Posted on 12/12/2011 9:09:39 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
when you're talking about Glenn Beck now he actually, the other day, called you a progressive on FOX Business channel. What do you say to that sort of claim?"
Gingrich: "I don't know. It depends on what standard you're using, you know? The fact is I balanced the budget for four consecutive years. And we did so by cutting taxes and increasing employment so people went back to work, they left welfare, they left food stamps, they left unemployment, they left Medicaid. Who else has that record of achievement? I worked with Reagan in '79, '80. I worked with Reagan in defeating the Soviet Empire. I think those are relatively conservative credentials."
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The ACU is a RINO club.
They were created by Dole to bless RINOs, and that is exactly what they do.
This is our one chance to get a conservative in the White House. Yet we are already punting on first down.
>> “I agree that Newt effectively refuted Beck with his response.” <<
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Then you must admire Bill Clinton’s parsing of “is.”
Noot didn’t refute Beck, he effectively affirmed him by trying to side-step the question, and answer it with vague rhetorical questions.
Gingrich says he is ‘Wilsonian’?
“...Wilson’s two terms in office provide the clearest historical window into the soul of progressivism. Wilson’s racism, his ideological rigidity, and his antipathy toward the Constitution were all products of the progressive worldview. And since “progressivism” is suddenly in vogue – today’s leading Democrats proudly wear the label – it’s worth actually reviewing what progressivism was and what actually happened under the last full-throated progressive president.
The record should give sober pause to anyone who’s mesmerized by the progressive promise.
Wilson, like the bulk of progressive intellectuals in fin-de-siècle America, was deeply influenced by three strands of thought: philosophical Pragmatism, Hegelianism, and Darwinism. This heady intellectual cocktail produced a drunken arrogance and the conviction that the old rules no longer applied.”
http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2008/0205/p09s01-coop.html
I think I am right about that.
I'm not advocating banning anyone. I only mentioned that the anti-newts are not likely Romney-bots as they have been getting zotted. I just was questioning who the anti-Newts are supporting.
I’d say Gingrich, who is often subtle, was subtly suggesting that he, with his record as a Republican congressman and Speaker, has more solid conservative accomplishments than the media performer Glenn Beck. Beck could, however, counter that he’s had more success hawking survival food.
From Noot’s own fat mouth:
“I worked with Reagan in ‘79, ‘80. I worked with Reagan in defeating the Soviet Empire. I think those are relatively conservative credentials.”
I agree with most of what you say, but al Qaeda didn’t sprout from the bloody soil of the Lebanese civil war (Hezbollah, plenty nasty, did—and drove us thence). Al Qaeda grew out of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the mujahideen it drew from the Muslim world in general, and Saudi Arabia in particular, most notably Osama bin Laden.
While handing the Soviets a Vietnam of their own was a great cause, we could have been more discriminating when it came to selecting our allies. Some of these Islamic freaks, including al Qaeda and bin Laden, turned out to be worse than the Soviets.
Look, us “wierdos” tried to stop you “normal” folks 4 years ago from nominating another progressive republican. But people like you insisted he was the best choice and that he could handily beat Obama or Hillary without a problem.
Maybe heed our advice for once and nominate a real conservative ho can beat a freak in leftist democrat?
LLS
Dear Fool,
ACU was founded in 1964 by Bill Buckley.
Read your history before you try to post your “everyone is a RINO except me” BS.
The only ones who are supporting Newt right now are the people, including a majority of those who identify with the Tea Party. In 1980, we called them Reagan Democrats.
When Newt calls Obama a radical Alinskyite at his core, we get it. When Beck says the same thing, with all his charts, and arrows, it borders on neurosis.
I will go to war with Newt against what I consider the greatest threat to America's values in its rich history. But, right now we NEED government. Government is the ONLY hope, short of an armed revolution, to undo the damage of the past 4 years. We need somebody with a little brass , not a puppet of the Party Establishment. We needs somebody who is not afraid to speak what's on his mind and speak clearly and coherently to the people without a teleprompter on a wide range of issues, not only in 30 second sound bites.
It's a shame that a vigorous and outspoken Ronald Reagan is not around today to share his insight. 2012 is incredibly similar to 1980 in many ways. Newt understands this and is running a Reaganesque campaign...hitting the same broad themes upgraded for 21st century reality.
Someday you may rise to the level of “fool.” Presently you strive for worm or slug. You’ve absolutely no idea what the American experience is all about; you peek in from afar.
Buckley is the biggest RINO, snob, anti-America sellout there ever has been. He was worse than Rocke.
That said; by same standards of 'comments' one might imagine that Glenn Beck is a 'progressive' given his comments on Ron Paul - who himself; if one extrapolates his 'foreign policy and Military analysis; would put him 'further' Left; than the average Leftie. . .and so 'progressive'.
Words mean things; but depends on who is interpreting and from 'whatever 'data/context.
Deeds mean a great deal too; as does hindsight, for that matter. Of course and as well; is the the ability to recognize one's mistakes. . .and admit them. Learning from 'history' matters; and clearly Newt is not just a teacher; but a 'student' as well. All the better, IMHO; for being successful.
Certainly works better; than the 'status quo' MO, Romney and GOP are locked into. (Their latest mistake, imagining that it is better for Repubs to NOT be critical of - the one most deserving - Obama; lest we anger those who 'feel sorry' for him.
Now here is a great example of a group of people UNABLE to learn from past mistakes! And oh, how pathetic that is. . .the worst kind of Conservatism that has no imagination or ability to appreciate the best of a fresh and progressive mindset - progressive by it's best definition, of course.
You are so obviously a troll, and an unusually uninformed one that that.
First, Bill Buckley is generally known to have worked with Barry Goldwater to create the modern Conservative movement. George H. Nash, a historian of the modern American conservative movement, believed that Buckley was "arguably the most important public intellectual in the United States in the past half century... For an entire generation, he was the preeminent voice of American conservatism and its first great ecumenical figure."
Buckley's primary contribution to politics was a fusion of traditional American political conservatism with laissez-faire economic theory and anti-communism, laying groundwork for the new American conservatism of U.S. presidential candidates Barry Goldwater and President Ronald Reagan.
To show the depths of your lack of knowledge, unfortunately Mr. Buckley no longer "is" anything. He died 3 years ago.
You are so obviously a troll, and an unusually uninformed one that that.
First, Bill Buckley is generally known to have worked with Barry Goldwater to create the modern Conservative movement. George H. Nash, a historian of the modern American conservative movement, believed that Buckley was "arguably the most important public intellectual in the United States in the past half century... For an entire generation, he was the preeminent voice of American conservatism and its first great ecumenical figure."
Buckley's primary contribution to politics was a fusion of traditional American political conservatism with laissez-faire economic theory and anti-communism, laying groundwork for the new American conservatism of U.S. presidential candidates Barry Goldwater and President Ronald Reagan.
To show the depths of your lack of knowledge, unfortunately Mr. Buckley no longer "is" anything. He died 3 years ago.
American Conservatism has never needed creeps like Buckley.
Refusing to accept absurd lore as factual makes not a troll, but accepting it surely makes a fool.
The fight against communism was fought by Senator McCarthy, and Robert Welch. It was seriously encumbered by fools like Buckley. Its now dead thanks to his kind.
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