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The Fear and Self-loathing of Liberals
01/02/2012 | Me

Posted on 01/01/2012 11:49:29 PM PST by Crucial

I've often pondered what makes a liberal, a liberal. They tend to do so much damage throughout history and are incredibly difficult to defeat. Figuring out what makes them tick would seem to be priority number one. As I thought about it recently I came to a revelation that others have discovered but never fleshed out to my satisfaction. That revelation is that liberals fear and loathe their own humanity. Liberals loathe their own humanity because well, being human means being naturally flawed or seemingly so. I personally think that if we weren't flawed there wouldn't be any real challenges in life in exceling beyond our limitations.

Liberals apparently can't handle these innate flaws that come with being human and deep down that hurts their pride. They are mortified when they look inward, when they feel racially insecure, or think a sexist thought or feel a need to be greedy. They loathe themselves because of these all too human feelings and because of their shame they feel they must stamp them out and control them in others. They have to feel like they are above their human emotions so they can feel worthy of praise. Liberals fear being judged on their natural feelings.

Liberals don't understand that regardless of the past, that they are no better than their ancestors deep down, that controlling ones negative tendencies gives one character and strength. Ignoring that we are flawed and taking away others' choice to control their own bad behavior leads to a society that lacks self-control and builds resentment and actually encourages bad behavior.

This bad behavior originates because of this lack of self-control and because the aura of "holy purpose" liberals give to their crusades. One need only accuse someone of not being a convert the the liberals' "religion" of political correctness and you risk ostricism in various spheres of life. And so the free-thinking man or woman, where all innovation springs is handcuffed and gagged. Scientific and economic advancement stagnate as a result.

This need to control and regulate, however, leads to a type of totalitarianism that more cynical people would harness to enrich themselves in both wealth and power just for that purpose. Totalitarianism is begun by the well-meaning liberal and then they, being unsophisticated in human nature because they won't look inward, are then manipulated by the more cynical and ambitious among us. This is how freedom ends. I think it's happening now.


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To: danielmryan

Interesting points. Agree with your description of their disdain for those “below” them.

This is to some extent disguised by the constant yammering about being for “the little guy” and even more by their “antiracism.” However, their true contempt comes through in their openly hostile attitude towards the bitterly clinging trailer park white trash. They do, of course, feel at least the same contempt for their non-white inferiors. They just can’t admit it, even to themselves.

I take exception to the original poster with regard to liberals hating themselves. It is true that liberals invariably hate white people, Americans and western civilization. Since liberals are part of all these groups, thhis is is often inaccurately considered self-loathing.

Nothing could be farther from the truth. Liberals excuse themselves from their denunciation of these groups. Their very opposition excludes them from these groups (in their minds) and absolves them from their sins.

In all world history there has never been a group that is so removed from self-loathing. Liberals adore themselves.


21 posted on 01/02/2012 4:38:13 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: ThunderSleeps
Probably due to that self-serving attitude "Things will be different now, we're so much smarter/evolved than they were..."

Good point which I think is the root cause for Libs to double-down on programs or ideas that don't work, the rationale being we didn't do enough of it (spending for instance)and that's why it failed, instead of it was based on previous fallacies from the get go.

22 posted on 01/02/2012 4:42:56 AM PST by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: All

Liberals are sick unto death because they are atheists. They deny the only medicine that can heal their sin sick souls.


23 posted on 01/02/2012 4:44:11 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The day liberals grow up is the day tyranny ends.)
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To: Crucial

I’m not so sure I agree with some of your thoughts. Liberal guilt has been a topic for a long time. However, Liberals don’t behave as if they have any guilt. For them, others are guilty, not them. They seem to think their own awareness of previous wrongs in the history of the world or of America exonerates them from any guilt. Much of what they’re aware of though is in no way the fault of anyone living today. They seem to think their espousal of a big government nanny state removes from them any personal need to help others or to do good. They do believe in collective guilt for white males who are not Liberal.


24 posted on 01/02/2012 4:51:27 AM PST by elhombrelibre ("I'd rather be ruled by the Tea Party than the Democratic Party." Norman Podhoretz)
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To: Cowboy Bob

100% agree.


25 posted on 01/02/2012 5:08:12 AM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Crucial

HERITAGE FOUNDATION: "How Modern Liberals Think"

Long, but tells it all.

26 posted on 01/02/2012 5:20:48 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Crucial
"Totalitarianism is begun by the well-meaning liberal and then they, being unsophisticated in human nature because they won't look inward, are then manipulated by the more cynical and ambitious among us."

You buried your lead...

27 posted on 01/02/2012 5:23:09 AM PST by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: Sherman Logan; Crucial

Sherman, the self-loathing is valid, because even though “in their minds” they absolve themselves, they truly do NOT experience absolution. Being forgiven is an intellectual construct, a rationalization, a fantasy they clutch tightly to their breasts in order to sleep at night.

