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Va. Appeals Court Rules Against Perry and Gingrich’s Attempt to Get on Ballot
ABC News ^ | Jan 17, 2012 5:16pm | Ariane de Vogue

Posted on 01/17/2012 3:31:51 PM PST by Quicksilver

A federal appeals court in Virginia today denied an emergency request by Republican presidential hopefuls Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich to be placed on the ballot for the Virginia primary.

After failing to get the required 10,000 signatures necessary to be placed on the ballot, the two candidates argued that Virginia’s strict ballot law was unconstitutional.

A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit agreed with a lower court and ruled today that the candidates had waited too long to file their suit.

The court ruled unanimously that Perry and the other candidates “had every opportunity to challenge the various Virginia ballot requirements at a time when the challenge would not have created the disruption that this last-minute lawsuit has.”

The court said that if it had ruled in favor of Perry, then it would encourage other candidates for president “who knew the requirements and failed to satisfy them to seek at a tardy and belated hour to change the rules of the game.”

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; lawsuit; newtgingrich; perry2012; rickperry; ricksantorum; ruling; va2012; vagop; vaprimary; virginia
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Being that the Texas GOP Primary in not until sometime in April, a long time after Perry drops out, I have plenty of time to decide however, it will most likely be Gingrich or Santorum.


61 posted on 01/18/2012 3:20:53 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
Do you want the Federal Courts to overturn election laws in Texas, S Carolina and Virginia.

The fact only Romney and Paul will appear on the ballot makes me want to puke... BUT...

The candidates were at fault here, for not having had the people on the scene in VA to obtain the required number of signatures to get them onto the ballot.

They fell short because they didn't properly plan... and now we in VA are stuck with the two worst in show.

62 posted on 01/18/2012 5:31:44 AM PST by ScottinVA (Liberal logic: 0bamacare mandate is acceptable... but voter IDs are unconstitutional.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Bolling and Mullins screwed this up because they knew Romney has the sort of moral center, or lack there of, that would allow him to just ignore it.

They've now proved that the man has an exceedingly high tolerance for political corruption and misbehavior.

What more do we need to know.

63 posted on 01/18/2012 5:54:56 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Ransomed

“why are they held in states that rarely go GOP in the general election,”

Welcome to the United Soviet States of America..where the Pravda State Media “vet” the candidates to the pleasure and needs of the RinoCrat UniParty.

This “election” will be a non-election...featuring the state approved “candidates”-whose only distinction is whether they are black or white.

your eyes are opening , grasshopper...


64 posted on 01/18/2012 5:58:08 AM PST by mo
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To: trumandogz
It's about the 14th amendment, not the 10th.

At the same time this is all of a piece with running for a federal office, not the local dogcatcher.

65 posted on 01/18/2012 5:58:18 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: dools0007world

The Court followed the Law but ignored the Constitution.


66 posted on 01/18/2012 6:25:28 AM PST by P-Marlowe (NEWT!!! Because everyone else is just average.)
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To: trumandogz

LOL! It is hard to believe these candidates teams didn’t meet the requirements. Of course, it is the voters who are hurt most by the ruling.

Can’t voters just write in their candidate of choice?


67 posted on 01/18/2012 8:59:48 AM PST by TheDon (The Democrat Party, the party of the KKK (tm))
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To: muawiyah

I’m not sure if I agree with the political corruption and misbehavior part of it, but I do think the manly thing to do in Romney’s case would be to make it known that he did not approve of the process there, and perhaps even withdraw from it.

At the very least he should make it known that he doesn’t approve of what took place.

There may be political corruption and misbehavior there. A judge didn’t think so, but judges can get it wrong.

In life F-ups do take place. At times that’s all they are. It could be more than that here, but I’m not convinced of it yet.

Thanks for the comments. I can understand where you’re coming from.


68 posted on 01/18/2012 8:59:48 AM PST by DoughtyOne (This administration is Barawkward... yes lets try everything that failed in the 20th Century. NOT!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Thank you for your support.

