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Qantas A380 Out Of Service After Cracks Found In Wings
Fox Business ^ | Feb-07-2012

Posted on 02/07/2012 7:37:50 PM PST by Gamecock

Edited on 02/07/2012 9:26:45 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Gamecock

Sorry but in something that humungous there ain’t no such thing as minor cracks. Minor cracks are found in potato chips, plaster walls, hand mirrors and junior plumbers not in something that takes me 7 miles into the clouds.


21 posted on 02/07/2012 8:45:47 PM PST by Cyman
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To: montanajoe
FYI.
22 posted on 02/07/2012 8:48:15 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Gamecock
Too big to fail fly
23 posted on 02/07/2012 8:49:28 PM PST by Josh Painter ("The only thing these 'investments' will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy." - Palin)
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To: Army Air Corps

I hope more PAX airframes are sold. The 747 is the best aircraft out there for passenger comfort IMHO.


24 posted on 02/07/2012 8:50:38 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: bossmechanic
Ya don’t have to be an engineer to know that the plane wasn’t designed to crack - anywhere - at any time. Forces are showing up of some magnitude and/or direction not anticipated. This would be understandable if the planes had undergone some unique maneuver or impacted some unusual object. But to crack under normal operations?... Not cool.

Here's my question. If brand-new wings, in an "uncracked" state, developed cracks, wouldn't it be reasonable to expect the "cracked" wings to develop new cracks on the old cracks? I mean, I'm only a dumb EE, but are cracked surfaces stronger than non-cracked surfaces?

If the answer to that question is anything other than an unequivocal "yes," than EADS' official position -- that the cracks represent absolutely nothing to be worried about -- is seen to be 100% poppycock.

Where have I gone wrong in my logic here?

25 posted on 02/07/2012 8:52:21 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: databoss
Neither is an "albatross", (that was mfg by Grumman.) :D

That said, I'll gladly fly in the Dreamliner; and, I will take meticulous pains to avoid flights on the A380.

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26 posted on 02/07/2012 8:54:04 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: G Larry

Send them to haiti for shelters.


27 posted on 02/07/2012 8:54:31 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: databoss

“Dreamliner and A380 ridiculous albatrosses and unecessary....”

Obviously you are not in the aviation industry. The 737 are coming up for replacement, the 757 and 767 are getting a bit long in the tooth, airports want quieter airplanes, airlines need more fuel effeciency and less maintenance costs and more airtime.

Also, the 787 is NOT the same size as the A380. The 787, while coming out at the same basic timeframe, is not meant to be a competitor to the 380 in size. It is not even a replacement to the 747.


28 posted on 02/07/2012 8:55:05 PM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: montanajoe

I agree. The last time I flew on one was with Cathay Pacific. Business Class was pretty comfy aboard that -400.


29 posted on 02/07/2012 8:55:37 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: CodeToad

The 737 has just enetered a new generation - 737MAX with firm orders from Norwegian Airlines, Southwest, AA, and Lion Air.


30 posted on 02/07/2012 8:58:31 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Gamecock

Sorry but in something that humungous there ain’t no such thing as minor cracks. Minor cracks are found in potato chips, plaster walls, hand mirrors and junior plumbers not in something that takes me 7 miles into the clouds.


31 posted on 02/07/2012 8:58:45 PM PST by Cyman
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To: Army Air Corps
Yeah business class is great on Cathay. I usually fly coach because I cant normally justify my clients paying the extra cost and the 747’s are just more comfortable in steerage especially if you can grab the good seats
32 posted on 02/07/2012 9:03:26 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: Army Air Corps

I know. It is actually an exciting time to be in aviation, not as a passenger with the TSA and all, but from pilots to engineers there is all kinds of amazing work being done. There hasn’t been this much activity in decades.


33 posted on 02/07/2012 9:08:12 PM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: Gamecock

I remember the cracks on the then new jet, the Comet...except they developed around the square windows and resulted in the wings falling off in flight. Major engineering oops.


34 posted on 02/07/2012 9:10:25 PM PST by JPG (Matters at which the foolish laugh and at whose consequences the prudent weep.)
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To: Cyman

“Sorry but in something that humungous there ain’t no such thing as minor cracks”

Well, guess what? You’ve flown on all kinds of planes with cracks all over the place. There are a number of places where cracks can form without any structural integrity issues at all. To keep all cracks under control the plane would need to be built like a sky scraper.


35 posted on 02/07/2012 9:10:38 PM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: Gamecock

...................The airline last month found “minor” cracks on another one of its A380s, but the spokeswoman said that the “type two” cracking that prompted the airworthiness directive hasn’t been found on Qantas aircraft........................

Huh?? Quantus has cracking, but “airworthiness directives” haven’t been found on Quantas aircraft??

So I guess that the “minor cracking” only needs duct tape, but keeping the aircraft out of service for a week means fiberglass tape and epoxy!


36 posted on 02/07/2012 9:11:42 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: CodeToad

I agree. Also, the 767 remains in production and there have been some nice refinements in that airframe as well. I missed an opportunity to see a 787; one of the flight test airframes stopped by my local airport nearly a year ago. I still kick myself for missing that.


37 posted on 02/07/2012 9:11:42 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: JPG

The wings didn’t fall off until after the airframe exploded (catastrophic decompression).


38 posted on 02/07/2012 9:14:19 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

“I missed an opportunity to see a 787”

It definately is an eye catcher! The cockpit is a pilot’s dream. It is actually roomy and confortable compared to performing aircraft yoga to get into most of them.


39 posted on 02/07/2012 9:15:01 PM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: bossmechanic

The article claims the A380 experienced severe turbulence. I am surprised an airline would not take as many measures as possible to keep that giant structure away from bumps.


40 posted on 02/07/2012 9:16:37 PM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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