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Project to pour water into volcano to make power
Fuel Fix ^ | January 16, 2012 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/16/2012 7:27:17 AM PST by thackney

Geothermal energy developers plan to pump 24 million gallons of water into the side of a dormant volcano in Central Oregon this summer to demonstrate new technology they hope will give a boost to a green energy sector that has yet to live up to its promise.

They hope the water comes back to the surface fast enough and hot enough to create cheap, clean electricity that isn’t dependent on sunny skies or stiff breezes — without shaking the earth and rattling the nerves of nearby residents.

Renewable energy has been held back by cheap natural gas, weak demand for power and waning political concern over global warming. Efforts to use the earth’s heat to generate power, known as geothermal energy, have been further hampered by technical problems and worries that tapping it can cause earthquakes.

Even so, the federal government, Google and other investors are interested enough to bet $43 million on the Oregon project. They are helping AltaRock Energy, Inc. of Seattle and Davenport Newberry Holdings LLC of Stamford, Conn., demonstrate whether the next level in geothermal power development can work on the flanks of Newberrry Volcano, located about 20 miles south of Bend, Ore.

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Wells are drilled deep into the rock and water is pumped in, creating tiny fractures in the rock, a process known as hydroshearing.

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Hydroshearing is similar to the process known as hydraulic fracturing...

(Excerpt) Read more at fuelfix.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: energy; fracking; geothermal; oregon; volcano
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1 posted on 01/16/2012 7:27:30 AM PST by thackney
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2 posted on 01/16/2012 7:28:33 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: thackney

What could possibly go wrong?


3 posted on 01/16/2012 7:28:33 AM PST by BipolarBob (I don't mind you shooting at me, Frank, but take it easy on the Bacardi!)
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To: thackney

That region of the globe is overdue for a really large earthquake anyway. When it happens, and it will happen, it will be blamed on this sort of technology irrespective of actual, uh, “fault.”


4 posted on 01/16/2012 7:30:37 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks thackney.
Geothermal energy developers plan to pump 24 million gallons of water into the side of a dormant volcano in Central Oregon this summer to demonstrate new technology they hope will give a boost to a green energy sector that has yet to live up to its promise.
As you may have guessed, it's another one of Zero's harebrained 'green' wastes of taxpayer green. The company should rename itself Volyndra.


5 posted on 01/16/2012 7:31:09 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: BipolarBob

That was my first thought. Man oh man.


6 posted on 01/16/2012 7:34:14 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: thackney

The big difference is that fracking isn’t dumping water onto superheated rock causing the water to flash to steam. (Which creates some serious pressure)


7 posted on 01/16/2012 7:34:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: BipolarBob
What could possibly go wrong?

Well, first off, the government will 'get involved' which will shut down the process if it turns out successful.

8 posted on 01/16/2012 7:34:27 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: thackney

But then the Thetans may escape!


9 posted on 01/16/2012 7:34:39 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: BipolarBob
What could possibly go wrong?
It did wonders for the people of Pompeii.

10 posted on 01/16/2012 7:35:00 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: thackney

Kaboooo!!!!!.....


11 posted on 01/16/2012 7:35:22 AM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: BipolarBob

Indeed. I’m just a poor engineer, but drilling into the side of a volcano strikes me as a really, really bad idea.


12 posted on 01/16/2012 7:35:37 AM PST by wbill
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To: musicman
The problem is that if you just pump the water into the ground and let direct action heat it it also picks up a lot of minerals and salts from the volcanic rock around it. It would be like sand blasting the inside of your turbine. Saying that turbines don't like hard water is something of an understatement. So you have to use a heat exchanger to transfer heat from the hard water coming out of the ground to “clean” water used for the turbine. But now you have another point of heat loss to the water coming out of the ground needs to be very hot or you end up with saturated steam in your turbine loop.
13 posted on 01/16/2012 7:37:38 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: BipolarBob

“What could possibly go wrong?”

I could see where the project workers could get really steamed over this.


14 posted on 01/16/2012 7:38:00 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: thackney

This is right up there with the plan to send millions of mirrors into orbit to reflect the sunlight and reduce “global warming.”


15 posted on 01/16/2012 7:38:34 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim (Democrats:always looking for someone else to blame)
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To: SunkenCiv

You can bet if there’s taxpayer money involved,
the shareholders in this company are big contributors to democRats and 0bama.


16 posted on 01/16/2012 7:40:29 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: BipolarBob

Isn’t this water that belongs to some endangered minnow?


17 posted on 01/16/2012 7:41:41 AM PST by depressed in 06 ( Where is the 1984 Apple Super Bowl ad when we need it?)
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To: thackney
Just remember, if you ever drop your keys into a river of molten lava, let 'em go.

Because, man, they're gone.

18 posted on 01/16/2012 7:42:56 AM PST by Dick Holmes
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The U.S. Department of Energy has given the project $21.5 million in stimulus funds. That has been matched by private investors, among them Google with $6.3 million.


19 posted on 01/16/2012 7:43:27 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: BipolarBob

“Would Ms.Saint Helen please pick up the courtesy phone”


20 posted on 01/16/2012 7:47:48 AM PST by blackdog (And justice for all.....(Offer not valid in all locations, and prices vary))
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