Mitt has no choice but to withdraw from the Virginia primary. Else he supports what turned out to be a corrupt practice (at least in appearance, and probably in fact).

His own Chairman was involved in this.

Here's where Romney really fails. He has no moral center that tells him certain behaviors by underlings appear to be IMMORAL.

That's in line with him ending up raising taxes on the blind, a small thing, no doubt, in his eyes, and in the eyes of many of his supporters on FR, but a very good example of what we'd see in a Romney regime.

69 posted on 01/18/2012 9:46:35 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: TheDon
No. There are no write-ins in Virginia primaries.

The party bosses don't want to be bothered with public opinion ~ as should be perfectly clear by now.

Did you realize that the laws we are dealing with popped up under DEMOCRAT governors.

70 posted on 01/18/2012 9:48:34 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: ConservativeInPA
I wanted the federales to step in and guarantee that Virginia has a republican form of government ~ and not an oligarchy.

The judges didn't want to do their Constitutional duty.

And who are you? Do you live here? Did you have SKIN IN THE GAME?

71 posted on 01/18/2012 9:59:35 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: trumandogz

I have a very special rough cut piece of timber for you to get your ride out of the state.


72 posted on 01/18/2012 10:01:02 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: trumandogz
This involves the Presidential Elector selection process. That's VERY MUCH within federal purview.

The 10th Amendment has to do with a wide variety of other matters not otherwise identified as federal questions.

You should read the Constitution some day.

73 posted on 01/18/2012 10:03:16 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: DoughtyOne
BTW, they are lying to you about the other litigation being their source of concern. ELSE they'd not set a cut off of 15,000 signatures to avoid doing a validation.

The guy with the lawsuit isn't concerned with the numeric standards ~ his concern was with validation processes, and simply raising the number doesn't really address that question.

It did the address the issue of Romney probably not having 10,000 valid names and addresses.

74 posted on 01/18/2012 10:06:36 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Okay, then what you seem to be saying is that the Republican party leadership only wanted Romney and Paul on the ballot, and they were willing to do just about anything to make that happen. Do you really believe that?


75 posted on 01/18/2012 10:21:55 AM PST by DoughtyOne (This administration is Barawkward... yes lets try everything that failed in the 20th Century. NOT!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yes.


76 posted on 01/18/2012 10:41:59 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Well, you may very well be right. I don’t share that view, but I’ve been wrong before. Take care.


77 posted on 01/18/2012 10:57:32 AM PST by DoughtyOne (This administration is Barawkward... yes lets try everything that failed in the 20th Century. NOT!)
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To: muawiyah

Party primaries are not part of the “Presidential Elector selection process” and are not prescribed in the Constitution.

Furthermore, it party primaries have nothing to do with the 14th Amendment either.

Instead, party primaries are prescribed parties and by state legislatures and that is why there is a wide variety of primaries and caucuses.

Some states have primaries, some have caucuses and some have open primaries and some have closed primaries.

There is not Equal Protection in the party primary process and that is why a party can hold a closed primary where they can exclude certain citizens from voting.


78 posted on 01/18/2012 1:19:56 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: muawiyah

“I have a very special rough cut piece of timber for you to get your ride out of the state.”

Ok, thanks for letting me know. The next time I am in Virginia, I will take note and have a laugh.

However, earlier you implied that the Virginia GOP Primary rules were the toughest in the nation and are therefore unconstitutional and you were not able to cite the part of the US Constitution that deemed tough rules to be unconstitutional.

Can you please cite the “Tough Rules” clause in the Constitution?


79 posted on 01/18/2012 1:28:11 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
Speaking of your problem with OUTSIDE AGITATORS, seems you do be one yo'sef. Hey, Cletus, give me that to'arch, we got some thangs to do!

Gingrich, who also signed onto the suit, is a Virginia resident and has been for quite some time.

80 posted on 01/18/2012 1:40:40 PM PST by muawiyah
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