Their lives are a testament to the futility of fleeing the boogieman of guilt (sans Jesus) because what “appears” externally are compensating behaviors ONLY.

That is why they can observe failure...say the slums of Detroit...and continue with the same destructive policies everywhere they go.
That is why they lie with such sincerity;
they BELIEVE two equally FALSE, and polar OPPOSITE self images.
Their belief in two opposite FALSE self images explains why they have no “CORE”.

When a lib is unpeeled, unmasked...over 90% of the time you get rage...

the “how dare you!” juvenile retreat so common to the history of liberal unmasking.

As a man thinketh....

Liberals’ contempt arises from within themselves.

The best way...well, my FAVORITE way to deal with them is through RIDICULE.
They really can’t stand that.
Other than abandonment - having nothing to do with them, cutting off their Narcissistic “supply”, ridicule
is cool.
Cheers!


28 posted on 01/02/2012 5:45:03 AM PST by spankalib (The Marx-in-the-Parks crowd is a basement skunkworks operation of the AFL-CIO)
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To: Crucial

My theory on liberalism.

We are mammals.

Mammals are geneticly programmed to acquire territory, and protect it.

Territory includes land, from which subsistence derives, and money, from which all other needs, physical, social, and psychological, are satisfied.

Only human mammals are capable of envy. Capitalism has no place for envy. Capitalism provides a framework in which all other human failings (like greed) are neutralized, subsumed, and harnessed for the good of the society as a whole. Envy mucks up the system.

Private property becomes anathema to the mental well-being of those who succumb to envy. Those who succumb to envy develop a warped psychological relationship to territory and wealth. Thus for liberals no psychological fulfillment can be achieved by acquiring territory and wealth, in the ways with which capitalism provides them.

The first inclination of liberals then, is to eschew private property, but only that private property which is acquired by the individual efforts of others. For liberals there is no dirty money. What’s yours is theirs, and how they acquire it from you has no psychological downside.

A human being consumed and controlled by envy cannot relate properly to territory or wealth.

A conservative, having seen the need to control his penchant for envy, cannot derive psychological fulfillment from winning the lottery, only wealth acquired from his own individual efforts can be fulfilling. Not so with liberals.

Liberals, consumed and controlled by their own envy of others’ possessions, cannot function properly in a capitalist order. For them, creating wealth becomes a waste of time, distributing it becomes the psychological and organizational imperative.

They have always been with us, and will always be with us. They desire territory and wealth, but derive no satisfaction from the ways in which the rest of us acquire it.

Since they see no need for private property, protecting it is something liberals refuse to participate in. Even theirs.

For wealthy liberals, especially theirs.

Again, people who cannot control their own envy cannot function in a capitalist order. People who cannot control their own envy will always be with us, mucking up the only system in history that harnesses, and to a certain extent, makes good use of all of our other darker impulses.


29 posted on 01/02/2012 5:48:25 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Crucial

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/09/26/obama-heroic-fantasy/

discussion:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2784468/posts?page=1


30 posted on 01/02/2012 5:53:27 AM PST by spankalib (The Marx-in-the-Parks crowd is a basement skunkworks operation of the AFL-CIO)
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To: spankalib

I’m afraid we disagree.

The liberals I have known are pretty much without exception confident in their own minds that they constitute what Thomas Sowell calls “The Anointed.” They truly believe in their hearts that they are the pinnacle of human achievement and aspiration.

I am constantly amused by their belief in what they call multi-culturalism, when in actual fact they are one of the most mono-cultural cultures ever.

They define themselves by their opposition to traditional western, American and middle-class values. Therefore they assume that all other groups that are also in opposition are JUST LIKE THEM. This is why they can so easily support Islamists and other groups so utterly opposed to what they claim to believe in. Their belief system is based not on belief in something, but rather on opposition to people like you and me.

I find the term “people of color” to be amazingly informative in this regard. To liberal minds the only important thing about this group is that they are “not white.” When you think about it, this is truly insulting to the members of the coalition it claims to describe. But since their own primary sense of membership comes from NOT being part of something, they cheerfully and unconciously project that same attitude onto the rest of the world’s population.


31 posted on 01/02/2012 5:56:19 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Crucial

Good points, but I’ll restate what I’ve said before:

Liberals are the most religious, self-righteous, sectarian, hypocritical beings on earth:

Liberalism is a religion, as Ann Coulter has pointed out, all based on being able to feel good about one’s beliefs; all man-made religions are just about making one feel good about oneself.

