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Angry former ATF chief blames subordinates for Fast and Furious
Los Angeles Times ^ | 12/24/11 | Richard A. Serrano

Posted on 12/25/2011 3:09:20 AM PST by AtlasStalled

In a confidential deposition with congressional investigators, the then-head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives blamed agents, field supervisors and even his top command for never advising him that for more than a year, his agency allowed illegal gun sales along the southwestern U.S. border. * * * Once Fast and Furious broke into public view, Melson said, Justice officials strenuously objected when he wanted to disclose everything to Congress. "We were floating the idea and asking them to allow us to do that," he said. But he said he was told "it is a long-standing policy of the Department of Justice that we don't talk about ongoing cases."

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; melson; obama
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To: AtlasStalled

Ahhh the old Nixon defense.

LLS


21 posted on 12/25/2011 5:45:21 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: WKUHilltopper

“Justice officials strenuously objected when he wanted to disclose everything to Congress.”

Yes, nobody wants to go to prison.


22 posted on 12/25/2011 5:46:30 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Castigar
holder screwed the pooch under oath... we just need a big pair of testicles in DC to impeach. Mark Levin as head of justice would prosecute everyone including obama and moochelle. There is hope... even after the next election... depends on whether we elect a Patriot or a pair of "depends"

LLS

23 posted on 12/25/2011 5:48:38 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

ping!


24 posted on 12/25/2011 5:52:47 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Pointing out that the ATF has had five acting directors in the last six years,

Why five years????

A list of recent ATF directors:

1970–1978 Rex D. Davis (b. 1924 – d. 2008)[8]

1979–1982 G.R. Dickerson

1982–1993 Stephen Higgins (b. 1938)

1993–1999 John Magaw (b. 1935)

1999–2004 Bradley A. Buckles (b. 1949)

2004–Edgar A. Domenech (1st time—acting)

2004–2006 Carl Truscott (b. 1957)

2006 Edgar A. Domenech (2nd time—acting)

2006–2009 Michael Sullivan (acting)

2009 Ronald "Ronnie" A. Carter (acting)

2009–2011 Kenneth E. Melson (acting)

2011–present B. Todd Jones (acting)

25 posted on 12/25/2011 6:03:42 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: sr4402
"how about having "Media that Doesn't Suck".

That show would last all of 30 seconds.

26 posted on 12/25/2011 6:04:36 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: PGalt
and that was before my second cup of coffee...{;^)
27 posted on 12/25/2011 6:16:02 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: AtlasStalled

Abolish the A.T.F.


28 posted on 12/25/2011 6:41:32 AM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: AtlasStalled

Melson knew. We know it, and he knows it. He was warned about playing these games and his head is going on the chopping block with the rest of the traitors.

Len told you something like this would happen Melson. Issa has the proof that you knew. Lying isn’t going to help you at all.


29 posted on 12/25/2011 6:48:58 AM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: norwaypinesavage
"how about having "Media that Doesn't Suck". That show would last all of 30 seconds.

Media that Doesn't suck would make a ton of Money. As a matter of fact, TV that doesn't suck would be great as well.

But the powers that be want it to Suck, be Preachy and Boring.

30 posted on 12/25/2011 6:59:01 AM PST by sr4402
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To: Texas Fossil
More lies trying to cover for the “Won”’s involvement.

The "WON" has his fingerprints and DNA all over this one. No one in any branch of government would have authorized this sort of operation without approval from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.Even Holder isn't that brave.

31 posted on 12/25/2011 7:02:20 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: AtlasStalled

Because that is how every organization works, the lowest guys on the ladder run things/s

They may as well come out and say don’t believe your lying eyes.


32 posted on 12/25/2011 7:07:33 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: AtlasStalled
ATF quote" "We need a bigger boat bus"

By the time GW and FnF scandals are over they are going to need one huge dang bus to fit everyone under thats going to take the fall for Obama/Holder.

33 posted on 12/25/2011 7:12:09 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: AtlasStalled
I don't believe Melson at all. He knew all about it. This started at the top with Obama.

BATF Head Melson Implicates DOJ In Surprise July 4th Testimony

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/07/batf_head_melson_implicates_doj_in_surprise_july_4th_testimony.html

BATF head Melman was placed in a particularly bad light by the earlier testimony of agents, some of whom depicted him watching the illegal gun deals go down on closed circuit TV and literally rubbing his hands with glee. Melman, a temporary appointee, was set up to fall on his sword for Fast and Furious and was apparently under a great deal of pressure from the Obama Administration to 'resign'. Instead, he resisted and said he wanted to testify before the investigative committee, but in order to do that, he needed clearance from the Department of Justice.

34 posted on 12/25/2011 7:13:15 AM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: AtlasStalled
If it took a special prosecutor to investigate the Joe and Valerie Wilson allegations of wrong doing it sure as hell needs one to sort out this one... Why is there no hue and cry for such an action?
35 posted on 12/25/2011 7:19:05 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: AtlasStalled
Blame it on the janitors. They were probably writing notes and e-mails at night sending guns across the border.

Might’v been the cafeteria help too or the guys in the mail room, somebody, anybody but the head man, Sgt. Schultz.

36 posted on 12/25/2011 7:34:41 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: AtlasStalled


37 posted on 12/25/2011 7:37:07 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Don Corleone

exactly correct.


38 posted on 12/25/2011 8:45:48 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: AtlasStalled

Did he not get the memo it was Bush’s fault?


39 posted on 12/25/2011 8:47:42 AM PST by depressed in 06 ( Where is the 1984 Apple Super Bowl ad when we need it?)
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40 posted on 12/25/2011 9:04:54 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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