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Is Now The Time To Move Away From Major U.S. Cities?
The American Dream ^ | 1-26-2012 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 01/26/2012 4:44:50 PM PST by blam

Is Now The Time To Move Away From Major U.S. Cities?

January 26, 2011

As the U.S. economy falls apart and as the world becomes increasingly unstable, more Americans than ever are becoming "preppers". It is estimated that there are at least two million preppers in the United States today, but nobody really knows. The truth is that it is hard to take a poll because a lot of preppers simply do not talk about their preparations.
Your neighbor could be storing up food in the garage or in an extra bedroom and you might never even know it. An increasing number of Americans are convinced that we are on the verge of some really bad things happening.
But will just storing up some extra food and supplies be enough? What is going to happen if we see widespread rioting in major U.S. cities like George Soros is predicting? What is going to happen if the economy totally falls to pieces and our city centers descend into anarchy like we saw in New Orleans during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina? In some major U.S. cities such as Detroit, looting is already rampant.
There are some sections of Detroit where entire blocks of houses are being slowly dismantled by thieves and stripped of anything valuable. Sadly, the economy is going to get a lot worse than it is at the moment. So is now the time to move away from major U.S. cities? Should preppers be seeking safer locations for themselves and their families? Those are legitimate questions.

According to a recent Gallup poll, satisfaction with the government is now at an all-time low. Americans are rapidly losing faith in virtually every major institution in society.

Anger and frustration are rising to very dangerous levels, and we are rapidly approaching a boiling point.

When people feel as though they have lost everything, they get desperate.

And desperate people do desperate things.

In many communities in the United States today, crime has become so terrifying that people are literally sleeping with their guns.

The following is a story from Rancho Cordova, California that one of my readers recently sent me....

When I first moved here, it was not a bad place, it was quiet and clean.

However, over the past three years this place has gone to the dumps there are thugs and unruly people everywhere.

I have prevented two car break-ins by scaring these thugs away.

While I was home on thanksgiving weekend, someone decided to break into my apartment.

They trashed my place stole all my items and even took my law enforcement (LE) vehicle to include my equipment.

I m sure they had been watching me for a while because they did not take items that contained my identification.

Thank god, I had my weapon with me.

In many areas of the country, law enforcement resources are being dramatically cut back due to budget problems at the same time that crime is rapidly rising.

Right now, the city of Detroit is teetering on the verge of bankruptcy. Officials there recently announced that due to budget constraints, all police stations will be closed to the public for 16 hours a day. From now on, they will only be open to the public from 8 AM to 4 PM.

But in Detroit the police are needed now more than ever. The following is what one British reporter found during his visit to Detroit....

Much of Detroit is horribly dangerous for its own residents, who in many cases only stay because they have nowhere else to go. Property crime is double the American average, violent crime triple. The isolated, peeling homes, the flooded roads, the clunky, rusted old cars and the neglected front yards amid trees and groin-high grassland make you think you are in rural Alabama, not in one of the greatest industrial cities that ever existed.

The population of Detroit is less than half of what it used to be. Over the past few decades people have left in droves, and large sections of the city are in an advanced state of decay.

Not too many people want to buy homes in Detroit now. At this point, the median price of a home in Detroit is just $6000.

The following video contains some video footage of the "ruins of Detroit" that is hard to believe.....

(Go to the site to see a video)

Detroit has become a very scary place. 100 bus drivers in Detroit recently refused to drive their routes out of fear of being attacked on the streets. The head of the bus drivers union, Henry Gaffney, said that the drivers were literally "scared for their lives"....

“Our drivers are scared, they’re scared for their lives. This has been an ongoing situation about security. I think yesterday kind of just topped it off, when one of my drivers was beat up by some teenagers down in the middle of Rosa Parks and it took the police almost 30 minutes to get there, in downtown Detroit,” said Gaffney.

But it is not just Detroit that is having these kinds of problems.

In Cleveland, over 50 percent of all children are living in poverty and abandoned houses are everywhere.

The city has already demolished about 1,000 homes, and there is a plan to demolish 20,000 more homes. The following comes from a recent CBS News report by Scott Pelley....

