Posted on 02/18/2012 4:23:55 PM PST by Mariner
(Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum challenged President Barack Obama's Christian beliefs on Saturday, saying White House policies were motivated by a "different theology."
A devout Roman Catholic who has risen to the top of Republican polls in recent days, Santorum said the Obama administration had failed to prevent gas prices rising and was using "political science" in the debate about climate change.
Obama's agenda is "not about you. It's not about your quality of life. It's not about your jobs. It's about some phony ideal. Some phony theology. Oh, not a theology based on the Bible. A different theology," Santorum told supporters of the conservative Tea Party movement at a Columbus hotel.
When asked about the statement at a news conference later, Santorum said, "If the president says he's a Christian, he's a Christian."
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If the fiscal side is most important then people will vote for the business guy, not the history professor.
“This is not what I want to fight about in the fall of 2012.”
You got that right. Santorum has “landslide defeat”’written all over his face.
They're using the Rush playbook: Op Chaos
I voted for Hillary in the 2008 Indiana Dem Primary
Open Caucus. Worthless as a nominating tool.
Santorum and Paul will do well in Washington.
It will be raucous, at least.
Whence cometh this notion that economic has nothing to do with religion? Max Weber famously asserted that capitalism is based on the Protestant ethic, of work as an obligation on all.
It is fundamentally THE most important issue we face.
We are either a Nation under God-—(which means Just Laws (based on Judeo/Christian Ethics—the BIBLE) which is the Founding principles of Natural Rights from God and “We Hold these Truths to be self-evident .....all from Christian ideology and each person has dignity and worth—our basis of Common Law which is the foundation of our jurisprudence (Christian).
OR
we are godless-—form arbitrary laws not based on Objective Truths(Bible)—but on whoever is the most powerful and in control of forming what is Right and Wrong-—like Hitler, zero, Stalin or barney frank—who ever holds the microphone and can create a “NEW” standard of Right and Wrong-—not from the Bible.
Like: Sodomy is a “right” and “good”.
Homosexual marriage is a “right” even though it denies children their birth right.
Abortion is “good”...killing for the betterment of the Collective is ALWAY a right. Individual rights don’t exist without God.
Only the USA founded the most Just country with individual rights-—and it comes from God—only his standards of Right and Wrong. The Judeo-Christian Theology created Western Civilization and Rational Thought—the ideas of Right and Wrong that led to the end of pederasty as normal, slavery as normal and homosexuality as normal and human sacrifice as normal.
As we remove God—we are returning to paganism—occultism-—other belief systems which always has records of extreme abuse to the individual-—but GOOD for the Collective-—at least, whoever has totalitarian control over the collective, at the time—like Hitler, zero, Stalin or barney frank—whoever controls the useful idiots and the armies—they need immoral armies—the sodomite kind like the SA Brownshirts.
I want GOD’s standard of Right and Wrong-—NOT a zeros or barney franks sick perverted ideas being forced on my children’s minds to corrupt their logic and reason with denial of Natural Rights and the corrupt convoluted thinking of sodomy is good.
Removing God from the public square has always been illegal (until the 50s). Faith exists in everyone’s belief system-—I want the system which values human dignity and worth in every single human being.....Christianity and Judaism—not some wicca junk or mormonism that is irrational to the point of denial of science and reason and history.
Christianity perfected much of Western Civilization-—the removal of Christianity has led to massive deaths in the 20th century-—MASSIVE ugliness. No thanks-—we went the no God/Darwinism route and it is ugly.
Well you certainly want to talk about right now. What’s the difference? If it is a worthless issue in November why is it such an important issue now?
Sometimes I wonder about folks like yourself. I don’t care if you support Santorum. No problem, but if you are complaining because he wants to bring back Religion in the good ole USA than you should be thrilled as other conservatives are. Everyone on this site complains and complains that they take prayer out of schools, that you can’t even say God in graduation speeches, can’t have a prayer circle in school. taking down cross’ all over the place, taking Christmas out of Christmas and so much more. We have a future President who will put a stop to it and you are STILL complaining. What is your deal seriously???
Do you want to build a winning coalition? Have to have the social conservatives aboard. Unless the economy completely craters, Obama has a great advantage. Remember that until Reagan showed up, the Republican Party was the pro-choice party.
(And how long have you had this basic issue with multi-tasking? And some FREEPERS call pro-lifers "single-issue?")
Why is everyone here against Romney? Because he’s for the gays. Because he’s promoted abortionists. Because he’s a gun grabber. Because nobody can trust his religion.
Ignore those ‘vapid’ issues and he’d be #1
It’s our fault. We had a good time screwing around with the 2008 campaign voting for Hillary in the Primary and they are just doing the same thing. I didn’t bother with it but a lot of people did. Although it didn’t work, Rush wanted it to work badly.
I will argue that putting those issues at the forefront, every day, in an election will garner a majority vote.
Rick has talked at length about the economy, as well as national defense, etc., etc. He typically speaks about social issues only when asked. When asked he gives an honest answer.
Polls show that more than 50% of all Americans are pro-life. In my previous post I gave the example of the predominantly Democrat voters opposing same-sex marriage. Social issues aren’t Rick’s primary focus, but they can be a winning, not a losing, issue when mentioned.
One wonders about those who go into tantrums and post in all caps when social issues are mentioned. Perhaps it isn’t because they don’t think that the nation agrees with Rick, but because they themselves don’t agree with Rick.
It's not a worthless issue in November and I didn't contend it was. I believe it would be the defining issue of the 2012 campaign if Santorum is nominated.
Some think that's a good thing, others think it's a bad thing.
Well you certainly want to talk about right now. What’s the difference? If it is a worthless issue in November why is it such an important issue now? (GulfBreeze)
Bingo!
GulfBreeze wins the prize of the month for basic discernment!
Mariner doesn't want religion to be a point of conflict in November; apparently he doesn't mind if he joins in re: making it a point of conflict in February!
Ya gotta be careful about the "let's not attack the religious convictions of others" crowd? Why? Because in the name of "let's not attack the religious convictions of others," they go on the offensive and wind up attacking the religious convictions of others!
Can you say "Hyprocrite?"
Can you say "two-faced?"
Can you say "double-standard?"
“Some think that’s a good thing, others think it’s a bad thing.”
When in doubt, go with what you think G-d wants.
Romneycare and Abortion.
However, we have a candidate talking about whether the current POS...er POTUS...is a real Christian.
How long have you been here? Since November of last year. Morals aren’t important to you and you say Catholics won’t get elected? Wrong on both counts. Seems like JFK was a Catholic and he got a lot of Dem votes.
Morals show what a person is made of. Without them, they don’t have much ground to stand on.
Well, this proves an interesting stretch for Mariner.
I mean, based upon what he just told you Savagesusie...all he has to now prove is that Santorum is putting theology as a "forefront...issue" on a daily basis.
Yeah, that's right, Mariner...you're guilty as charged of creating a straw man, here.
(Maybe you should just go feed your horse some of that straw...if you don't have a horse, find a gopher...maybe they can use it for their nesting hole)
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