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Jim Robinson: Taking stock of our dwindling conservative inventory
Jan 5, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 01/05/2012 11:23:02 AM PST by Jim Robinson

Tea party favorite and pro-life conservative Sarah Palin and her family were viciously attacked to the point she chose not to run.

Congressional Tea Party Caucus leader and constitutional pro-life conservative Michele Bachmann had early promise, but I guess came across as too "shrill" and consequently her numbers driven down to the point she exited.

Successful pro-life conservative Texas Governor Perry hit the race at the top but due to missteps and less than stellar debate performances soon fizzled and is now all but gone.

Pro-life conservative businessman Cain and his famous 9-9-9 plan had promise, but was driven out due to indefensible allegations.

Pro-life Reagan Revolution conservative Newt Gingrich reinvigorated his campaign and soared to the top of the national polls, but was unacceptable to the establishment and apparently also unacceptable to the "true conservatives" among us and his numbers are now plummeting

You'd think "unquestionably" pro-life, pro-family conservative Rick Santorum whose recent surge took him to a tie in Iowa and who's now surging in the national polls might be good enough to stand against Romney for the base, but looks like there are "true conservatives" now attacking HIM as not good enough.

Well, drive them all out and who's left?

Huntsman? Who? Moonbat Paul?

Ideas anyone? Should we all continue attacking the conservatives we don't like until we drive them all out?

Personally, I could easily have lived with Palin, Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Newt or Santorum and would be proud to enthusiastically support any of them, warts and all. Any one of them is infinitely better than Obama or Romney.

But if we don't land on one soon and raise him up over Romney, guess who we're going to be stuck with? And it ain't going to be pretty. And if abortionist/statist/progressive Romney (or moonbat Paul) is the one, might as well get used to four more years of Obama. I won't vote for or support either one of those two.

I'd suggest that we all stop trying to tear down the other conservative candidates in the race and instead concentrate on trying to build up our own personal favorites. Who knows? May even discover an acceptable conservative (if not a great conservative) in the bunch. We've never had a perfect conservative yet. Not even the magnificent Ronald Reagan. We and they all have warts.

But we do want to have a candidate with at least an actual CONSERVATIVE record and not an out and out liberal progressive RINO. So let's compare their records and their actual conservative accomplishments but not try to destroy them personally.

God bless and may the best CONSERVATIVE be our nominee.


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KEYWORDS: conservatives; elections; eleventhcommandment; gingrich; jimrobinson; newt
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1 posted on 01/05/2012 11:23:12 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Gingrich - Santorum 2012.

There, I said it!

2 posted on 01/05/2012 11:27:06 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yup. At this rate all the liberals, Republican elites and progressives have to do is sit back and watch the cat fight. When the blood stops running, they’ll win.


3 posted on 01/05/2012 11:27:56 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Jim Robinson
I've missed real discussion threads...thanks for providing this one. Hopefully civil and intelligent discourse will follow.

BTTT

4 posted on 01/05/2012 11:29:02 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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5 posted on 01/05/2012 11:29:26 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Jim Robinson

It’s looking like Gingrich or Santorum.
Santorum has good positions but comes off kind of punky.

Don’t count Perry out yet. I’d take any of the three.


6 posted on 01/05/2012 11:29:31 AM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: Jim Robinson
I'd suggest that we all stop trying to tear down the other conservative candidates in the race and instead concentrate on trying to build up our own personal favorites. Who knows? May even discover an acceptable conservative (if not a great conservative) in the bunch. We've never had a perfect conservative yet. Not even the magnificent Ronald Reagan. We and they all have warts.

But we do want to have a candidate with at least an actual CONSERVATIVE record and not an out and out liberal progressive RINO. So let's compare their records and their actual conservative accomplishments but not try to destroy them personally.

Word.

7 posted on 01/05/2012 11:30:42 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Jim Robinson

I think that is where I am settling as well.


8 posted on 01/05/2012 11:30:48 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Jim Robinson

Romney’s positions and that of Newt’s are pretty well known.

One has acted them out and the other has not.

One is opportunist for the purpose of advancement, the other is a serious intellect and strategist whose performance in the past I very much agreed with.

In fact, I had to educate our new local host his 2nd day on the air. He made the unfortunate mistake of Praising Bill Clinton for Welfare Reform, the Balanced Budget and lowered taxes through capital gains tax cut.

Brian Sussman made an unfortunate mistake of trying to give Clinton credit on the one hand while demonstrating his errors on the other.

I called in and thanked him for deciding to become a full time talk jock but I wanted to correct his view about Clintons legacy. Not to be contrarian or take away from him or Bill Clinton but they were just plain wrong and I asked I might quickly demonstrate why Clinton deserved zero Credit and when I am through who really should get the credit, without insulting anyone.

So I quickly went through them:

Contract with America, who wrote it? Newt Gingrich was his reply.

That is correct.

