for paraphrasing.


3 posted on 03/03/2012 4:25:13 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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I just was just wondering today what would happen if the church decided to go Galt.


4 posted on 03/03/2012 4:25:52 PM PST by MNDude
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Obama doesn’t risk a cent. We do. Big difference. Like he cares.


5 posted on 03/03/2012 4:27:55 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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There are a lot of evangelical Christians who wouldn’t be happy with a “Catholic church only” exemption in Obamacare, and would continue to get on Obama’s case about it. And that’s just for starters.


6 posted on 03/03/2012 4:28:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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Earnest prayer and supplication on this one. Already praying for protection for our country. This tyranny must be defeated.


8 posted on 03/03/2012 4:31:02 PM PST by Pat4ever
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I don't think Obama cares if the hospitals shut down
as a matter of fact he would love that. They are going to ruin the whole private insurance industry as well then guess who takes over? The Government will insure you and the government will provide doctors for you well at least for the ones who are not too young or too old or too sick everyone else Obama will take care of you.
10 posted on 03/03/2012 4:35:33 PM PST by funfan (and his crew)
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The guy went ten TRILLION in the hole to payoff pals and hide the true state of the economy.
What's a hundred billion to a guy who doesn't even keep count of anything except the number of strokes his ego gets every day? Besides, it's pretty obvious that bankrupting insurance companies and closing hospitals is one of the goals of Barry Care. Catholic Hospitals closing is just a good start in his opinion.
11 posted on 03/03/2012 4:35:41 PM PST by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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We have 5 major hospitals in my area. Three of them are Catholic.


12 posted on 03/03/2012 4:35:44 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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Obama has a way of summoning Galt gremlins.


13 posted on 03/03/2012 4:35:46 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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14 posted on 03/03/2012 4:36:12 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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The Catholics talk the talk. Will they walk the walk?


15 posted on 03/03/2012 4:39:34 PM PST by Lexington Green (''Those who bite the hand that feeds them will lick the boots that kick them.'' -- Eric Hoffer)
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Obama would be overjoyed if the Catholic Church shut down all of their health care facilities.

Obamacare was NEVER about health care.

It was about overwhelming the system.

Cloward-Piven Mission Accomplished.

16 posted on 03/03/2012 4:42:29 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopaths.)
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What would that mean to the U.S., and to Obama's health care reform mandate? Put simply, it would create a disaster for the delivery of health care in the country, and rapidly escalate the public costs of health care.

I believe that is precisely what Obama wants. He would then nationalize the hospitals for the good of the people.

Maybe even declare that Catholic and certain other subversive churches would no longer enjoy "loopholes" in the IRS tax code.

They would henceforth be subjected to certain restriction in the interest of fairness and to make sure they were doing their fair share with their immense wealth.

17 posted on 03/03/2012 4:43:38 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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There is an EXCELLENT response made by Bishop William Lori in response to the liberals who run America magazine....and who took the Bishops to task in an editorial for not accepting the *accommodation.* It has to do with the DETAILS of the HHS Mandate. I share the ending to his letter.

“Oh, and as Detective Colombo used to say: “Just one more thing.” It’s the comment in the editorial about when we bishops are at our best. Evidently, it’s when we speak generalities softly and go along to get along, even though for the first time in history the federal government is forcing church entities to provide for things that contradict church teaching. Maybe Moses wasn’t at his best when he confronted Pharaoh. Maybe the Good Shepherd was a bit off his game when he confronted the rulers of his day.

But those are just details.”

Most Reverend William E. Lori

Bishop of Bridgeport

Chairman, Ad Hoc Committee on Religious Liberty
________________________________________________

Here it is in its entirety:

http://www.splendoroftruth.com/curtjester/2012/03/but-those-are-just-details


18 posted on 03/03/2012 4:44:35 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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Oh goodie - another brave “line in the sand” that the right can back-step away from.


19 posted on 03/03/2012 4:48:00 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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21 posted on 03/03/2012 4:52:08 PM PST by narses
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There’s no “risk” whatsoever. It’s a calculated decision. The cost in dollars doesn’t matter, as long as they get what they want.

For leftists, all good MUST come from the government. They will pay lip-service to “religion” as long as it fulfills their leftists goals, but everyone in power know that it’s with a “wink and a nod.”

The “reverends” Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Emanuel Cleaver are “religious” in that they realize they can use religion to con their constituents into supporting them. As long as they spew the leftist dogma, everything’s hunky-dory. However let a clergy-man utter one conservative thought, and you’re right in the middle of a constitutional crisis, as well as threats of IRS investigations.

Communism will not suffer religion to exist. Marx realized that until they can purge religion from the public’s mind, it can be used as the “opiate of the masses,” as the above mentioned charlatans are so adept at doing.

But the one thing that all forms of totalitarian governments require is a rejection of private charities, since all good must come from the government.

Mark


26 posted on 03/03/2012 5:41:11 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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Actually, the closure of Catholic hospitals, offices and charities will/would dump all those people into government hands, whether that government is muslim or not. The extra money will be absorbed, and the extra people will create demand and lines, long lines and waits that will kill some of them off.

Clever ba$tards, aren’t they.


33 posted on 03/03/2012 6:05:30 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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Imagine the impact if these hospitals shut down, discounting the other 400-plus health centers and 1,500 specialized homes that the Catholic Church operates as part of its mission that would also disappear.

Obama don't care. His jack booted HHS thugs would march in seize the facilities and dragoon the employees into working for the government while blaming faith based organizations. A win-win for Obama and the Democrats.

We have to make the Donkey Party own this.

35 posted on 03/03/2012 6:14:38 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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