Perfectly good homes, worth 75, 100 thousand dollars or more a couple of years ago, are being ripped to splinters in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio. Here, the great recession left one fifth of all houses vacant. The owners walked away because they couldn't or wouldn't keep paying on a mortgage debt that can be twice the value of the home. Cleveland waited four years for home values to recover and now they've decided to face facts and bury the dead.

Down in St. Louis they have a different problem. In some of the worst areas of the city, roving packs of wild dogs are a serious threat to children that are walking to school. A recent report by the local CBS affiliate in St. Louis described the situation this way....

...Lewis Reed is sounding the alarm. "I’ve witnessed packs of dogs, 10 and 15 dogs running together, and I’ve seen all these dogs I’m talking about they don’t have collars, they don’t have tags, these are truly wild dogs," he said.

Reed says stray dogs are terrorizing the north side. "It’s obscene that parents have to walk their kids to school, in some parts of the city, with a golf club to fend off wild dogs."

How would you feel if you had to fend off wild packs of dogs as you walked your child to school?

These kinds of conditions can be found out on the west coast as well.

For example, there is an area of San Francisco that is known as "Hunter's Point" that is an absolute nightmare. In Hunter's Point, over half of the population lives in poverty and more than half of all children live in a home where there is no father present. The following is what one reporter discovered on a visit to Hunter's Point....

Abernathy and I cut through the complex, tromping over an expanse of dirt and concrete toward the northeast end of the development, where a row of apartments looked down from a grassy hill. We paused next to a vacant, boarded-over unit to take in the scene: A stream of ****, piss, tampons, and toilet paper spewed from a dark hole in the sidewalk, poured down the hill, and formed a sort of **** lagoon next to the street. Weeds, about six inches tall, were growing in the little lagoon.

Raw ****, obviously, is not cool. Beyond the fact that it smells and looks nasty, fecal matter provides a haven for dangerous bacteria, most notably E. coli, a virulent pathogen that can sicken and even kill humans, especially infants.

When conditions like this reign, it is a prime breeding ground for crime.

In major U.S. cities all over the United States, drug dealing, gang activity and prostitution are on the rise. The following comes from a recent article in the New York Times....

In November, a terrified 13-year-old girl pounded on an apartment door in Brooklyn. When a surprised woman answered, the girl pleaded for a phone. She called her mother, and then dialed 911.

The girl, whom I’ll call Baby Face because of her looks, frantically told police that a violent pimp was selling her for sex. He had taken her to the building and ordered her to go to an apartment where a customer was waiting, she said, and now he was waiting downstairs to make sure she did not escape. She had followed the pimp’s directions and gone upstairs, but then had pounded randomly on this door in hopes of getting help.

In some major U.S. cities, the gangs have virtually taken over. In an article entitled "City of Ruins", Chris Hedges described what life is like today in Camden, New Jersey....

There are perhaps a hundred open-air drug markets, most run by gangs like the Bloods, the Latin Kings, Los Nietos and MS-13. Knots of young men in black leather jackets and baggy sweatshirts sell weed and crack to clients, many of whom drive in from the suburbs. The drug trade is one of the city's few thriving businesses. A weapon, police say, is never more than a few feet away, usually stashed behind a trash can, in the grass or on a porch.

As I wrote about the other day, the FBI says that there are now 1.4 million gang members inside this country. That number has increased by 40 percent since 2009.

Organized criminal behavior by groups of young people is on the rise all over the nation. Just check out this video which shows a flash mob robbery happening in Montgomery County, Maryland.

Sadly, this is just the beginning.

This country is still enjoying a tremendous amount of prosperity. We still have a very high standard of living compared to most of the rest of the world.

So how nightmarish are things going to get when the economy gets really bad?

The most frightening thing is when these criminals start invading private homes.

The following home invasion story from Sacramento, California was sent to me by one of my readers a while back....

Somebody got into my sister's house last night while she was out. My mom was upstairs, but didn't hear anything. Whoever it was, they ate some chips and sorted through a stack of maternity clothes my sister had ready for selling on ebay. He left a dirty pair of boxer shorts and a bottom dentures on the dining room table. Fortunately, he was gone when she got home. I'm amazed, but the police actually came out and collected fingerprints and his boxers and false teeth. Probably a homeless guy. He may have switched his dirty boxers for a clean pair of maternity jeans, so the police just have to look for a guy wearing women's maternity pants with no lower teeth.