Now to clear the record I’ll go through them in the order I think is most powerful:

Capital Gains tax cut-
Was thought of as a response to Clintons raising of taxes and as a tool to keep the investment community well, inevesting and spurring additional investment. That was a Contract with America initiative and a well thought out position by Newt.

There was some horse trading and Newt gave away something no one really cared about to get it and the economy kept going with the result being unemployment dropping from 7% to 4% in a few short years.

The host immediately got the idea, said he would probably rephrase his thought at the end and asked me to continue.

Balanced Budget -
Again, Newt gave Clinton some bases that were already on the secondary list, devised by Dick Cheney, as alternatives for closure. Clinton got a win for his anti-military wing, we gave away something we didn’t care about and got what we wanted.

Welfare Reform -
this was the end goal all along and with a new Republican majority Congress it easily passed the House only to have Clinton veto it.

No problem. The President has the bully pulpit but was embroiled in a few distractions at the time which made it possible for Newt, Dole and few others to take their case directly to the American people who were sick of welfare queens.

Clinton was made aware the American people and the Houses were very much in the majority and very excited about reforming welfare. Still, he vetoed it again and then tried to make the argument he was going to co-opt the argument and reshape welfare reform as he saw fit.

It became very apparent the American taxpayer had, had enough and so had the houses. The pressure became to much and Clinton relented with nary a change to the original welfare reform act.

While he took credit for welfare reform it was never his idea, never became a priority until politically forced.

This was a Newt idea and part of the Contract with America which he shepherded.

Mitt has done nothing like this and I can trust Newt to follow through on his positions.

Still, I am in the Bachman(was), Santorum or Perry Camp. They just need to catch and if they cant’ then I am with Newt, all....the ...way.

Welfare Reform, the Balanced Budget and lowered taxes through capital gains tax cut.

Who has a record like that?

Who can perform like that?


9 posted on 01/05/2012 11:31:24 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree with all you say, except Romney is still quite a bit better than Obama.


10 posted on 01/05/2012 11:31:24 AM PST by freedomrings69
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To: Jim Robinson

Well said. We conservatives don’t have to worry about the liberals taking us out, we will take ourselves out.


11 posted on 01/05/2012 11:32:27 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m sticking with Gingrich to the end. He’s the only one with the political experience, the longevity, and knowledge of the system to route out, and squash all the Leftist bug larvae infesting the corpse that is what’s left of our government today.

Renew America while we still have some of it.


12 posted on 01/05/2012 11:34:35 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Gingrich - Santorum 2012.”

That ticket if formed before the South Carolina primary would win the SC primary and Super Tuesday. But I don’t think Gingrich will make the offer and if offered Santorum will not accept...especially if he is running ahead of Newt in NH.


13 posted on 01/05/2012 11:35:03 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well said, Jim.

}:-)4


14 posted on 01/05/2012 11:36:20 AM PST by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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To: DJ MacWoW
At this rate all the liberals, Republican elites and progressives have to do is sit back and watch the cat fight.

A friend of mine was saying last week that he imagines the Obama reelection campaign staff getting up early every morning, reading the papers about the Republican primary battles, smiling and going back to bed.

15 posted on 01/05/2012 11:37:17 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Jim Robinson
I'd suggest that we all stop trying to tear down the other conservative candidates in the race and instead concentrate on trying to build up our own personal favorites.

Absolutely. I've said that several times here. Every time we attack a fellow conservative, we're doing the work of the Obama 2012 campaign. Some of the rants here look like they could have come from DUmmies instead of FReepers. I cringe every time I see someone posting an article from some leftie blog that shoots more arrows at Republicans. So I agree that "Here's why my candidate is better" is far superior to "Here's why your candidate sucks."

16 posted on 01/05/2012 11:37:17 AM PST by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: Jim Robinson

You said it, in a nutshell.


17 posted on 01/05/2012 11:37:45 AM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: Jim Robinson
I like Santorum but it’s gonna take a Newt Gingrich to roll everything back pre FDR.

If we can just get Newt in then the only way that he could be prevented from restoring a constitutional republic is impeachment...he has already indicated he will not be constrained by the courts.

At this late date we require a pissed-off bull in the china shop to fix this mess. I can see no other avenue of escape. Can you?


18 posted on 01/05/2012 11:37:56 AM PST by Bobalu (We cannot afford to bring Mittens to a Newt-fight.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Master Po and Grasshopper;)


19 posted on 01/05/2012 11:38:17 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason..)
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To: freedomrings69

Sorry, I will not vote for an abortionist and statist author/advocate of ObamaCare-RomneyCare. Period.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7OQoBxZZPqU

Anyone who can support Romney is not a like-minded pro-life conservative and is more than welcome to post elsewhere.

I’ve drawn my line in the sand. NO ROMNEY ON FR!!!

He’s no conservative. Not even close. He’s a lying liberal progressive/statist.


20 posted on 01/05/2012 11:39:32 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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