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Allen West on Marines Incident: "Shut Your Mouth, War Is Hell"
http://townhall.com ^ | January 13, 2013 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 01/15/2012 8:01:20 AM PST by NKP_Vet

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To: NKP_Vet

Once again the damn media got it wrong. Those Marines were rendering first aid for jellyfish stings . . .


21 posted on 01/15/2012 10:35:03 AM PST by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: maine-iac7

YES! Thank you, FRiend.


22 posted on 01/15/2012 11:24:06 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Hoplite; All
pi*s on that attitude - they also deserve a CIC who favors them over the enemy -
Instead, they have a CIC who is PERSONALLY responsible for more than tripling our soldiers killed - in order to protect the enemy.

That might piss you off a bit to -
Where's your outrage over our soldiers being denied air cover, being killed - about our soldiers not being able to shoot until the Taliban get the first shot - giving then first kill advantage? Where's your condemnation about the things I posted in post 20?

I'm with Col. West - “Shut your mouth...”

23 posted on 01/15/2012 12:41:04 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: maine-iac7
I merely state that if you're comfortable with abandoning our standards simply because that's what our enemies do, then you're contemptible.

As to the rest of your post, well, I won't kid you. I don't care what your opinion is.

24 posted on 01/15/2012 1:14:05 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: maine-iac7
The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.

Seems like my Congressman (West) is more "liberal" than many on this forum, who think that there should be no punishment at all for these Marines.

Part of what makes our military better than others is the fact that such incidents (the abuse of dead enemy combatants) are rare, as they should be. And, IMHO, these incidents should neither be gleefully celebrated nor hysterically condemned.

War is hell.

25 posted on 01/15/2012 1:39:51 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: NKP_Vet

What is our military mission in Afghanistan, because if the military units that are operating there (from top O to bottom E) don’t know that, then we are wasting money and lives? We should pull out now if the mission is unclear. I would support it now.

If our mission is to attack and destroy an enemy, then pxssing on their dead bodies is a great tactic to intimidate an enemy.

If our mission is to win the hearts and minds then this act sets us back.

Public officials should fully understand this before opening their mouth, and much before 20+ yo Marines in combat with lots of adrenaline, testosterone, bravado and patriotism (that 60yos like myself have long forgot except for patriotism. They and us are far removed from those that sent them, who prefer collecting 7 digit pay while living the lap of luxury in an Upper Manhattan Apt..

This isn’t about politics it is about the importance of an absolutely coherent focused military mission understood by all involved.

Did I post this before? I probably forgot to push the final post button. We all hate wasting time rewriting posts.


26 posted on 01/15/2012 3:58:49 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: davisfh; All
Totally simpatico with your 'offing' MO per viral; malignant Liberals.

We have had many failings; but believe our acquiescence to political correctness has been our most critical surrender to this disease that destroys mind and spirit - and nation.

And yes; while we have lost so much ground; do still believe; America can pull it out. No question; however; if we do not do it now; then 'never' will be be a long, long time. (Do believe, only Newt understands the myriad of critical issues we face as a nation.)

Do not understand how anyone can imagine that any luxury of time remains on our side.

To be - or not to be - America;. For all 'intents and purposes'; Election 2012 is our last call. . .

27 posted on 01/15/2012 5:49:34 PM PST by cricket ( We have occupiers in our White House. Vote them out (and vote Newt in).)
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So you don't think apologising to the families; is punishment enough along with with Official' reprimands'?

Would offer the already 'hysterical' demands for 'redress' by conscience-striken Liberals - and Islamists - is another punishment - that none of them deserves, in truth. Allowing, of course; that Liberals and Islamists; do not have the 'normal' conscience that we are giving name to. Theirs is a pained conscience (of convenience); supposedly claimed, on behalf of these Marines; and one, that otherwise; is never called into 'personal use'.

28 posted on 01/15/2012 6:04:40 PM PST by cricket ( We have occupiers in our White House. Vote them out (and vote Newt in).)
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To: cricket

Point Blank.. I did two tours as a (combat) MP. While out in the Red Zone, you disregard many of the civilities we were brought up and raised in. It is war, we all do sh+t out there, I know I did. I know on my first tour as Patrol Leader, I made a few new terrorists. but so what, my troops came home..alive. so what if the Marines pissed on the dead bodies. What about the 3,000 plus Americans who were killed in NYC on 911?


29 posted on 02/01/2013 7:03:25 PM PST by ma bell (Screw the Illegal Aliens... ps - they are illegal aliens..not "undocumented workers")
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I’m with West on this.


30 posted on 02/01/2013 7:05:16 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: ma bell

addendum.. the 2 101st that were beheaded, I trained with that company at NTC the summer prior to their deployment, at FOB Miami / Ft Irwin.


31 posted on 02/01/2013 7:05:45 PM PST by ma bell (Screw the Illegal Aliens... ps - they are illegal aliens..not "undocumented workers")
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To: NKP_Vet

Very nice! 2 thumbs up!


32 posted on 02/01/2013 8:10:52 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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