Because of stuff like this, an increasing number of Americans have decided that it is better to be armed.

The truth is that you never know when you will get jumped.

For example, in Pennsylvania the other day one 65-year-old man was suddenly knocked off his bicycle by three teen thugs.

The 65-year-old man responded by pulling out his gun and shooting two of them. One of the teens was killed.

Down along the border with Mexico, many ranchers have discovered that a gun battle could potentially erupt on any night. The federal government has refused to protect the border, and so millions of illegals just keep streaming on in. The following was recently posted on standwitharizona.com....

Barbed wire fencing doesn’t keep illegal aliens off the property anymore. One Starr County, TX rancher doesn’t have time to worry about the illegals these days. He now worries about the smugglers protecting their loads.

“I don’t think they would have any conscience of taking someone’s life,” the rancher says.

He saw that will to kill firsthand. A smuggler shot at him on his own land.

“One round was fired at me, and it missed my head by about two feet,” says the rancher.

He says there’s only way to react.

“Fire all the rounds you have, reload, and do it again,” says the rancher.

The more stories like this you read, the easier it is to understand why more than 10 million guns were sold in the United States during 2011.

The truth is that you never know when you may need to defend yourself.

This past New Year's Eve, a single mother named Sarah McKinley was home alone with her three-month old son when she discovered that two armed men were trying to invade her home. If she had not had a gun, there is no telling what might have happened. The following is from a news story about that incident....

An Oklahoma woman was recently home with her 3 month old son when two men tried to break in. Armed with a shot gun and a pistol she called 9-1-1.

Operator: "Are your doors locked?"

Caller: "Yes, I've got two guns in my hand. Is it ok to shoot him if he comes in this door?"

Operator: "I can't tell you what you can do but you do what you have to do to protect your baby."

The mother did shoot killing one of the intruders. Oklahoma police called the shooting justified.

What would you have done in that situation?

America is rapidly changing, and we all need to adapt to the new reality all around us.

The truth is that America is not the same place it used to be. In some U.S. cities, authorities are actually dumping dead bodies into mass graves.

Just check out what the Daily Mail says has been going on in Chicago....

It's a practice more closely associated with third world countries, but in bleak times in a Chicago-area suburb, 30 people were buried in a mass grave on Wednesday.

The pauper's burial section at Homewood Memorial Gardens was established for those who could not afford to pay for a burial plot.

And it is a problem that's sweeping America as tough economic times have led to an increase in the number of indigent burials the morgue must perform.

All over the country, major U.S. cities are flat broke and are rapidly decaying. They are filled with impoverished people that are rapidly becoming angrier and more frustrated.

There simply are not enough jobs for everyone. Millions of ordinary Americans spend their days agonizing over the fact that they cannot provide even a basic living for themselves and their families.

And as the economy gets even worse, the economic despair in this country is going to grow to unprecedented levels.

So is now the time to move away from major U.S. cities?

In the end, each of us is going to have to answer that question for ourselves.

Jobs are scarce, so if you have a good job right now it may not be wise to give it up. It can be incredibly challenging to move to a new area when you don't have a job.

One solution may be to move farther away from your current job so that you are in a more rural setting. But the rising cost of gasoline can make that a very expensive proposition.

Some families are purchasing second homes that they can "bug out" to in the event of a major disaster or emergency. But if your financial resources are limited that may not be an option for you.

In the final analysis, you have just got to do the best you can with what you have.

But if you are able to move, it is better to do it while times are relatively stable (like now) than when times are very unstable.

So what do all of you think?

Do you think that now is the time to move away from major U.S. cities?


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To: Silentgypsy

When you drink vodka over ice, it can give you kidney failure.
When you drink rum over ice, it can give you liver failure.
When you drink whisky over ice, it can give you heart problems.
When you drink gin over ice, it can give brain problems.

Who knew ice is poisonus. Warn all your friends.


