Newt leads nationally but what does it matter?
Yes. That is the headline PPP crafted for it's own poll.
1 posted on
12/20/2011 9:41:19 AM PST by
TBBT
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To: TBBT
Kind of curious.
Have you ever posted anything other than pro Newt or anti everyone else postings?
2 posted on
12/20/2011 9:43:19 AM PST by
cripplecreek
(Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
To: TBBT
National polls don’t matter a bit. Ask Rudy Giuliani.
The primary and caucus winners get a boost, and then the next state to vote can either confirm or repudiate the result.
Iowa and NH often disagree, and then SC decides between the two, or occasionally goes in another direction, and keeps one more candidate alive.
Super Tuesday then accelerates things.
This year, Nevada and Florida will also vote before Super Tuesday, so we could see three different winners among all of the early states.
To: TBBT
Many PPP election polls were commissioned by the liberal website Dailykos, although the company states that most of its revenue comes from other sources.
4 posted on
12/20/2011 9:46:20 AM PST by
jessduntno
(The Republican elite hates him, Rove hates him, Boehner hates him, liberals hate him. It's Newt!)
To: TBBT
Newt is doing well, all considered. He is taking the punches from the radical lefitst media, and dealing it back at the right time too. IMHO, he is the ONLY front-runner that can dish it out, and is not afraid to.
The complicit media, along with the DemoRat socialist party, is used to handing it out in their favor, but is not used to getting back in their faces. Frankly, I hope Newt takes the nomination and gives it to them full force. Along with taking on Obama, toe-to-toe and showing him for who and what he is.
Certainly Romney will not do it. He will pander and cower under the Obama-media machine. And he is not a conservative, even though he says he is -— RomneyCare anyone?
Go Newt!
5 posted on
12/20/2011 9:47:11 AM PST by
EagleUSA
To: TBBT
Before even a single vote is cast, what do any polls mean? Fodder for the pundits and talking heads, mostly.
6 posted on
12/20/2011 9:47:15 AM PST by
bigbob
To: TBBT
Will the term “outlier” now find it’s way into the daily reporting?
Will this confuse the narrative that Newt is in a free fall?
7 posted on
12/20/2011 9:50:21 AM PST by
TBBT
To: TBBT
Romney has been stuck at 25% or less in every poll taken since the day he was born, no matter how hard they try to ram him down our throats.
It continues to baffle the inside-the-Beltway intelligentsia.
We’re just not that into their boy Mitty.
9 posted on
12/20/2011 9:50:41 AM PST by
Yankee
(ANNOY THE RNC: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
To: TBBT
IA = Newt top two
NH = Newt top two
SC = Newt 1st
FL = Newt 1st
To: TBBT
IA = Newt top two
NH = Newt top two
SC = Newt 1st
FL = Newt 1st
To: TBBT
Only PPP can make a 35 point lead seem like a bad thing.
(Their Iowa Propaganda campaign thingie ain’t workin’ out for them.)
15 posted on
12/20/2011 10:05:05 AM PST by
PSYCHO-FREEP
(If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
To: TBBT
Nancy flashed Her Depends
At Newtie
He's been at ends
Since he saw
Her booty
16 posted on
12/20/2011 10:05:31 AM PST by
Iron Munro
("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
To: TBBT
Oops..sorry for the double.
To: TBBT
Lookin' at millions under a circus tent Watchin' a jackass chase a dumb pachyderm
Oh what a show!
- "Rise Up", Jeremy Hoop
18 posted on
12/20/2011 10:13:33 AM PST by
FlingWingFlyer
(Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
To: TBBT
To: TBBT
Simple, Iowa will go to Paul and show their irrelevance. Oh, the insider money that’s being wasted.
25 posted on
12/20/2011 10:36:08 AM PST by
Steamburg
(The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
The question should be:
“Iowa Caucus, what does it matter?”
It’s meaningless. It should be ignored.
26 posted on
12/20/2011 10:44:33 AM PST by
D-fendr
(Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
To: TBBT
This is a problem for Gingrich. The game is to outperform expectations in the early primaries and build on that as others drop out. Candidates who poll well nationally often lose support to the early performers and never make it to those states where they are polling well (early).
Gingrich will have to lower expectations in Iowa and NH or a 3rd place finish could start the slide.
27 posted on
12/20/2011 10:47:55 AM PST by
Tallguy
(It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
To: TBBT
It doesn'ty matter at all. National polls in primary season are meaningless. Even worse when conducted by a polling agency that is practically an arm of the DNC and would be only too happy to sow some confusion, fear and frustration among GOP voters.
The entire political landscape will change following the Iowa caucuses. Not counting Ron Paul, whoever comes in first and second, (or second and third if Paul comes in 1st, or 1st and 3rd if Paul comes in 2nd, etc) will be catapulted to the top in the next round of national polls...at least until NH!
28 posted on
12/20/2011 10:51:43 AM PST by
pgkdan
("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
To: TBBT
Newt is not conservative. He is a LIBERAL. Look at his voting record.
I know he did a good thing once, in getting a balanced budget. How long did he last?
29 posted on
12/20/2011 11:17:21 AM PST by
geologist
(The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
To: TBBT; bigbob; CainConservative; D-fendr; Dogbert41; EagleUSA; FlingWingFlyer; geologist; ...
As we get closer and closer to IOWA, most of these polls are turning to sh*t-push polls. I think PPP is the most accurate. Note the CBS poll has a whopping 36% undecided, so it is trash. Note the ABC poll keeps secret how many people they counted, so it is trash. I will assume they asked 100 people for weighting purposes.
Note the CNN poll says "436 A" and just like the last several CNN polls, it is as strongly biased toward Romney as it could possibly be without many people screaming 'bullsh*t'.
And I won't count the Gallup poll again until they come to a full set of 5 days in a row that include totally new data, which will be Dec 17th-21st. ...oh, and PS: Gallup has gotten VERY secretive about the internals of their poll, which is another sign it is fudge.
So then PPP poll (which HAS seemed quite accurate for several months) and has the largest sample size, AND it uses Likely Voters, is probably close to correct. But Karl Rove will call it an "outlier" on Fox n Friends.
Note who has been doing the loudest bad-mouthing lately, (Romney, Perry, and Bachmann) and the directions their weighted rolling averages have turned.
IMO, Gingrich never REALLY dipped as close to Willard as this chart would imply, but the lyin' MSM polls made it look that way.
. with new PPP, CNN, ABC, and CBS polls added ...
Gingrich=29.6% Romney=23.9% Paul=11.9% Bachmann=6.7% Perry=6.3% Santorum=3.8% Huntsman=2.3%
[...it may be that this chart has grown beyond the capabilities of FR's posting??? If so, see my profile page for the chart.]
(Example methodology for this chart will be on my profile page)
Much like what the government does with unemployment statistics, this chart represents a 4-poll "rolling average" for the latest 20+ polls listed at RealClearPolitics.com (plus other recent national polls). I also weighted the polls by their size. For example, a poll with a survey size of 1000 was weighted proportionately heavier than an 324 survey size.
(Gingrich-haters, please do not address or reply to me.) |
34 posted on
12/21/2011 2:30:46 AM PST by
Future Useless Eater
(Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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