Posted on 02/18/2012 4:32:00 PM PST by sushiman
Edited on 02/18/2012 5:30:39 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
May 1881 US explorers approached Jeannette Island and Henrietta Island and claimed them for the United States. According to some US individuals, including the group State Department Watch, eight Arctic islands currently controlled by Russia, including Wrangel Island, are claimed by the United States. However, according to the United States Department of State no such claim exists. The USSR/USA Maritime Boundary Treaty, which has yet to be approved by the Russian Duma, does not address the status of these islands nor the maritime boundaries associated with them.
The Obama Administration is reportedly giving away Wrangell, Bennett, Jeannette and Henrietta islands in Alaska to Russia. The federal government drew the line to put these seven Alaskan islands on the Russian side
Former senatorial candidate Joe Miller broke this story at World Net Daily:
This has to be fake. I wouldn’t believe it unless he was going to PAY Russia to take them.
The islands are located on the Russian side of the maritine boundry, and have long been claimed and controled by Russia. The US only claimed them, but has never controled them. Ozero is just relinguishiing claims made in the 1880s, and would never be ceded by Russia.
Just another demand by his masters - and act of faith, if you will - to prove he really will give Russia all the US missile tech and get rid of US nukes.
Move along.
The Communist in Chief is giving Hawaii to his commie buds?
I can see this so-called president giving Alaska back to the Russians. This way Sarah Palin is ineligible to run don'tcha know.
You don't want to know.
All caught up on the Whitney Houston thing I bet.
Who the hell does this Kenyan bass turd think he is? He can’t do this!
OK... Now some FACTS.
The Soviets occupied these islands since 1926, with a small group of colonists.
A Small Soviet Airbase, and an Early Warning Radar Station existed on Wrangell, until the end of the 70’s.
Although various western claims have been made on the islands since 1849, the US State Department recognizes none of them.
These are Russian Islands, there is just no official treaty that says so. THIS IS NOT THE WRANGELL ISLAND of the Inside Straights, near Juneau.
Is it April 1st already??
Apparently this was decided by treaty in 1990 , ratified by the US Senate in 1991, and then signed by Bush # 1 . A transfer wasnt done then because Russia didnt ratify the treaty and they still havent but the Commie in the WH has decided it is time to enforce it.
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http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/6/16/153807.shtml
Giveaway of Islands to Russia Risks U.S. Security
Wes Vernon, NewsMax.com
Monday, June 16, 2003
WASHINGTON The State Department’s secretive gift to Russia of eight Alaskan islands is a threat to U.S. security. The islands could provide strategic military value to the U.S. in the event of hostilities involving North Korea or China and could provide cheap energy for the United States.
Whats more, unknown to Congress or the American public, negotiations for the giveaway began and ended while Russia was part of the old Soviet Union during the Cold War.
The U.S. spent billions to fight the Soviet empire around the globe, to say nothing of the lives that were sacrificed. The Soviets had gobbled up a third of the world, in keeping with the avowed communist aim of world domination. Yet the State Department, as secretly as possible, agreed to give the communist enemy territory that holds potential oil, gas and fishing rights, as well as a value to national security.
Efforts are under way to persuade the Congress of the United States to bestir itself over this matter, but when Jesse Helms, R-N.C., retired from the Senate early this year, efforts to reverse the giveaway lost a powerful lawmaker who was focused on the issue.
The matter remains in limbo. Ironically, this is because although the U.S. Senate years ago ratified the executive agreement in the form of a treaty, despite objections by Helms and others, it is the Russians who are refusing to ratify the pact. They insist that the land grab, which redounded to their benefit, was not lavish enough.
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Henry Kissinger started the ball rolling during the final hours of his tenure as secretary of state in the outgoing Ford administration in January 1977.
Thus began years of secret negotiations that took on a life of their own and continued under succeeding administrations. It was not until 1984 that this back-channel giveaway was discovered when it was quietly inserted into the Federal Register.
My only question is why now?
Nothing else pressing to do?
Where's the sarcasm tag? You can't be serious.
Look at the map my FRiend. These are not strategic.
They look more like they should belong to Russia—now when he starts to give away Alaska—then we should worry. My real concern is that he is seen as weak and that may motivate our enemies around the world to try something—a bit of adventurism of some sort-—North Korea—move on South Korea? China move on Taiwan or Vietnam? Iran in the Smaller states in the Gulf? Russia move on Georgia?
Negotiations are underway to return Alaska to Russia and Lousiana to France. :)
Just looked at a Funk&Wagnalls Hammond World atlas from 1975 (height of the cold war). There is NO indication that these islands were under dispute in the atlas. Normally there is an indication in atlas’s of dispute, but in this case nothing is indicated even though it was during the height of US-Soviet embitterment. I looked at all maps and all extraneous materials to see if it was included in one spot and not another, but there is nothing to indicate otherwise. in fact the boundary in that map is identical to the one included on this thread. I’m not saying there wasn’t a claim, but if there was it was a well kept whisper.
Lol, I invite all jingoists to look at the map. The islands mentioned are much closer to Russian territory than American.
As proudpapa correctly wrote, the islands are not militarily worth defending.
What potential we're losing!
Next thing you know Obama will give them Alaska..wouldn’t want to go to war for that either, and it is closer to Russia.
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