The Heavens Opened, and Behold, a White Horse

Daily Herald ^ | Randy Wright

[AnTiw1]

Sen. Orrin Hatch is speaking Mormon code again to conservatives in Southern Utah. Rolly reports that Hatch told a breakfast gathering in St. George on Saturday that “I would be letting down my Father in Heaven if I didn’t run again.” I understand. The Ayatollah Khomeini felt exactly the same way.

[AnTiw1]

This mix of church and state is found a lot in Utah. Perhaps there's something in the water. In 1993, Michael J.S. Thompson, running for Orem city council, told residents that their support for his opponents thwarted God's plans. In 2006 Eagle Mountain businessman John Jacob (running against Rep. Chris Cannon) told a group of journalists that the devil was trying to keep him out of office. Bennion Spencer, a Democrat running against Jason Chaffetz, said that Jesus would vote for him if he had the chance.

It's always risky to drag deity directly into politics. Perhaps a higher power has been at work in America's history, but individual claims of knowing the mind of God are always dubious. It's reasonable to assume, for instance, that Satan's interference with Jacob's campaign meant that God didn't want him in Washington.

All this ties indirectly to a supposed utterance by Mormon prophet Joseph Smith known as the "White Horse Prophecy." Legend holds that Smith predicted the Constitution would one day "hang by a thread" and would be rescued by Mormon elders. Ever since, various Mormon elders have been styling themselves as the men for the job. Hatch used the "hang by a thread" language in a meeting with the Herald editorial board some years back, and in fact, the phrase crops up regularly in Mormondom. Glenn Beck, for instance, sent out the code in an interview with Bill O'Reilly in 2008: "We are at the place where the Constitution hangs in the balance. I feel the Constitution is hanging in the balance right now, hanging by a thread unless the good Americans wake up."

Never mind that the Constitution has been hanging by a thread ever since the nation's birth. Ever hear of Andrew Jackson and that little problem of nullification? Every hear of the Civil War? Conservative politics is getting so radical these days -- including a generous dose of religion everywhere you turn -- that it ought to be asked whether one can be a good Mormon and a Republican.

[svcw]

I guess in his mind he wants to be there when Romney fulfills the white horse prophesy.

[max americana]

Better the white horse than the white unicorn that sh*ts hopeychangey nuggets..

[Gator113]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA

[Utah Binger]

Any of these(D)dudes have a white horse?

Ken Jennings, Marlin K. Jensen, B. H. Roberts, Rocky Anderson, Hugh Nibley, Wilford Woodruff, Hugh B. Brown, Culbert Olson, Jim Matheson, Simon Bamberger, Heber J. Grant, James E. Faust, Marion G. Romney, Oscar W. Mcconkie, Jr., Almon W. Babbitt, George Dern, Boyd Petersen, Martha Hughes Cannon, Eugene England, John F. Kinney, Charles W. Penrose, Oscar W. Mcconkie, Ted Wilson, Radene R. Hatfield, Henry D. Moyle, Deedee Corradini, David Magleby, Herbert B. Maw, Moses Thatcher, Orson F. Whitney, Larry Echohawk, Wayne Owens, Bennion Spencer, Frank Moss, Bill Orton, Scott Mccoy, Marriner Stoddard Eccles, K. Gunn Mckay, Anthony W. Ivins, William H. King, Henry H. Blood, Elbert D. Thomas, David S. King, Jenny Wilson, O. C. Tanner, Frank J. Cannon, Pete Ashdown, Jackie Biskupski, Harden Bennion, Scott Matheson, Jr., Scott M. Matheson, Kurt Bestor, Patrick Shea, Christine Johnson, Milton H. Welling, Wayne Holland, Clyde L. Miller, John Thomas Caine, Karen Shepherd, Ralph Elihu Becker, Jr., Walter K. Granger, Christopher Stout, Adam S. Bennion, James Moyle, Samuel Augustus Merritt, Gene Davis, Sam Granato, Milly Bernard, Calvin L. Rampton, Reva Beck Bosone, J. W. Robinson, William Henry Hooper, Ed Mayne, Orrice Abram Murdock, Jr., Peter Corroon, Abel John Evans, Joseph Lafayette Rawlins, David Litvack, M. Blaine Peterson, Brad King, Alice Louise Reynolds, Karen Morgan, Robert Hilder, Luz Robles, Ross I. Romero, Charles Clarence Neslen, Patricia W. Jones, Roger Rawson, Carol Spackman Moss, Karen Mayne, James Henry Mays, Mike Dmitrich, Phil Riesen, Jen Seelig, Alfred Cumming, Mark Wheatley, Ben Mcadams, Palmer Depaulis, Larry Wiley, Lynn Hemingway, Carl W. Duckworth, Fred J. Fife, Jean Westwood, Allan Howe, James E. Faulconer, Rebecca Chavez-Houck, Brent H. Goodfellow, E. James Bradley.

