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A Financial Dunkirk: Britain Draws up Plans to Rescue Expats if Spain and Portugal...
UK Daily Mail ^ | Sunday, December 18, 2011 | Wil Longbottom

Posted on 12/18/2011 6:21:15 PM PST by kristinn

......are Hit by Financial Oblivion

Evacuation plans for British expats stranded in Spain and Portugal if their banking systems collapse are being drawn up by the Foreign Office.

The contingency plans are being put in place to help thousands of Britons if they were unable to get to their money in the event of a catastrophic banking collapse in two of the most vulnerable eurozone economies.

Around one million British expats live in Spain, particularly around Marbella and Malaga, and some 50,000 in Portugal.

The Foreign Office is concerned that those who have invested savings in their adopted countries would face losing their homes if banks called in loans and they were unable to access money.

Last week ratings agency Standard & Poor's downgraded 10 Spanish banks, including Banco Popular.

Among options being considered for a 'nightmare scenario' include sending planes, ships and coaches to evacuate expats - some through Gibraltar.

Small loans could also be made available to stranded Britons and pressure would be exerted on the Spanish and Portuguese governments to allow access to funds to pay for everyday essentials.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: cesspools; cultural; economy; euro; iberian
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Remain calm. All is well.
1 posted on 12/18/2011 6:21:22 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn
So, Spain has, in addition to a million Moslems, a million Brits.

All I can say is they are really losing it ~ have to ask yourself WHO WON THE WAR.

2 posted on 12/18/2011 6:30:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: kristinn
I always wonder about expats putting all their eggs in one basket, particularly a foreign one. Why not hedge their bets and keep it half and half? Or better yet, keep their money HOME and draw from it when needed. With today's communications that's not difficult.

They are asking for trouble by doing that...and probably the Spanish and Portuguese banks offer high interest to lure them into thinking the banks there are safe.

Tsk. What can the British government do? They can't refund them the money they lost there.

3 posted on 12/18/2011 6:30:44 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: muawiyah

The last Socialist government of Spain brought in millions of foreigners - mostly Muslims and Romanians.


4 posted on 12/18/2011 6:33:01 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: kristinn

Maybe if Spain collapses it would be easier and cheaper to announce those million expats on their own.

/sarcasm


5 posted on 12/18/2011 6:35:46 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: kristinn
Well, really, it isn't. The Brits are getting ready for a European financial collapse. The UK government expects, at least, Greece, Portugal and Spain to experience bank runs and closures. They are getting their banks, their financial systems, and their people ready for that eventuality.

Well, I guess there are a few firewalls to burn through before it gets to us, it will take a couple of years, but it will get hot here.

6 posted on 12/18/2011 6:38:23 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
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To: kristinn

Maybe if Britain collapses, they will realize how truly insignificant to the world they are (ducks).


7 posted on 12/18/2011 6:38:37 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: cloudmountain
No excuse for bad decisions, but keep in mind that Britons retired now spent much of their lives in a UK that itself was financially dicey. What standard-of-comparison did they have for moving their assets to Spain?

Also, the UK tax code gives folks a powerful incentive to spend as much time offshore as possible.

8 posted on 12/18/2011 6:40:25 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: kristinn

The EU was a stupid experiment, doomed to fail from the start.


9 posted on 12/18/2011 6:42:16 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
"Well, I guess there are a few firewalls to burn through before it gets to us, it will take a couple of years, but it will get hot here."

It could 'happen' here in a day. All it would take is the Bond market looking for higher returns. If rates go up, we are in SERIOUS trouble with the amount of debt we need to give away 'free shit' to the deadbeats.

10 posted on 12/18/2011 6:45:14 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: kristinn

If the UK is doing a financial Dunkirk, can the US have a political Mulligan? Please?


11 posted on 12/18/2011 6:47:53 PM PST by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Either way, it apparently is not a bad idea to own your own property free and clear.


12 posted on 12/18/2011 6:49:40 PM PST by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Well, I guess there are a few firewalls to burn through before it gets to us, it will take a couple of yearsHOURS, but it will get hot here

If Europe collapses it will chain react to our banks as soon as the opening of trading the next day.
13 posted on 12/18/2011 6:50:21 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: kristinn

Attentions will turn to our US debt again next year, and next year comes very quickly.


14 posted on 12/18/2011 6:50:39 PM PST by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: kristinn

Something similar is going on here. California has declared millions of State employees millionaires, even though the state does not have the money. A 100K pension makes you a millionaire.

So the state runs a deficit each year. They pass an artificial budget and revenues unexpectedly miss. Eventually the will look for the Feds to make them whole. States like Colorado for example, will then pay for these millionaires.

Fair eh?


15 posted on 12/18/2011 6:52:22 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: Clemenza

Maybe I can finally get a maid that isn’t a Mexican. I’d like one that dresses like they do at Buckingham Palace.


16 posted on 12/18/2011 7:01:03 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: MSF BU
True. But...in Spain, local governments have started declaring land titles/building permits, etc., void when it suits them.

It pays to own property free and clear in a place where property rights are established and stable.

17 posted on 12/18/2011 7:07:58 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Interesting, I didn’t know that. I have experience in Portugal where the expats seemed to be very happy (at least in the Azores), but they were primarily Americans of Portuguese ancestry. So is this problem across the country or limited to certain areas?


18 posted on 12/18/2011 7:12:43 PM PST by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: NativeNewYorker
No excuse for bad decisions, but keep in mind that Britons retired now spent much of their lives in a UK that itself was financially dicey. What standard-of-comparison did they have for moving their assets to Spain?
Also, the UK tax code gives folks a powerful incentive to spend as much time offshore as possible.

Brits have been working and living overseas for HUNDREDS of years. They KNOW what the deal is. British banks have been around for HUNDREDS of years. Ignorance is no excuse for British expats...after all, they were smart enough to work overseas, buy a house overseas, retire overseas. What happened to all those smarts when it came to banking their HARD-EARNED money?

And, if they are so savvy about tax codes and spending time offshore, you'd THINK they might look into safeguarding their hard earned money better.

I knew too many British expats who weren't college educated (They were blue collar.) but they knew how to tend their money. They ALL KNEW that if a deal looked too good to be true....it WAS too good to be true. Much is just common sense about NOT falling for the con: 20% interest on your savings at our bank!! Year, right.

19 posted on 12/18/2011 7:20:57 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: MSF BU

I read about it in Spain only, starting about 2 years ago.


20 posted on 12/18/2011 7:21:03 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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