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1 posted on 02/23/2012 12:39:23 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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President Obama admitted today that he does not have a "silver bullet" solution for skyrocketing gas prices, but he proposed alternative energy sources such as "a plant-like substance, algae" as a way of cutting dependence on oil by 17 percent.

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30 posted on 02/23/2012 12:55:51 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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He does realize that while technically feasible the gunk to oil process will never produce cheap fuel. It works if you have no other choice to walk. But it will never bring down the price of a gallon of gas.
32 posted on 02/23/2012 1:00:05 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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And in Obama’s case, use S**T as a substitute for brains...

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35 posted on 02/23/2012 1:02:35 PM PST by flatfish
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President Obama admitted today that he does not have a "silver bullet" solution for skyrocketing gas prices.... I do....get your butt out of our White House!
37 posted on 02/23/2012 1:03:57 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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...and to think, for all those years, the EPA made us KILL the algae that grew in sewage lagoons...


38 posted on 02/23/2012 1:04:05 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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This colossal dumb ass must go!!


41 posted on 02/23/2012 1:05:41 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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Whose to say that what we call oil is not a form of algea? I read an interesting article once that was theorizing on this and it was actually pretty convincing. Seems that we keep finding that the known reserves are growing in size, even as we pump more out.....

I wish I could remember where I saw that article to bring it over, but alas, I am a senile old fool.


42 posted on 02/23/2012 1:06:03 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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Environmentalists aren’t going to have a problem removing algae on a very large scale, considering algae forms the basis of the aquatic food web, and who knows what else? The same people who have an issue with the windmills and birds, will be fine with this? I seriously doubt it.


43 posted on 02/23/2012 1:06:58 PM PST by Anima Mundi
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It’s Time for Slime! Go Green! See How America Looks While Walking!


45 posted on 02/23/2012 1:18:46 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Algae won’t do the trick. I even bought a couple website names when I thought it would be viable. The shear tonnage of mass you need to process makes it impractical for large scale production. There’s so much mass that you are better just burning it in a nearby powerplant. Not saying it doesn’t produce energy, just that it will never be a gasoline source.


48 posted on 02/23/2012 1:21:18 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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Obama "Use 'algae' as substitute for oil"

Well, what do you expect from a guy that uses sh!t for brains?

51 posted on 02/23/2012 1:24:49 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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He’s got enough hot air to power a small country.


52 posted on 02/23/2012 1:25:42 PM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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My money’s on Florida getting a biomass thing going from Everglades algae or something similar.”

I rest my case.

Oh, and........
AFRL can make gas out of flowers, grass, pretty much anything. I have seen their exhibit and spoken with representatives. The question is the ramp up for doing it.

I believe 0bama/Jarrett, through Salazar, will ban fracking. We are not to use our own oil or nat gas. Soon, those rights will be ceded to foreign companies and countries. Call it spreading the wealth.


53 posted on 02/23/2012 1:25:49 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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100% certain way to bring America back... resign your office you kenyan fagot.

LLS


56 posted on 02/23/2012 1:39:02 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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I doubt this guy ever lifted a test tube! He has a magical conception of science. “Beam me up, Scotty!” Wish it would happen to him.


57 posted on 02/23/2012 1:40:46 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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It reminds me of Michael Dukakis meeting with a group of midwest wheat/bean farmers when the prices were down, and asking them, "Why don't you raise KIWI?"

Mr. Obama has no real life experience to draws from in virtually any vein of life....and the bastard is leading us. We are in a world of hurt.

61 posted on 02/23/2012 1:56:00 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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I am far more optimistic about using algae as a substitute for Obama.


63 posted on 02/23/2012 2:10:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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66 posted on 02/23/2012 2:32:22 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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He better check with his wife first, she may be considering it for another food source for the masses.


68 posted on 02/23/2012 2:41:42 PM PST by RetSignman (I take responsibility for what I post not for what you understand.)
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I did some consulting for a well heeled investor looking at the science behind this entire algae thing.

I actually came up with something that penciled out:

Instead of buying $100M flue scrubbers for coal plants, just route the exhaust gas into algae ponds and then sequester the NOX and SOX into the algae.

Harvest the algae, render it, and you have fuel.

Here were the problems:

If a regular coal plant requires anywhere from 2 to 4 million gallons of fresh water per day, adding algae ponds would much more than double that figure.

God gave plant cells something called ‘cell walls’ that animal cells do not have. We could get at the oil in the plant cells if it weren’t for the very durable cellulose membrane that requires as much energy to overcome as the amount you’d get from the biofuel. We even looked at spinning the oil out of the cells using waste steam.

Last but not least - light. As long as you could not waste any energy keeping the ponds lit, you’d be in pretty good shape. On the equator, you could harvest a ‘pond track’ (a racetrack cataract full of water in which you grow algae) 3 times a month. In North Dakota, this figure drops to once every five weeks.

Frankly, if you could cheaply and cleanly overcome the cell wall, there are ways of dealing with the logistics, even the water (CEO of Nestle said, “We will run out of water far sooner than we will run out of fuel”). As long as we have an EPA, only God can produce biofuel at a profit.

We actually built a practical proof of concept in Oregon to test this out. It was fun, but at the end we looked at the billions - hundreds of billions - sunk into biofuels and concluded based on the science that the money invested had to be the result of fraud - plain and simple.

The science against algae biofuel is solid.


70 posted on 02/23/2012 2:55:12 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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