The Elite ones.

[Da Coyote]

I despise RINOmney.

Because he is a RINO...not because of his faith.

Let’s keep the religion out of it...unless we’re talkin’ about the Ayatollah Obamaloon.

[StPaulRevert]

I’m not so sure
Our team will go along with a President Romney but will fight zero

[svcw]

Romney is who he is because of mormonism not in spite of it.
If you do not understand mormonism, you will not understand Romney.

[ConfidentConservative]

Great Song, Love Johnny Cash!

[SZonian]

So...it’s ok to mention 0bama’s “faith” and “religion” and how they made him who he is, but it’s not ok to do the same with Romney?

[Timaeus]

Better the white horse than the white unicorn that sh*ts hopeychangey nuggets..

I, on the other hand, would vote for Obama before I would vote for Romney. Gingrich, yes. Santorum, yes. Romney, NEVER.

[AnTiw1]

" Let’s keep the religion out of it...unless we’re talkin’ about the Ayatollah Obamaloon. "

apparently the mormons themselves dont keep religion off the table

when it suits their purpose

and when it doesn't the bigot card appears and the victim flag flies

[af_vet_rr]

I despise RINOmney.

Because he is a RINO...not because of his faith.

Let’s keep the religion out of it...unless we’re talkin’ about the Ayatollah Obamaloon.

Have you ever questioned Obama's suitability because of his religious views or who he looked to for religious guidance?

It should concern you that Romney happens to think that the elected leader of his church is a prophet of God. What happens if Romney is elected and this false prophet of God calls him up and asks him to do something that we disagree with?

You think he's going to listen to us or a man he thinks is a prophet of God?

I would no sooner vote for a Mormon than I would a Scientologist or a Muslim.

[greyfoxx39]

Ping

[svcw]

I just had a “discussion” (another blog) with a mormon, who told me that there is no such thing as the “white horse prophesy”, it is something Christians cooked up to lie about lds.
Weird.

[Elsie]

...there is no such thing as the “white horse prophesy”, ...

CRAP!!

Now you Hateful, BIGOTTED 'christians' (spit) are going to spam THIS thread with all of the QUOTES we MORMONs have made over the years!!

--MormonDude(When do WE get a break?)

[svcw]

The most interesting part was that this person said Christians were trying to make lds look bad........wait I thought lds were Christians.

[redpoll]

The only good news about the direction of this thread is that it’s going to take the pressure off the Jews for a little while. And speaking as a Jew myself, a lot of what I hear about the Mormons reminds me directly of what I used to hear (and still here in some quarters) about the Jews - you know, clannish wierdos with strange religious practices, a not-so-secret rich elite, odd ways of doing things, a questionable association with Americans despite their own pleadings to the contrary. Instead of that little beenie cap, the magic underwear.

Not that I’m particularly enamored with Mittens. He reminds me of the Rockerfeller Republicans who used to roam my home state of Connecticut, and who went extinct following the Reagan years.

The man I really miss at moments like this is Barry Goldwater. I had the rare pleasure of actually talking with the man on several occasions when he visited American University, and I credit those conversations to leading me to places like this. Mittens, though... as my grandfather would say, he’s a putz.