Liberals are self-righteous and look down on others more than any other religion - their beliefs make them better than others because they want to help others (supposedly);

Liberals are sectarian because their religion is the only religion and they reject all others;

Liberals are the biggest hypocrites because while they proclaim their motives are purely to help the poor, downtrodden and helpless, they rarely do anything from their own pockets to demonstrate this like almost all conservatives do. Their religion allows them to feel good about themselves while living and doing evil things....


32 posted on 01/02/2012 5:56:43 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: Crucial

Need you ask anything else?

33 posted on 01/02/2012 6:07:15 AM PST by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons!)
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To: spankalib

IMO, Lincoln nailed the liberal attitude of compulsion to “fix” things in his Lyceum Address of 1838.

http://www.civil-war.net/pages/lyceum_address.asp

Long but highly prophetic, IMO.

Maintaining and upholding the existing system is just so BORING. Liberals like to think of themselves as world-historic figures. They aren’t of towering genius, and aren’t normally wildly ambitious for their own glory, as Lincoln describes. They aren’t Caesars or Alexanders.

But they have much the same desire to “change the world” as a group.

I find it very enlightening that “change” is so often their slogan. They don’t much care what that change is, or whether it makes things better. Only that it occurs, that they are involved, and they thereby assuage their own desire to be important.


34 posted on 01/02/2012 6:10:08 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

That’s fine, we can discuss disagreements :)

“The Anointed.”...is the other FALSE self-image that is the opposite of their self-loathing.
It is a construct, a mask, a persona they put on.
Haughty
Arrogant
No empathy

The energy with which they desperately cling to their holier-than-thou image
IN THE FACE OF REALITY (crumbling lives, families, cities, country, culture) is the “tell”.

Ask yourself; ARE THEY holier-than-thou?
NO. They just BELIEVE IT.
Are they “The Anointed.”?
NO. They just believe it.

They are compelled to believe it
(and I mean it in the sense of psychopathic “compulsion”)
because the alternative;
facing what they truly are,
is INTOLERABLE to their shallow psyches.

Believing something does not a reality make.


35 posted on 01/02/2012 6:15:10 AM PST by spankalib (The Marx-in-the-Parks crowd is a basement skunkworks operation of the AFL-CIO)
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To: Crucial

The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness: http://www.libertymind.com/index.php?page_id=257


36 posted on 01/02/2012 6:21:17 AM PST by vietvet67
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To: Chunga

Liberals simply believe that man is not capable of self rule, therefore they must empower a government to rule them and protect them from man’s shortfalls. This belief is an admission that they know that they are the weakest of society and that they are to lazy to better themselves. My wish is that they would be willing to live with one of their key philosophies that they insist on shoving down everyone’s throats....Darwinism.


37 posted on 01/02/2012 6:24:24 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Sherman Logan

PS
I mean to make you chuckle with this side comment...

...but the fact that you (or anyone) has difficulty wrapping their minds around psychopathic liberal thinking speaks well

of YOU!

(you can’t argue - or really fully understand - “crazy”)


38 posted on 01/02/2012 6:25:16 AM PST by spankalib (The Marx-in-the-Parks crowd is a basement skunkworks operation of the AFL-CIO)
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To: CSM

Your whole post is great, and I wish the same thing you do...that THEY’D have to live with the results of their policies!

“Liberals simply believe that man is not capable of self rule”

And why is that?
Simply because they cannot rule themselves.


39 posted on 01/02/2012 6:28:19 AM PST by spankalib (The Marx-in-the-Parks crowd is a basement skunkworks operation of the AFL-CIO)
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To: Crucial

I argue that the left’s banner upon which they claim legitimacy—that they are compassionate—is false. So the key is to understand that the foundation upon which they stand is incorrect. Our thesis is that voluntarily administered charity is moral. But the forced redistribution of wealth by the heavy hand of the state is theft; it also institutionalizes indolence and poverty—and is thereby immoral. Biblically ordered liberty is moral. But progressivism, socialism, social democracy, national socialism, liberalism, communism, neo-marxism, state capitalism, leftism, regulationism, Islam (and all other forms of aggressive utopian statism) are forms of tyranny—which is immoral. Christian capitalism leads to the most economic benefits for society. But statism is inherently inefficient, produces little, takes resources from the productive economy, and is therefore detrimental to growth and the welfare of its people. Liberal thought is often opposed to objective moral values, to a moral authority above themselves, and thus to unalienable rights from God. It is demonstrably true that little is sacred with liberalism outside of one’s personal subjective feelings or political power—not the Bible, not the Constitution, not the Rule of Law, not natural law, nor even life itself. Thus liberalism is the least likely system to honor the inherent worth of the individual—and the most likely to harm the most vulnerable in society such as the expendable elderly and the innocent unborn. So ironically, liberalism is not compassionate.


40 posted on 01/02/2012 6:38:36 AM PST by grumpa
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