Posted on 01/14/2012 2:50:38 AM PST by count-your-change
In an interesting and somewhat surprising move, Andrea Rossi now says that the home-based E-Cats he is planning to launch can be refueled by the customer. Rossi was asked by a reader of his blog how often and by whom the E-Cats would be recharged.
Rossi replied: ” 1- Yes, every 6 months the domestic E-Cat will have to be refilled. 2- the refilling operation will be made by the Customer himself or by his usual plumber, or installer. It will be a very simple operation.” (emphasis added)
The big change here is that previously, Rossi has always said that one of his agents would do all the refueling, even though the the procedure would be very simple. Rossi has always been very protective of his trade secrets, and the surprise here is that he now is going to let the customer handle the part of the reactor that presumably contains the prepared powdered nickel. Perhaps that reactor does not contain the secret catalyst, or perhaps he feels the refill is protected in such a way that it won’t be possible to uncover the secret........
(Excerpt) Read more at e-catworld.com ...
Now the latest announcement by Rossi is that the problem of refueling every six months or so by a technician has been solved or will be solved.
E-Cat is short for the term “energy catalyzer” and is a device in which hydrogen gas, powdered nickel metal, and an undisclosed proprietary catalyst are combined to produce a large amount of heat through a little understood low energy nuclear reaction (LENR) process inside a specially designed chamber. The inner workings of the reactor are covered by a trade secret which Rossi consistently refuses to discuss.
In this process, when an external heat source is applied (Electric or fossil) it is claimed that the nucleus of a hydrogen atom, a proton, penetrates a nickel nucleus and in doing so a nickel atom becomes a copper atom, and releases gamma rays creating a large amount of thermal energy. From reports of tests, it appears that the reaction begins when the reactor is heated to around 60 degrees Celsius, and once the reaction is stable, the external heat can be turned off and the reaction can continue for a considerable length of time. In an October 6th test in Bologna, Italy, the E-Cat ran without external heat (referred to as ‘self-sustain mode) for almost four hours, maintaining a constant temperature and boiling water continuously.
How long the E-Cat can run in self sustain mode without external heat being applied is unknown, but Andrea Rossi has said that for safe and stable operations it is necessary that the external heat source be cycled on and off.
The energy produced by the nuclear reactions is used to heat water, and the output of the E-Cat is hot water or steam. Lead and Boron are used as a shield to prevent the release of gamma rays during the reactions, and when the reactions are complete (The hydrogen input is turned off) there is no radioactive waste.
The significance of the E-Cat as an energy source is that it can produce energy at a much cheaper rate and much more cleanly than other sources on the market. The major ingredients, nickel and hydrogen are common elements and readily available at low cost and are consumed in very small quantities. There is no release of CO2 or other greenhouse gases from the E-Cat. Unlike traditional nuclear fission power, no radioactive materials are involved, and no radioactive waste is produced.
That does it.
I’m calling “Mr. Fusion.”
I’m been following this ecat from the start. Insane. 1 day you think this is absolutely a scam. The next you think there’s no way in ehll it’s not true. Back and forth, on and on.
I’m tired of it. But I keep on checking it out.
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Unfortunately, if Rossi did the following:
1) hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be the customer reps,
2) created an elaborate year-long special-effects-derived series of demos,
3) bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos
4) arranged for Piantelli, Miley and a host of others to try to fool the world into thinking that cold fusion was real,
5) got NASA, SPAWAR, The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and The Defense Intelligence Agency to say nice things about the field,
6) got Bushnell to make a fool of himself,
7) and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum
-—— or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow,
8) sold his profitable company to his ex-partners in order to spend that wealth on a multi-million dollar scam;
-—— certain that once he got all the above ducks in a row he would pretend to sell the first device
-—— and then reel in the true target of his dastardly plan
9) and convinced a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion
-—— to pretend to fight with him over the non-existent eCat,
-—— to perpetuate the illusion and spin it off into a competing mirror-scam
[the second (this time genuine) buyer of a 1MW plant that will net him $2 million dollars
-—— until they want their money back or sucker a $100 million dollar deal under the table
-—— because he has experience in pulling the wool over all these idiotic eyes
-—— and knows that they will just take his word for it
-—— and not want to test if his 1MW plant can heat a small village without truckloads of coal or oil or a big fat electric cable coming into the container from beneath the floor (no you can’t lift the carpet!) ]
10) and that, in order to pull this off, Rossi had to risk discovery by interviewing all the people he subsequently fooled so that he could only invite the gullible Professors and not the brilliant anonymous posters on the Internet who surely would have found him out
then, yes, all bets are off and I’m with the guys who think that Rossi is an idiot and they are all geniuses.
