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Posted on 01/08/2012 12:09:05 PM PST by TitansAFC
Romney 30%
Gingrich 23%
Santorum 19%
Paul 9%
Perry 5%
Huntsman 4%
(Excerpt) Read more at publicpolicypolling.com ...
Older people vote more than younger people. Older people tend not to be on twitter much.
reply to 102...well said...Santorum is what Romney needs
I think Cain has already decided what he will do and I expect Cain’s endosement to benefit...Cain. DeMint’s, however, is worth seeking.
We have time, if if if we can avoid the media coronation ( hint: media coronation NOT in the constitution) of mitt on Tues. We can let SC happen too. At that point, all conservatives need to solidify under One Not Romney. (not counting Paul of course). We can see how the first conservative state primary turns out. But at that point, we need to put aside our favorite and vote for the one who did the best in SC: Santorum, Gingrich, and perry. Period. No mitt, no Obama.
Flashback (from... six days ago) from the “most accurate pollsters”, PPP:
“Ron Paul Maintains Lead in Latest PPP Iowa Poll”...
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120102005066/en/Ron-Paul-Maintains-Lead-Latest-PPP-Iowa
You are missing my main point.
The moment it became Paul or Romney in VA, I said everyone should vote for Paul (winner takes all), to deny Romney all of those delegates.
I begged everyone to vote for whomever has the best chance of beating Romney in SC and FL (Winner takes all) LONG before Gingrich was even in contention. At the time I first started begging people, Herman Cain was ahead in the polls. I was prepared to beg people to vote for Cain.
Since day one, I have been all about beating Mitt Romney, and doing so state by state if need be, denying him every possible delegate every step of the way.
Now it looks as if sheer stubborness and/or some warped purity is going to do to us in SC what it did in 2008. Don’t you get it? It doesn’t matter if Santorum finishes in third with 19% or second with 20% - same with Newt - it won’t make a lick of difference because ROMNEY WILL GET ALL OF THE DELEGATES!!!!!!
There are two weeks and two days until SC. All I am asking is what I have asked of people ALL ALONG: vote for whomever has the best chance of beating Romney in your state when it comes to your state. If that becomes Santorum, I will GLADLY vote for Santorum to deny Romney any delegates if he proves to be the guy.
If the polls show Santorum as the closest to Romney the weekend before SC, the I will advocate voting for Santorum. If the polls show Newt as the closest, then I will beg people to vote for Newt. Remember, there is ABSOLUTELY NO POINT TO SECOND PLACE, and Florida has a humongous FIFTY deleagtes a week after SC.
Don’t marry yourself to ANY candidate, be it Newt or Rick. No CONSERVICIDE this time around!!!
I figured as much, wishful thinking and the hoping thing.
Well, I think you’ve got it all backwards.
I supported Cain when he had 4 percent. I supported him when he had 24 percent and was leading Romney.
Why? Because I believed he was the best conservative. I could understand your position if it were Newt at 25 percent and Santorum at 5. But that’s not the case anymore.
Santorum actually beat Mitt in Iowa. Beat Newt too. Writing him off because he ‘lived in Iowa all year’, seems to me the kind of smear that we really don’t need.
If Newt really were going to be the nominee, then I really don’t see how attacking Santorum helps him. Newt’s fallen a long way in a short while, was unable to get on the VA ballot, etc. Hasn’t really shown evidence for an extensive organization. He was also short cash, not too long ago too.
Newt had every Negative Cain had, minus the experience, and lacked the advantage of high positives and a sky high negative.
Fast forward two months. None of that with Newt has changed. Same negatives as before, except now with Cain out, Cain folks have gravitated to Santorum. Solid conservative, but until now, no traction with the electorate.
So here’s my thought. How about folks vote for the fellow who’s beliefs are closest to their own and forget about all the electibility nonsense? Just vote, and let your faith in your fellow conservatives guide you to the right answer.
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You know, I'm not much for consipiracy theories, but I've got to wonder if that isn't right. He was all set to pull out. He spent MILLIONS in Iowa only to finish 5th. He's pulling 1% in NH. He has ZERO chance o get the nod. ZERO.
