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America on Verge of Economic Collapse Because of Obama's Cooked Reports
News Blaze ^ | 2/18/12 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 02/18/2012 11:56:59 PM PST by OneVike

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To: OneVike
Lowe's built a brand-new warehouse store in our town a few years ago. It closed after two years. There is now a big, empty warehouse sitting there. This is not an old, trashy warehouse. This is a bright, shiny, gleaming, freshly built and painted warehouse. And it is just sitting there, empty.
61 posted on 02/19/2012 7:45:31 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: LomanBill
*** I can render a postage stamp sized image on your screen — from a 10+MB file to demonstrate if you’d like ***

No thanks not necessary.

62 posted on 02/19/2012 7:45:48 AM PST by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: LomanBill; Carry_Okie; Kartographer
The fish seem pretty happy without a Sabbath.

I really don't wish to embarrass you, but had you gone to the link and read what is there, you'd not have left the comment that you left.

The purpose of the Shemita as explained at C_O's link is NOT to give the land a break, it's ultimately to teach by long tradition of planning and experience how to withstand siege and to provide the knowledge of the terrain from which to fight back.

As is the nature of short explanations, you'd be foolish to think that that is all there is to it. Go to the link and you will see why hydroponics does nothing to solve the problem that is addressed by either C_O or Kartographer.

64 posted on 02/19/2012 7:52:29 AM PST by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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To: LomanBill

Cunnuckitard? Liberaltardian?

Whilst I ponder the conceptual freight of your witty rejoinders, I suggest that you reflect upon the distinction between history and literature.


65 posted on 02/19/2012 7:53:36 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

I’m quite aware of the thesis presented in Shemita.

I still have the pre-release copy I reviewed for C_O.

I simply do not share his appreciation for the Mormon, and other, tribal collectivism implicit in the proposed “solution”.

Preferring instead a Reformation of American Ideals, where the purpose of governance is to secure the inalienable rights of the Individual, rather than subjugating them via tribal theocratic Shock and Awe.


66 posted on 02/19/2012 8:05:20 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: OneVike

Sorry, refining numbers depicted in graph are not accurate picture of total gasoline consumption. It is off a little, not a lot.


67 posted on 02/19/2012 8:10:03 AM PST by bricks4all@aol.com
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To: headsonpikes

>>Cunnuckitard? Liberaltardian?

That’s right. If the pike fits, wear it.

Now, regarding your unsubstantiated assertion that “Idealism is a totalitarian virtue only.”:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2848554/posts?page=45#45

Please tell us how the American Declaration of Independance is Idealistic and Totalitarian?


68 posted on 02/19/2012 8:10:13 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
Have you looked at Aquaponics?

Just did. Looks very interesting from a nitrogen cycle/water use perspective. I'd bet it would do really well with charcoal as a growing medium. Of course, without a Sabbath you're blowing off the tactical value of remote stocking, and the social value of integrating the poor.

69 posted on 02/19/2012 8:10:22 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There has not been a conservative American government for 90 years.)
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To: LomanBill
Preferring instead a Reformation of American Ideals, where the purpose of governance is to secure the inalienable rights of the Individual, rather than subjugating them via tribal theocratic Shock and Awe.

LOL, those would be pagan ideals sonny, originating in the poetry of Titus Lucretius Carus (a fave of the philosophes of The Enlightenment).

70 posted on 02/19/2012 8:15:52 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There has not been a conservative American government for 90 years.)
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To: Carry_Okie

>>I’d bet it would do really well with charcoal as a growing medium.

Yep.
http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/charcoal-as-a-media

>>and the social value of integrating the poor.

There’s no Sabbath required to integrate the poor.

I think Aquaponics would be a viable replacement for the fishing economy that I observed being lost in Baja back in the 90’s. In 1995 they’d been pretty much reduced to scrounging for starfish and the like for animal food.

Replace the community owned pongas with a community owned aquaponic garden. At least that would be a sustainable alternative to making midnight cash-crop runs for the local Federali sanctioned thugs.


