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BREAKING on Fast and Furious: Arizona Moves to Prosecute Those the Feds Won’t
biggovernment.com ^ | 22 January, 2012 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 01/23/2012 6:44:45 AM PST by marktwain

Nationally, Fast and Furious has entered the vernacular. As a result, Americans of all walks of life now know that the ATF and DOJ oversaw the sale of approximately 2,500 guns to straw purchasers who, in turn, passed them to criminals in Mexico and elsewhere. Moreover, Americans know that the plan from the get-go was to have these guns carried across an international border and passed to criminals whom the ATF then planned to arrest (but they never got around to arresting them because they hadn’t bothered tracing the guns from the point of sale).

Therefore, Americans also know that of the 2,500 guns originally sold, approximately 1,300 are still on the streets and unaccounted for. At least two of these guns were found at Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s murder scene in December 2010, and Americans increasingly know that while Terry may have been the first American victim, odds are he won’t be the last with such a large number of weapons on the loose.

Lastly, Americans know that President Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder have both denied complicity in Fast and Furious, particularly in the gun-running aspects of it. Throughout the course of denying complicity, Holder has changed his story more than once, Obama has demonstrated confusion over when he first learned about Fast and Furious, and former U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke (Arizona) was allowed to retire without charges although he was demonstrably involved in covering up the connection between Fast and Furious and Agent Terry’s death.

Perhaps through all this, the one thing the American people have witnessed to a sickening degree is the stark failure to prosecute those involved in Fast and Furious to the full extent of the law. Holder has been handled with kid gloves, Burke is now living a private life, and Obama is not being asked to clear up the many discrepancies in his timeline.

Enter Arizona.

Where the same state that brought you S.B. 1070—the immigration law aimed at allowing the state to do the job the feds won’t do—is set to open their own investigation into Fast and Furious and bring state charges against those the feds have heretofore refused to charge. Andy Tobin, Arizona’s Speaker of the House, will announce tomorrow (Monday, January 23rd) the scope of the investigation, and will call for state investigators to have their findings back to him no later than March 30.

The bottom line: Arizona is about to the do the job the feds won’t do – again.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: atf; az; banglist; corruption; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; fraud; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; obama
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To: marktwain
...Americans know that the plan from the get-go was to have these guns carried across an international border and passed to criminals whom the ATF then planned to arrest (but they never got around to arresting them because they hadn’t bothered tracing the guns from the point of sale).

That is completely false. They had no plan to ever arrest anyone. Field agents who wanted to interdict some of these guns before they got over the border were adamantly told to stand down. Here is the testimony of four ATF agents to that fact.

The Department of Justice ’ s Operation Fast and Furious: Accounts of ATF Agents

These agents all testify that they were ordered to let them go.

21 posted on 01/23/2012 11:56:09 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: tcrlaf
NBC ran the total number of US Soldiers killed in the wars NIGHTLY on the Evening News, for two years, until election night 2008.

That STOPPED on election night, and they have only mentioned it THREE TIMES in the last three years!!

They copied what the Walter Cronkite and the Dan Rather types did on CBS News during the late 1960's and early 1970's.

Nixon had Vietnam all but won. The MSM and a Democrat Congress turned it into a defeat.

Yet Nixon is the one that has been vilified by the MSM.

22 posted on 01/23/2012 12:20:44 PM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: Enterprise

bump


23 posted on 01/23/2012 12:47:51 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

24 posted on 01/23/2012 12:55:06 PM PST by GraceG
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To: marktwain

the obama admin lets guns go to the drug cartels, which in turn kill hundreds of people and kills border agents, which in turn the obama admin gets caught but now the DOJ, the top law enforcement which was behind this now pleads the 5th and the MSM say they’;re not bias and shocked that people on the right are fed up of them

WHAT A CROCK ALL OF THIS IS.


25 posted on 01/23/2012 1:13:33 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: SusaninOhio

you got that right.

Most people I come across have no clue about this and reply”well I’ve not heard about this on the news are you sure?”