Now I'll admit, Newt and Santorum don't have great chances as it looks now, either. But both have some chance. Perry has none. None. So why did he not make the eminently sensible decision he appeared about to make?
Gotta wonder. I believe the loser between Newt and Santorum should drop out as well after SC...even if it's my guy (Newt). In this scenario anyone seriously committed to the conservative cause should make his best run and drop out once it's clear he won't be the non-Romney to give the others a chance. Bachmann did, to her credit.
If Perry pulls 6 or 8% in SC and it's the difference between Myth and Romney getting the nod, I hope he'll be happy with himself. And if he winds up ENDORSING The Vile One? Well, we'll know then for sure why he stayed in, won't we?
Hank
Did you vote for McCain in '08? Or did you vote for Palin?
that’s hilarious and frightening - it shows how easily led the Sheeple are.
Which is EXACTLY why Perry is still in the race. To help elect ROMNEY.”
and ROMNEY IS THERE TO SET UP OBAMA FOR ANOTHER 4. The anger that will ensue if this ever were to become a reality will be monumental.
Herman Cain.
If he uses the SC primary to promote himself and whatever he's go it in mind - he should just butt out.
Either endorse someone or stay quiet.
He is going to endorse about 4 days before the SC Primary.
Patrick J. Buchanan, who lost SC to Dole, said that there is a large entrenched GOP organization in the state that dictates nomination choices. He thinks Romney is unstoppable.
You are an independent, strategic political thinker, unlike most of our little Republican primary voters who have to be spoon-fed by the party organization.
Mr. Cain’s endorsement, if it happens, would have NO impact on me. It could well be that he is backing Romney too.
Lousy, yes, but our little Republican primary voters don’t know that. It’s amazing how uninformed they are despite all the political news out there.
If we’re going to be herded, let’s at least be astute enough to recognize it as it’s happening.
http://www.ehow.com/info_8665249_effect-media-voting-behavior.html
The Effect of Media on Voting Behavior
Leading up to elections, voters often rely on the media as a source of information for each candidate running for office. Since the average voter does not know each candidate personally, they will turn to newspapers, TV, radio or the Internet to get information on where the candidates stand on particular issues in order to make an informed decision. Media exposure can therefore play a direct role in how a person ultimately casts their vote.
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Opinion Polls
By their nature, opinion polls influence what choices voters make going into an election. An opinion poll can create what is called a bandwagon effect. In this situation, a poll can prompt some voters to back a candidate who is shown to have a significant lead in the poll because they believe that candidate will win the election. These voters act out of a desire to align themselves with the popular candidate. Opinion polls can also work to influence public perception of a candidate. If a poll is taken after a candidate makes a major speech or debate, poll numbers will frame the context in which voters view that speech or debate. If they are trailing, the candidate is viewed as struggling in the campaign. If they lead, they are seen as the frontrunner.
http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/Bandwagon_effect
BANDWAGON EFFECT
The Bandwagon effect, also known as social proof or “cromo effect” and closely related to opportunism, is the observation that people often do and believe things because many other people do and believe the same things. The effect is often pejoratively called “herding instinct,” particularly when applied to adolescents. People tend to follow the crowd without examining the merits of a particular thing. The bandwagon effect is the reason for the bandwagon fallacy’s success.
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Origin of the phrase
The phrase “jump on the bandwagon” first appeared in American politics in 1848 when Dan Rice, a famous and popular circus clown of the time, used his bandwagon and its music to gain attention for Zachary Taylor’s campaign appearances. As Taylor’s campaign became more successful, more politicians strove for a seat on the bandwagon, hoping to be associated with the success. Later, during the time of William Jennings Bryan’s 1900 presidential campaign, bandwagons had become standard in campaigns,[3] and “jump on the bandwagon” was used as a derogatory term, implying that people were associating themselves with the success without considering what they associated themselves with.
Use in Politics
The bandwagon effect occurs in voting: some people vote for those candidates or parties who are likely to succeed (or are proclaimed as such by the media), hoping to be on the ‘winner’s side’ in the end.[4] The Bandwagon effect has been applied to situations involving majority opinion, such as political outcomes, where people alter their opinions to the majority view (McAllister and Studlar 721). Such a shift in opinion can occur because individuals draw inferences from the decisions of others, as in an informational cascade.
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