71 posted on 02/19/2012 8:25:17 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Carry_Okie

>>LOL, those would be pagan ideals sonny,

As opposed to the theocratic tyranny concocted by the stewards of Isis, Ishtar, and the Oster Bunny... you old Fart?


72 posted on 02/19/2012 8:28:32 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
As opposed to the theocratic tyranny concocted by the stewards of Isis, Ishtar, and the Oster Bunny... you old Fart?

No, those would be the same people.

73 posted on 02/19/2012 8:37:16 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Yep.

Nice to have the FReedom to articulate that Truth without threat of temporal punishment from a state-established, tribally sanctioned, system of Royal dogmatism, isn’t it?


74 posted on 02/19/2012 8:50:33 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Kartographer

I clicked on your site and got a blank screen.


75 posted on 02/19/2012 8:57:05 AM PST by ConfidentConservative (If my people shall humble themselves and pray,I will hear from Heaven and heal their land.)
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To: bricks4all@aol.com
Check out this report, Total Retail Gasoline Deliveries by Refiners, as opposed to the one I posted in the article and you will see that my chart is actually quite accurate.

If you like raw numbers instead of graphs, than here are some that go back to Nov 2009 to compare on a Month by Month basis.

Date Gas Retail Deliveries by Refiners [907] - Total Gasoline Retail Deliveries [16444]
Notes  
Nov-2011 30,934 
Oct-2011 32,015 
Sep-2011 41,972.6 
Aug-2011 42,351.8 
Jul-2011 42,448.3 
Jun-2011 42,477.2 
May-2011 41,172.9 
Apr-2011 41,555 
Mar-2011 41,608.1 
Feb-2011 40,924.9 
Jan-2011 40,331 
Dec-2010 42,417.1 
Nov-2010 42,857 
Oct-2010 43,624.1 
Sep-2010 43,876 
Aug-2010 45,082.6 
Jul-2010 45,755.3 
Jun-2010 46,765.3 
May-2010 46,016.2 
Apr-2010 46,234.2 
Mar-2010 45,482.4 
Feb-2010 44,227.1 
Jan-2010 44,012.3 
Dec-2009 47,441.4 
Nov-2009 47,454.3 



I need to get ready for church now, so if you have any numbers besides just your words to rebut my assertion, I would be glad to check them out later this afternoon. It may be way later however, because I am still recovering from spinal surgery I had on my lower neck and back 10 days ago and I run out of energy real quick. I will probably be resting most of the afternoon.
76 posted on 02/19/2012 9:02:22 AM PST by OneVike ((Just a Christian waiting to go home) internet ID:: impeachobamanow)
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To: Mortrey

Same thing happening here in Gwinnett county. Strip malls totally empty. Half finished retail building just rusting away. Restaurants closing up like crazy.


77 posted on 02/19/2012 9:03:05 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: OneVike

Go to www.dailyjobcuts.com
They post all layoffs, closings & biz bankruptcies large & small. Just amazing.


78 posted on 02/19/2012 9:05:55 AM PST by vidbizz
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To: Carry_Okie

[Looks very interesting from a nitrogen cycle/water use perspective.]

And pretty simple to implement. You could easily remotely stock the requisite components, and then acquire the aquatics from a local source when needed.

Missionaries have already picked it up and are implementing it in various locals.

I think it’s a beautiful solution that our Creator has provided just in time.


79 posted on 02/19/2012 9:07:32 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: El Gato

I used to live in an area of East Cobb Georgia....very wealthy, very upbeat, and very conservative. Years ago after Newt resigned, I noticed a change in the demographics of the area. More and more tenants being moved in to occupy Section 8 housing of homes that had hit the 30 year old mark (mortgage paid, sold off to investors, etc.). Yet, the area still progressed and built more $500K-$1M homes....

Then the bubble burst. Section 8 tenants are more rampant. The high priced homes are still there, but not increasing in number.....Cobb county is taxing the hell out of anyone that lives there (haven’t reduced their budgets at all).

I drive by there today (I moved from there 7 years ago) and it’s like living in Fulton County inside the city limits of Atlanta.....Thanks Obama.


80 posted on 02/19/2012 9:08:01 AM PST by Gaffer
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