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1 posted on 02/08/2012 8:10:30 AM PST by Jay777
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To: Jay777

I cannot turn anywhere for “good” news anymore. Everything is just backwards, upside down, in your face, nastiness.


2 posted on 02/08/2012 8:13:31 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Jay777

Let them try this with Islam, oh wait, Obama said
he’d side with them if the winds blew in an ugly
direction. I guess that would be towards freedom?


3 posted on 02/08/2012 8:15:17 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Jay777

If the Church told folks to wear armbands that said “boobies” the ACLU would support them.


4 posted on 02/08/2012 8:17:12 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Jay777

There are no polite words for this situation, nor are there prudent words. The federal government is no longer a government of the people, by the people, or for the people. The current administration disgusts me, and the ACLU is at least as bad.


5 posted on 02/08/2012 8:18:37 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Jay777

the ACLU is run by folks who treat abortion as holy sacrament and have been at the vanguard of that and other progressive ideas since the inception and have carried a battle against the Catholic church..a VERY long time

is this a surprise?

occasionally the ACLU says something sensical...maybe once every two years or so


6 posted on 02/08/2012 8:20:06 AM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Jay777

Obama, the Libs and the ACLU in their quest for divisiveness has somehow managed to unite their opposition. This really proves to me how stupid “smart” people can be. Attention to religious causes had been pushed to the forefront religious freedom not just Catholics but everyones. My pro-union neighbor is a practicing Catholic. He said he values God over all else and will not vote against his church. He told me this weekend he will not vote for Obama. I guess Obama underestimated how hard we cling to our guns and religion, his loss (literally) and overestimated his wonderfulness.


7 posted on 02/08/2012 8:20:27 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: Jay777

Why would anyone expect the Anti-American Commie Lawyers Union to defend the Church from persecution in the first place?


9 posted on 02/08/2012 8:22:52 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers ("No. But I will.")
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To: Jay777

From the article snip: “Individuals who choose not to pay for employees’ contraceptives, the ACLU counters, are forcing their beliefs on their employees.”

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Just...WOW!


10 posted on 02/08/2012 8:25:26 AM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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To: NYer; Coleus; narses; Salvation; Pyro7480

Needs a ping-out!


13 posted on 02/08/2012 8:51:52 AM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: Jay777

I don’t know where this idea started, but the first that I remember, or am aware of, was with the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

At that time there were many people who believed, for religious reasons, that they should not associate with, rent to, etc., blacks, the sons of Ham. I won’t go into the theological details, for one reason I not knowledgeable about them.

The point is, wrong-headed at that theological position may have been, many people sincerely held them. Their first amendment rights were held secondary to the interests of the governments public policy preference.

Understand, I’m not defending their position, only the fact that their first amendment rights were violated. Not to mention property rights.

However, once the principle was established that sincerely held religious beliefs counted for nothing, it could easily be seen that something like this would eventually happen. Maybe not exactly what would happen, but that the camel would continue to ooze into the tent.

Was it worth it? In many ways, America is a far better country than it was in 1964. In other ways, not so much. You decide.


14 posted on 02/08/2012 9:02:02 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: Jay777

Isn’t the ACLU just a branch of CAIR?


16 posted on 02/08/2012 9:19:44 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: Jay777

The Anti-Christian Lawyers Union never had anything to do with civil liberties. It was always about totalitarianism. They are totalitarians and all they do is done to support totalitarianism.


17 posted on 02/08/2012 9:34:25 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Jay777

“Individuals who choose not to pay for employees’ contraceptives, the ACLU counters, are forcing their beliefs on their employees.”

This is a more valid statement:

Individuals who force employers to pay for employees’ contraceptives, are forcing their beliefs on their employers.

It’s more valid because in the first instance as stated, the employer is not preventing the employee from doing something on their own that the employer doesn’t want (for whatever reason) to do for them, and in the second instance the employer is forced to do something the employer would not otherwise do.


20 posted on 02/08/2012 9:59:21 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Jay777

can’t they be sued for false advertising, claiming to be “American” and “Civil”?


21 posted on 02/08/2012 10:28:04 AM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as “natural behavior)
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Let's find a mosque, Muslim school, etc that employees even one non-Moslem. Make it known to them they must provide contraception, Plan B, and sterilization to their employees, including the female ones. Let them flip out— Obama will then listen. Of course maybe Muslims only hire Muslims so that's why that's what the exception to the law is.

Could you imagine if the Catholic church said as of Jan 1 next year, only Catholics can work for us, go to our hospitals, and eat at our food kitchens? Because that's the only way to get an exemption to the law. Obama is a horrible person. Catholics try to help everyone and as of next year can only do so if they compromise their beliefs. I know a lot of people ask to be taken to a Catholic hospital if they feel they are near death, because even if they are not Catholic they know people that believe in Jesus Christ will be there and a Priest will always be around to pray with them regardless of their religion.

24 posted on 02/08/2012 12:24:03 PM PST by MacMattico
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25 posted on 02/08/2012 12:25:21 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: Jay777

This is just exactly the position we would expect communists to take.


27 posted on 02/08/2012 1:41:11 PM PST by mtg
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