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GM challenges German brands with small (compact) Cadillac
Reuters ^ | 1/09/12 | Deepa Seetharaman, Ben Klayman

Posted on 01/09/2012 6:34:06 AM PST by Libloather

GM challenges German brands with small Cadillac
By Deepa Seetharaman and Ben Klayman
DETROIT | Mon Jan 9, 2012 7:55am EST

(Reuters) - General Motors Co proved with the Chevrolet Cruze it can build a top-selling compact car, cracking a market long dominated by Japanese brands.

Now the No.1 U.S. automaker is targeting the entrenched German luxury brands with a more nimble compact Cadillac.

The 2013 ATS is central to GM chief executive Dan Akerson's mission to refashion Cadillac into a global luxury brand by winning over younger buyers with a sportier image.

From the start, GM took aim at BMW's 3-Series, the dominant car in this segment along with the Mercedes-Benz C-Class. Luxury compacts make up two-thirds of the luxury car market in the United States, according to Autodata.

GM has failed in this segment before, however. In the early 1980s, GM launched the Cadillac Cimarron, which Time magazine in 2007 called one of the 50-worst cars ever built.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cadillac; compact; germany; gm
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To: nikos1121

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110805/RETAIL01/308059869/1401


41 posted on 01/09/2012 7:32:07 AM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I have an uncle who owns a Mercedes C-class (C63 AMG). Caddy will have to do a lot more than rebadge a Chevy to match that car.


42 posted on 01/09/2012 7:32:47 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Libloather

GM has been marketing cadillac as the American bmw for years. They went broke doing it. So, they’re going to try it again. Here’s an idea. Make a big car with lots of convenience features on it. I don’t care how many Gs it can pull in a corner. I’m not fighting migs. Make it affordable. Quit funding the Democrat party through the UAW.


43 posted on 01/09/2012 7:33:43 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: 1rudeboy
That GM is a government and union owned company that fleeced the American people for more than $9B. THAT is what is NOT to like.

Plus, comparing any GM car to a Mercedes or BMW is just foolish.

44 posted on 01/09/2012 7:33:49 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Indeed. Those have been among the past criticism of Caddies in Europe (poor road manners and uninspired handling). Providing a RWD platform with a manual tranny is a good start, but Caddy will have to make sure that the handling and performance are also “up to snuff.”


45 posted on 01/09/2012 7:36:32 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: blueunicorn6
Make a big car with lots of convenience features on it.

You forgot to add, "and do it in a way that does not seem cheap." When you say, "Make it affordable," what sort of price range do you have in mind?
46 posted on 01/09/2012 7:42:15 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Red Badger

I drive an 83 Eldorado Biarritz. NOTHING geezer about that car... At least I hope there isn’t. :)


47 posted on 01/09/2012 7:42:23 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Libloather

Is there an “automobile” ping list, and how do I get on it?


48 posted on 01/09/2012 7:43:12 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: 1rudeboy; Libloather; Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama

I drove a 6 speed VW in Germany back in 2008. The engine ran smoothly and I could not tell it was a diesel. And drove at 130 KM for most long drives that week, delightfull. As I was in the Heidelberg-Frankfurt area, 130 KPH was the max speed for the Autobahn.


49 posted on 01/09/2012 7:44:32 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Solson

Another negative is that it is a UAW-built car. More money to big labor goonery.


50 posted on 01/09/2012 7:49:40 AM PST by pogo101
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Look carefully into the rear view mirror......................;^)


51 posted on 01/09/2012 7:49:44 AM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
I drive an 83 Eldorado Biarritz. NOTHING geezer about that car... At least I hope there isn’t. :)

No no , not at all, cutting edge, envied by the youth crowd, classic performance... ; )

52 posted on 01/09/2012 7:51:34 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Yup, good luck with that.

I'm driving an HHR (rental) right now. It's an enormous piece of junk. Reminds me why I prefer Fords.

My last rental was an Impala. I took it over to show my Dad (who was car-looking at the time). His comment? "This car wishes it was a Cadillac".

53 posted on 01/09/2012 7:54:57 AM PST by wbill
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To: Libloather

Its just another Chevy with more bells, whistles and a higher price tag.


54 posted on 01/09/2012 7:58:58 AM PST by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

He should have gotten the all-wheel-drive model of the CTS if you live in snow country. I’m pretty sure they’ve been available with AWD from the beginning.


55 posted on 01/09/2012 8:08:11 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: whitedog57
GM just can’t help shooting themselves in the foot. Watch for the new Caddy to be a Cruze with leather, bling and some other trivial change to convince Germans that it isn’t a rebadge Cruze.

Come on, folks, does anyone do any research before posting? The ATS is not a rebadged Cruze. The ATS is a RWD car on a totally new platform. The Cruze is a FWD car on an existing GM compact platform (Delta II).

Other than the fact that my tax dollars bailed out GM, I have no dog in this fight. I don't own stock in GM, and I drive a Japanese make. However, I can't see how it does this forum any good to post factually wrong comments about GM or its vehicles.
56 posted on 01/09/2012 8:09:58 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: FreedomPoster

I don’t think it was available when he bought his (AWD). But, he doesn’t drive much more than to and from work, the airport, and the golf course.

What I don’t understand is why the automakers have dropped nearly all the front wheel drive full sized sedans. AWD chews up tires. Don’t need 4WHD at our place. But we DO need FWD. In any case, the Cadillac DTS fills that niche for us. I’m just afraid they’ll drop that model, and I’ll have to go to a truck. Looking for a 3 year old model, coming off lease, drops the price from about $52,000 to around $25,000, or less. We purchased one with only 18,000 miles on it last spring and just love it. I still don’t know how to operate all the features. When my husband is driving, I carry the owners manual in my lap and try to learn something new each trip. LOL


57 posted on 01/09/2012 8:25:59 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Mechanicos
Its just another Chevy with more bells, whistles and a higher price tag.

Shirley you don't mean my Escalade is just a Suburban with a Cadillac sticker on it?

58 posted on 01/09/2012 8:35:20 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Properly done AWD does not chew up tires. I’ve been driving AWD cars for more than a decade now.

FWD makes for lousy driving dynamics most of the time, especially for bigger vehicles.


59 posted on 01/09/2012 8:35:52 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Libloather

I rented a Cadillac on a trip recently. Although the ride was okay, I found it no better than the Toyota Camry I usually rent. It certainly wasn’t worth the difference in the price tag. Full disclosure-I long ago swore off GM due to poor quality and have stated so on FR. I admit to having an anti Government Motors attitude and don’t expect this new Caddy to live up to its hype. GM has a penchant for over promising and under delivering.


60 posted on 01/09/2012 8:40:07 AM PST by rex regnum insanit (falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus)
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