201 posted on 01/27/2012 7:20:01 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Silentgypsy; patton; netmilsmom

For 10 years minus some months I’ve only had hot water heating on my woodstove (not a cookstove, just a heating stove) for hot water. In the summer I heat it on my electric stove. Hub has promised for a long time to rig something up. He’s getting close, going to wrap copper pipe around the stove pipe and store the hot water in an old hot water heater on the second floor, and it will run gravity to the bathroom and hopefully kitchen.

He’s researched some other do it yourself hot water heaters, my favorite besides a solar one, is the method of getting an old hot water heater, welding it onto a large truck tire rim (or maybe car tire would work), making a small fire box, and heating it that way. Of course pipes coming and going have to be engineered into it. He found a good website he’s going to follow directions from. That will be for summer hot water. We have so many trees we don’t have an area near the house with hours of sunlight.

He put an ad on Craigslist for non working hot water heater tanks, he got 5 I think. Umm, just realized Craigslist deleted the ad for some reason so we put it in the local paper. He got the tanks for free.


202 posted on 01/27/2012 8:27:04 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Travis McGee

The only promise is none of us “survive” - at least in the mortal frames. Life is a test!


203 posted on 01/27/2012 8:28:25 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: jpsb
A cheap way to go is a pressure cooker still (that is a link to a youtube video) I built mine off of another video that has apparently been removed.

Mine was built using a pressure cooker I picked up at a yard sale for 5 bucks and a 5 gallon plastic bucket (I used an old compound spackling bucket) I got some flexible copper tubing from the hardware store drilled a hole in the center of the lid (right where I'd removed the steam pressure outlet) then I used some fittings I got at the hardware store.

You coil the tubing in the 5 gallon bucket I used fittings to plumb the end of the tubing to exit the side of the bucket at the bottom and used an old fashion metal faucet on the outside of the bucket.

The other end of the tubing is connected to the pressure cooker. the idea of a distiller is to convert the liquids to gas and force it out the tube which goes through the sump (sump = the 5 gallon bucket filled with ice or very cold water) traveling through the sump via the copper tubing the gas is cooled back into liquid and is thus distilled.

The Distiller in that above video is a bit more elaborate but I made mine for about thirty bucks (flexible copper tubing is expensive and the fitting aren't cheap either)

I made mine because our local water system is virtually on the verge of imploding. They need something like 10 million bucks just to fix the system and our town doesn't have the cash so I figure I better have something setup so we can have drinking water. I've made 4 so far for myself and several for friends and family.

204 posted on 01/27/2012 9:05:05 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: hinckley buzzard

For those of you who want to survive after all stock ups have run out, Google “ global buckets” then go and search for it on you tube.
I start this tomorrow.


205 posted on 01/27/2012 9:39:25 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

For those of you who want to survive after all stock ups have run out, Google “ global buckets” then go and search for it on you tube.
I start this tomorrow.


206 posted on 01/27/2012 9:39:37 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Thanks, I will keep my eye out for an old pressure cooker. I have 2 but they both work so I kinda want to keep them since pressure cookers (stainless steel) are getting real expensive. I have a water well so I am not too worry about water, but whiskey in a SHTF situation would be a good thing to be able to produce.


207 posted on 01/27/2012 9:50:57 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Donnafrflorida

looks good, I might try a few. I have a good size garden and a small green house but I’m always interested in new ideas and I hate weeds and weeding. thanks for the tip.


208 posted on 01/27/2012 10:04:17 PM PST by jpsb
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To: metmom

Yes. Move to Ave Maria.
http://www.avemarialiving.com


209 posted on 01/27/2012 11:29:44 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: metmom

Yes. Move to Ave Maria.
http://www.avemarialiving.wordpress.com


210 posted on 01/27/2012 11:32:20 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Mad Dawgg

Double coil he uses with pump needlessly complex - plumb the worm out the side of the cooling barrell.

Needs a thumper between the prssure cooker and the worm - it removes the solids (when not using the wastefull method he is - cooking the mash in a carboy). A thumper is a NON-GLASS container with two holes in the top - steam goes in one hole, solids drop to the bottom, pressure forces steam out the other hole and on toward the worm.

the 1st 5th of product will be poison - methynol - use it for fuel only.