The Cold Fusion Ping List
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles
Unfortunately, if Rossi did the following:
1) hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be the customer reps,
2) created an elaborate year-long special-effects-derived series of demos,
3) bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos
4) arranged for Piantelli, Miley and a host of others to try to fool the world into thinking that cold fusion was real,
5) got NASA, SPAWAR, The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and The Defense Intelligence Agency to say nice things about the field,
6) got Bushnell to make a fool of himself,
7) and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum
-—— or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow,
8) sold his profitable company to his ex-partners in order to spend that wealth on a multi-million dollar scam;
-—— certain that once he got all the above ducks in a row he would pretend to sell the first device
-—— and then reel in the true target of his dastardly plan
9) and convinced a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion
-—— to pretend to fight with him over the non-existent eCat,
-—— to perpetuate the illusion and spin it off into a competing mirror-scam
[the second (this time genuine) buyer of a 1MW plant that will net him $2 million dollars
-—— until they want their money back or sucker a $100 million dollar deal under the table
-—— because he has experience in pulling the wool over all these idiotic eyes
-—— and knows that they will just take his word for it
-—— and not want to test if his 1MW plant can heat a small village without truckloads of coal or oil or a big fat electric cable coming into the container from beneath the floor (no you can’t lift the carpet!) ]
10) and that, in order to pull this off, Rossi had to risk discovery by interviewing all the people he subsequently fooled so that he could only invite the gullible Professors and not the brilliant anonymous posters on the Internet who surely would have found him out
then, yes, all bets are off and I’m with the guys who think that Rossi is an idiot and they are all geniuses.
Now the latest announcement by Rossi is that the problem of refueling every six months or so by a technician has been solved or will be solvedThe most interesting part of this is that Rossi claims he "enriches" the Nickel "fuel" used in the E-Cat so that it has more of specific isotopes. He claims to be able to do this without any significant equipment, and for pennies a gram (otherwise he couldn't be offering a six-month "refill" for only $10 - $20). LINK
This process of isotope enrichment is the same process necessary to produce nuclear bombs. It is a major industrial process, which can strain the capabilities of entire nations. For example, Iran is currently working on this for their nuclear program. LINK
This process, if Rossi can really do it, is far more valuable than the E-Cat itself, and yet Rossi treats it as no big deal.
There is also the fact that the isotope analysis of the "fuel" and "ash" supposedly from a working E-Cat shows no sign of the isotope "enrichment" that Rossi describes, nor does it show any signs of any transmutation isotopes (only the isotopes found in natural Nickel, Iron and Copper).
Note that Kullander said that a detailed analysis of the Rossi E-Cat "fuel" and "ash" would be released by Christmas. LINK
We're still waiting.
Well said. I completely concur!
reload that puppy!
All doubt would evaporate with one demonstration of an actual working model.........Waiting!!!
We will know one way or the other in a very short time.
If the E-Cat is really what it claims to be, this will be a substantial positive change in a modern life. One implication will be to substantially neutralize a significant leftist issue of hydrocarbon consumption. I can’t wait to see how they will respond. Will they turn on the E-Cat and decry it as a “risky” technology that must be banned until proven safe?
Millions of the domestic variety are on the way, workers are being recruited, factories stand at the ready to fill the orders received, companies are being formed and partnerships forged,.......can’t you just feel the excitement building??!! No? Me either.
The big science, after trying to ridiculize us, now has understood that the E-Cat works, so now they are trying to copy and make patents to overcome us, discourage us and trying with this sophysticated way to stop us under a disguise of an indirect vindication. Is a smart move, but they are underevaluating us. I will never stop, within one year we will start the delivery of million pieces at 50 $/kW, with a totally new concept, at that point the game will be over. This technology must be popular, must cost a very low price, must be a real revoluton, not a bunch of theoretical (wrong) chatters.
You don’t have to worry about the “risky stuff” if it works GE will buy it and stuff it. Am I the only one that remembers the Natural/Propane gas converter (proven by our satellite technology) that was being developed and targeted at 5k per household a few years ago? It was tested at a NY police station where the cost to add power lines etc underground was prohibitive. GE bought it out and stuffed the project.
Nothing is a big deal unless one can actually do it. The most important accomplishment so far is an attempt at name change from cold fusion to Rossi-Focardi Low Energy Nuclear Reaction to give an air of reality to the rabbit Rossi says is in the hat.
Every once in while Rossi announces something new about how the rabbit will be pulled from the hat, how big it will be, when it will happen, where it will happen, how much it will cost........But we never see the hare for the hype!
Excuse me....more valuable than controlled, easy to implement fusion reactions?? Sorry....no.
From the picture Mr. Fusion may be a little late today.
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