The MSM have a lot to answer for and for the DOJ the top or supposed top law enforcement to to do this and then take the 5th shows how corrupted this admin is but of course the MSM will ignore this as they always do when it makes the left look bad and the public never gets to know about it and the left keep their agenda going slowly but surely.


26 posted on 01/23/2012 1:17:04 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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27 posted on 01/23/2012 1:20:19 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: TYVets

most of the left have no clue what is going on , the black community are totally clueless, the liberals know a little and Dems in general mainly union hacks get their news from their union flyers and posters in the work place .

The left in general are just thick and not informed due to them getting news from media matters, huff post, NBC, MSNBC, union hacks, KOS, DU, NY Times etc.

Then they all stay in their circles and tell each other how smart they are.
It’s when they get out of the circle they find it shocking that people have a different view to them.


28 posted on 01/23/2012 1:21:49 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: marktwain

Now countries hate the USA more than under George W., and there are states in our OWN COUNTRY that are gradually working their way there:

Arizona, Texas, Alabama...others?

Picture a 2nd Obama term —how many more, then...?


29 posted on 01/23/2012 3:23:03 PM PST by gaijin
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To: manc
It’s when they get out of the circle they find it shocking that people have a different view to them.

Very true

The same thing can me said of me, when I get out of the information circle.

Many are really ill informed and many others just do not care.

I believe that is why we have the President we have now.

30 posted on 01/23/2012 3:34:18 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: marktwain

Prayers for all those in Arizona. If only other states would vocally back them on this necessity. If Congress can’t bring charges, then the State of Arizona has a definite right to do so - especially considering it is their citizens being directly targeted by the gangs outfitted by the Federal Gov’t.


31 posted on 01/23/2012 3:48:31 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: Irish Eyes

my kids were invited to a kids party and so I took them.

We arrived and saw the small boy alone crying outside, my kids went and played with him and we went in side the house.

There were 3 couples, very elitist types.

All they could do was to tell each other how smart they all were and she asked about my accent to which I told her where it is from.
She refused to believe me and actually questioned me

I turned round and said well the last time I was there my accent is the same as everyone else.

Another woman there was asking about England to which I replied Europe is very easy to travel as countries are very close etc.
She tried to give the impression that she had been to France etc.

I heard all of this and asked how was Paris.
“Great but she did not see much as she wanted to .” She said.

I then found out she had only stayed in the airport and never left it.

All of these people are fakes who all try to eat, drink, act , live all the same and then tell each other how smart they are, how they are self educated,etc.

They truly are pathetic.

I guarantee that right now over on their sites they are telling each other how smart they are, and how others are stupid.


32 posted on 01/23/2012 3:51:12 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: manc

Another woman there was asking about England to which I replied Europe is very easy to travel as countries are very close etc.
She tried to give the impression that she had been to France etc.

I heard all of this and asked how was Paris.
“Great but she did not see much as she wanted to .” She said.

I then found out she had only stayed in the airport and never left it.

All of these people are fakes who all try to eat, drink, act , live all the same and then tell each other how smart they are, how they are self educated,etc.
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So true I have seen the very same thing myself . On one hand it is pretty funny to listen to them. Then I remember these people vote.


33 posted on 01/23/2012 3:59:20 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes
I didn't play their game and say the usual stuff of "o my did you" or "wow that is great you really did a good job" You know those usual lines some say to suck up. Well my wife got a call later in the week saying that I had said things to this woman which were insulting etc. My wife asked what did I say and the woman refused to say what I was supposed to have said. Seems this woman told the host, the kids mother who invited us a pack of lies about me. it goes to show how the loons on the left act when one does not make them feel as important as they think they are.
34 posted on 01/23/2012 4:04:45 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: redgolum
I don’t know if they can.

Sovereign immunity.


It think they can. When you violate criminal law, you no longer can claim immunity because you have stepped out of your Federal immunity protection. No Federal funds can be expended to protect your ass so Holder's henchmen can not defend the violators. Matter of fact, a number of DOJ lawyers also need to be indicted. There were AUSAs and ATF violations, possibly ICE and FBI, in Arizona so Arizona should have subject matter and personal jurisdiction over these violations.

35 posted on 01/24/2012 6:53:10 AM PST by iontheball
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