211 posted on 01/28/2012 5:05:29 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: little jeremiah

The ole sears woodstoves had water heaters built into them.


212 posted on 01/28/2012 5:07:22 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Methanol boils at 149 F
ethanol at 172 F
Water at 212 F

So the product from 149 to 172 is pure poison
after that, is is a mix - so is the store-bought stuff

don’t let the cooker reach 212 F, or it will blow up


213 posted on 01/28/2012 5:20:37 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: cripplecreek
isolated from everywhere else.

Except for starving Canucks storming the beaches.

Them, and the ghosts of Ernest McSorley et. al.

214 posted on 01/28/2012 5:51:29 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: cripplecreek
Looks like a nice little town...similar to the one I live about four miles out from. Since moving to the country I could not imagine living in even a small town any more. But there are times you just need to go into town...
215 posted on 01/28/2012 6:45:06 AM PST by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: dangerdoc

We made the move around eight years ago. Milking goats are good...we have had them...but we prefer the family milk cow. Never could get used to the goat milk. The extra benefit is that we get to fill the freezer when the calf grows up...and they grow pretty fast when you let them nurse from their own mom...and their is plenty of milk left for my family. We also raise chickens...for both eggs and meat...as well as sheep, have done rabbits, ducks, turkeys and plan on doing a pig or two this summer. Yes, there are some great ways to convert the land into protein. It is very satisfying to open up one of the freezers and to be able to then make the decision...”what will I thaw out?”...beef, lamb, chicken, turkey, duck, or rabbit...and to know that it all came off of my land.


216 posted on 01/28/2012 7:09:32 AM PST by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: metmom
The ping makes sense to me. As homeschoolers we have removed our children from public school partially because of the way culture has turned away from God and His standards. The same is true of how culture in the cities have done the same thing...which is no surprise since the vast majority of children are “educated” in the public school. So it makes sense that what we saw in the schools we are now seeing in the cities...where it is more concentrated then in rural areas...but it is still creeping in to the rural areas. Without a return to God we will see the collapse of our culture.
217 posted on 01/28/2012 7:19:21 AM PST by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: patton

Yeah it is but getting up every 2 hours all night long to stick a single chunk of wood in it isn’t very practical.
[very long, narrow firebox]

My dad used to drive by on the way up to the cabin every morning and I’d be out in the yard splitting the day’s worth of firewood into quarters for that infernal stove....:))

I tried to use it for heating the kitchen for 1 winter and it was a major PITA...put in a regular wood stove, after that.

OTOH, you can’t imagine how good it baked bread and pies.

Must be something about the cast iron.


218 posted on 01/28/2012 7:40:49 AM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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To: blam
I live almost in the heart of Houston, I don't feel unsafe. We used to live in the country, out side of a small town. I did not feel safe there. Hi-way bums would come to the door, people with car trouble (I guess) asking to use the phone. Prison farms in the area with occasional escapes. I called the Sheriff about a guy wandering around our property and it took over an hour for them to get there.

Yeah, people in the city get broken into I see it on the news but when you get the details, they either left the door unlocked, or didn't set the burglar alarm, or didn't even have an alarm or a dog to warn them. At the very least get a BEWARE OF DOG sign! The burglars will go to the next house and leave you alone, unless you are way out in the country and there is no next house. Here I have, guns, dogs, good neighbors a burglar alarm and a panic alarm that will have HPD at my front door in 5 minutes. I know because I pushed the panic alarm by accident, less than 5 minutes there were 2 burly cops asking me what was wrong.

219 posted on 01/28/2012 7:48:12 AM PST by Ditter
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To: patton

Lead poisoning killed my ‘shiner grandaddy back in the 30s.

He *almost* made it across Rattle Run and into PA but the bullet was quicker than him.

Right in the back, all because there were no jobs and he had a wife and 3 kids to feed, one of whom had a heart defect.

She dropped dead in the farm lane a few years later.

[ain’t sayin’ nuthin’ about the ‘genetics’ of the family]

:)


220 posted on 01/28/2012 7:49:10 AM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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